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Steve Jobs on 13-Inch MacBook Pro's Use of Intel Core 2 Duo Processors
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Did you check BMW engines lately? They are good. Did you check Apple CPUs lately? They suck! Did you check your analogies lately? They suck too!
Apple MBP 13":
Height: 0.95 inch
Width: 12.78 inches
Depth: 8.94 inches
Weight: 4.5 pounds
Sony Vaio Z:
Height: 1.0 inch
Width: 12.4 inches
Depth: 8.3 inches
Weight: 3.07 pounds
My Z fits in any MBP 13" sleeve with room to spare (in fact, a bit too much room...looking for a more form-fitting solution)
Just sayin'...
For those who want a portable game machine to run the new HITS, the Alienware M11x is a great choice !
For those who want a built in quality laptop, big battery life and play sometimes to old games, the MBP 13" is a great choice !
All is about your need
I would be embarassed to own either one... M11x has a horrible cpu and the screen is too small/sucks it's more a toy for the kids to play games on.
MBP 13" = a New refresh using old outdated technology, who would buy a new notebook today with c2d? and their excuse is they put a Geforce 320 in it? That is an equally pitiful graphics option they could have at least bumped it up to the 335 thats in the 11x if they wanted to market the laptop as a gaming machine. The MBP will fail at both gaming with its weak gpu and computing with its weak c2d.
I can't really see how anyone would buy either of these laptops unless they were horribly uninformed with current technology.
I literally lol'ed when I read his post. Guys like who equate sophistication with a computer brand must be a marketers dream.
Don't you worry because I'm sure your the same kind of guy that doesn't know the difference between a hand-stitched suit suit and one that is done by a machine which looks exactly the same. Or why a Corvette goes as fast as a Ferrari but the Ferrari costs 3x as much.
You're the guy ( or kid) who doesn't understand what quality is or craftmanship is. You look at specs. Oh yeah keep in mind I'm no Apple fanboy.
There are simply too many children in this forum.
I found this review to be a bit better. http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=5591&review=asus+U30JC+nvidia+optimus
I will say the screen on the Asus isn't as good as what you get on the MBP, or Vaio Z.
some of u where discussing about 1080p...
am i right if i assume that a 2010 13" macbook pro base model can play back a 1080p video file on a 24" external monitor without any problems?
am i right if i assume that a 2010 13" macbook pro base model can play back a 1080p video file on a 24" external monitor without any problems?
No way dude it's a scheming plan by the evil mastermind Steve Jobs. I can almost see him manically rubbing his hands together now as he looks with an evil grin outside his executive office in Cupertino.
I totally agree with you. People will do whatever they can to think there's some BS conspiracy. But whatever, as they say: "haters gonna hate."
Did you read the review? Do you actually want that computer? It's a great specs sheet contender, but does that actually pan out?.
Problems include it's thickness and weight (I guess I know how they wedged a discrete graphics card in there) and a terrible display (which not only negates the purpose of having a discrete graphics card, but is also probably where the cost savings come from). Oh, and they got a whopping 4 hours of battery life out of it. Yeah, good comparison.
at the end of the day, all these specs are fun and whatnot but which one of the non apple options runs OSX again? I mean even the Vaio ..its still windows...
While you're the guy who thinks he can buy sophistication. You're embarrassing yourself.
ya i mean
nobody is arguing that asus is cheap with their parts. it's more of an argument for having an i3 with discrete as an option for an i3. don't you think if the base macbook stayed the same and the upgrade one has an i3 and discrete, it would be worth the money?
When you want ten hours of battery life from your notebook computer, there are other decent C2D processors than the Extreme 3.33GHz.
You mean that kind of discuss?
It's 320m, which has been designed especially for Apple... And from what I've seen I thought it was from 40% to 80% faster over the 9400m
And from what i've read the sound is passable through the 320M video chip too...thus having MDP to HDMI output.
Vaio has a greater/easier chance of running OSX, but that another topic for another site
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310 m isn't superior to the 320m right?
Core i3 isn't superior to c2d?
Battery life is shorter?
Built in quality is poorer?
Definitively, i rather spend 200$ more for th mbp
Tell that to Sony and the others. Stop drinking the Kool Aid that Steve and Co tell you.
Most complains come form younger people that badly want a mac and only can afford the 13". Also they don't get that a C2D is more power than one need for the tasks on the go. Is it old tech? No, its reliable tech. Everyone who is in chip business knows that the late lots always outperform and easily reach highest yields what is necessary to undervolt the proc for less heat and some minutes more of battery. This 13 is for MOBILITY, not gaming. It gets even worse when I hear that a lot of the users here still think its the low entry level MBP.
And, hey kids, its not a gaming machine. JUST ACCEPT it. If I would like to play high end games I would not even consider a mac.
I want a reliable machine with as much battery life as possible. Don't forget the less long lasting battery in the bigger models. They also have bigger batteries with much more Wh. Guess what causes the gap of 2 hours? iX and the video card.
I like this little update on the 13" and I consider in upgrading my battery to the one if it is compatible to the 5,5.
And, hey kids, its not a gaming machine. JUST ACCEPT it. If I would like to play high end games I would not even consider a mac.
I want a reliable machine with as much battery life as possible. Don't forget the less long lasting battery in the bigger models. They also have bigger batteries with much more Wh. Guess what causes the gap of 2 hours? iX and the video card.
I like this little update on the 13" and I consider in upgrading my battery to the one if it is compatible to the 5,5.
In this case it would be the GT310m vs the 320m. The GT310m has 512-1gb of dedicated ram, vs 256 shared ram for the 320m. So, in this case the dedicated GT310 gpu is better.
Just a precursor
If I'm betting, this is just a precursor. In a few months Apple is going to issue a small processor upgrade to the 13" to include one of the "ix" chips and then will kill the Macbook, replacing it with the currently configured 13" MBP, and lowering the price by $100.
If I'm betting, this is just a precursor. In a few months Apple is going to issue a small processor upgrade to the 13" to include one of the "ix" chips and then will kill the Macbook, replacing it with the currently configured 13" MBP, and lowering the price by $100.
If you couldn't answer questions then that means you don't know the answer otherwise you would have and sarcastically at that. You're messing with the wrong guy. I'm the one who grew up in the ghetto reading Tolstoy, Dostoyevsky, Salinger, Chekov, etc. for fun and made it my own way with lousy parents while raising two sisters (one of whom is in an Ivy League school and the other will follow). Everything I've earned, given away, sacrificed or learned is well owned and not bought.
Trust me, you're the one who's embarrasing himself.
Ugh... all I wanted was an i3/ i5 13-Inch MacBook Pro with 2 cores/ 4 threads for faster mobile HD video editing and rendering.
Even Philip Bloom (www.philipbloom.co.uk), who pioneered DSLR cinematography, edits HD footage on the fly with a 13-Inch MBP... but c'mon Apple... it's 2010... Core 2 Duo?... after a longer than normal product life-cylce refresh... really? I bought a 13-Inch Core 2 Duo MacBook more than 3 years ago, and I won't be buying another one today.
This isn't really "taking Mac to another level" like Steve mentioned a little while ago. Furthermore, I wouldn't need a few extra hours of battery life if the processor I was rendering HD video with was 30-40% faster!! And publishing performance gains on games that no one really plays anymore is a bit patronizing. I would have expected this kind of minor performance bump back when the plastic 13-Inch MacBook was refreshed... but waiting this long without getting an i3/ i5 option is very disappointing.
Even Philip Bloom (www.philipbloom.co.uk), who pioneered DSLR cinematography, edits HD footage on the fly with a 13-Inch MBP... but c'mon Apple... it's 2010... Core 2 Duo?... after a longer than normal product life-cylce refresh... really? I bought a 13-Inch Core 2 Duo MacBook more than 3 years ago, and I won't be buying another one today.
This isn't really "taking Mac to another level" like Steve mentioned a little while ago. Furthermore, I wouldn't need a few extra hours of battery life if the processor I was rendering HD video with was 30-40% faster!! And publishing performance gains on games that no one really plays anymore is a bit patronizing. I would have expected this kind of minor performance bump back when the plastic 13-Inch MacBook was refreshed... but waiting this long without getting an i3/ i5 option is very disappointing.
Vaio Z is much thicker than the 13" MBP on paper, but it is a little misleading. The battery part of the Z is more like a bulge. The rest of the laptop's thickness is 1.04" and tapers down to .93" at the front. I know this because I own one and measured it. This means the thickness is not that much of a difference compare to the 13" MBP.
The 13" MacBook logic boards are currently limited to a two chip system (processor + platform controller/IGP). Core 2 is the only way to go if you want nVidia along for the ride. nVidia lacks the license for QPI/DMI as well.
I'm not surprised to see the venerable MCP89 name show up again. The GeForce 320M appears to be based off of a 48:16:8 shader core on a GT216 part.
The GeForce 310M is a barely higher clocked G210M part with a 16:8:4 shader core on a GT218 part.
nVidia users higher codename numbers for lower performance parts. GF100 (Fermi) has been spun off to GF104 and an even lower performance GF106/108, etc.
You can pry my gaming PC for a console from my cold dead hands.