Thats not IPTV, IPTV is regular tv from your cable company delivered over the internet, it is just a better way to deliver TV and offers more features, similar to switching from analog to digital. It has nothing to do with on demand streaming sites like Hulu which are not tv of any kind.
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Steve Jobs on an Apple Television Set: 'I Finally Cracked It'
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Thats not IPTV, IPTV is regular tv from your cable company delivered over the internet, it is just a better way to deliver TV and offers more features, similar to switching from analog to digital. It has nothing to do with on demand streaming sites like Hulu which are not tv of any kind.
I bet the TV involves Siri as an interface, and no, I didn't read all the prior entries to see if someone else already mentioned it, but that has to be it.. either way I'm in.. eliminate the clutter!
Hmm, one area I couldn't care less for Apple is TV, I love my Panasonic LCD and I can get my content from my games consoles, blueray or my HD satellite service. So I'm afraid I would not buy any Apple TV or it's services. I would also fear that Apple would price any models at the top end of the market anyway which wouldn't interest me anyway.
And speaking of TV, if you lot didn't know, the two presenters from MythBusters are presenting a special show about Apple and Steve Jobs on Sunday on Discovery and Discovery HD in the UK, not sure if that's the same in the US?
It's called iGenius: How Steve Jobs Changed the World. on at 10PM UK time, followed by the other documentary iPod Revolution at 11PM.
And speaking of TV, if you lot didn't know, the two presenters from MythBusters are presenting a special show about Apple and Steve Jobs on Sunday on Discovery and Discovery HD in the UK, not sure if that's the same in the US?
It's called iGenius: How Steve Jobs Changed the World. on at 10PM UK time, followed by the other documentary iPod Revolution at 11PM.
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That's right. Because Apple has a pattern of significantly reducing the cost of media they offer in the iTunes store. TV shows are cheaper there than via other means (such as DVD or even other streaming sources like netflix).
Movies are cheaper than- say- DVDs or BDs. Music is cheaper than CDs. Books are cheaper than they are from other sources. Magazines are cheaper than they are from other sources. Etc. If we think about the average monthly bill for our television feed now at the usual $75-$125 or more, and then we fantasize that Apple's replacement is going to only cost about a third or less of that norm, why exactly are the current players going to allow that? And keep in mind that for anything to flow from iCloud to an Apple television, it has to pass through pipes usually controlled by the very parties that would suffer the revenue pain of everyone switching from cable/satt to an Apple subscription service. Why are THEY going to allow that to happen... through THEIR pipes?
But, it will be different this time... at least while we're dreaming about it.
Just like Apple did with the music business right? Pay the musicians directly? Oh yeah
Just like Apple did with the book business right? Pay the authors directly? Oh yeah.
Just like Apple did with the existing video offerings right? Pay the content creators directly? Oh yeah.
See the pattern here?
But, it will be different this time... at least while we're dreaming about it.
Obviously, I don't foresee an Apple television. Too many problems with it. What size is the best size to make? Your favorite is probably different than my favorite? LED vs. LCD vs. Plasma vs. Something Else? Apple target margins vs. television industry margins (where there is no 3G subsidy to help out).
But most importantly, unlike iPhones, Macs, etc, if there continues to be a cheap
TV box as a standalone device, all the "wow" software can also run on anyone else's television. If the hardware & software are not exclusively inside an Apple-branded thing, the typical justification for paying up for the Apple-branded thing becomes much more hooked to the Apple brand itself... not the experience. If the software will also run on the exact same panel being supplied for the Apple television- and we all know that the same panel with someone else's logo on it is going to cost a lot less- then a cheap added purchase of an TV set top box brings the same (software) experience to that cheaper (but the same) set. Imagine if iOS and/or OS X was free to run on everyone else's hardware. That's a fundamental problem here. This particular Apple software would be available to run on everyone else's hardware via the set top box called
TV.
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I don't necessarily look at an Apple TV as being just a display for Sports or Entertainment content.
The iPhone 4s records 1080p video. A first. With built in support for iCloud and other technologies Apple could make a push into not only the living room but also the board room.
Imagine iPads/iPhones with Keynote presentations that beam right to the Apple HDTV without need for setup.
Corporations would be that in a heart beat but it doesn't have to be only a corporate device.
The iPhone 4s records 1080p video. A first. With built in support for iCloud and other technologies Apple could make a push into not only the living room but also the board room.
Imagine iPads/iPhones with Keynote presentations that beam right to the Apple HDTV without need for setup.
Corporations would be that in a heart beat but it doesn't have to be only a corporate device.
*You* may be talking about "channels" but I'd argue that channels are just as outdated as the "channel packages" that everyone here complains about. They don't want to pay Comcast $75/month for a package which includes a bunch of channels they don't care about. Well I don't want to pay for a "channel" that includes a bunch of shows I don't care about. Really, paying for individual shows is the ideal way to go. They just need to price that a bit better and offer the first episode for free (so that people can sample a new show before they want to buy into the whole season).
Like what? The ESPN app? You need to already be subscribed to ESPN through a tv provider to use it.
Thats not live tv... thats just a way to access the stuff on their website through iOS. All of that stuff is likely also on Hulu. Definitely not the same thing as only paying for the channels you want, as in everything those channels have to offer.
And keep in mind that $2,000 isn't going to be enough to charge for really great quality and to get a 40% margin that Apple gets with its other stuff. Apple's iOS is already available for $100 through the Apple TV. Even at that price, it doesn't exactly sell very many units. Maybe they can make that iOS much better. But then why not just sell cheap AppleTV hockey pucks for $200 instead of going into manufacturing the whole thing?
Did you create this video?
http://www.theonion.com/video/sony-releases-new-stupid-piece-of-****-that-doesnt,14309/
They can probably keep it down with their supply chain management and clever engineering. Look at the Apple TV... it is only $99. I don't see why they couldn't release for a reasonable price. They may have a model that is $2000+ though.
You still don't get it.
There is no need for ABC or CBS to have "live" TV as their programming can be delivered at any time any where on any device.
Nothing is stopping a network like Fox News from streaming their channel 24/7 if they can generate revenue.
As for local news and what not, nothing is stopping them from having their own app to stream their new casts - but those are also pointless when they can give choice of which segment to watch.
MLB already has live games. Same with the NHL. Only need to get the NFL on board.
The building blocks are there. The industry just needs a little shove like the music industry did when the iPod came out. Apple is the company to make that happen.
Now another tidbit came out. Steve got depressed on iPad 1 launch day when people said mean things.
It is a bit ridiculous that people can be so skeptical so fast.
I hope he didn't hear too many of the comments, hopefully NONE, about the 4S on launch day. Now people seem to love it perfectly well. I wish he could have lived to hear the 4 million number.
It is a bit ridiculous that people can be so skeptical so fast.
I hope he didn't hear too many of the comments, hopefully NONE, about the 4S on launch day. Now people seem to love it perfectly well. I wish he could have lived to hear the 4 million number.
You ignore the fact that casual readers of MR (like myself) happen to land on the front page without any say in what goes on it. Now if MR had a spoiler free section like they do for keynotes you might have a valid point. But they don't. The only alternative is to not visit MR.
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The utter lack of imagination shown by some in this thread is amazing. We're talking about Steve Jobs here. He thought about this for years. You think he didn't consider every objection that's been mentioned in this thread and more?
I hope this thread is still around if Apple tv does happen. It will be interesting to see how everyone said it wouldn't work, as it sells millions of units and becomes the next big thing.
Everyone had a million reasons why they couldn't change the phone, then everyone said the tablet had been tried many times and failed...so it couldn't possibly catch on.
Nobody knows what the revolution will be until after we see it and go wow.
Everyone had a million reasons why they couldn't change the phone, then everyone said the tablet had been tried many times and failed...so it couldn't possibly catch on.
Nobody knows what the revolution will be until after we see it and go wow.
Never happen, because that would mean that Apple would be copying a Microsoft innovation.
And I keep reading here that Apple never copies....
However, Kinect-like technology would be a great way to control a big screen TV.
I can't see Apple getting into selling small screen TVs.
Or large screen TVs. Or projectors.
I would bet on a vastly improved "Apple TV" set top box, that you could connect to whatever size and technology screen that you want.
LOL
Comcast was very willing to give me a dual-channel CableCard for my TiVo HD. That was a good way for them to keep me as a customer.
But, I don't want Apple to have control over the content either.
Until you hit your bandwidth cap for the month....
...and if you don't have cable internet?
Cracked it?
Hmmmm, it's probably been said already, but I just read the post...what if SIRI is involved...NO remotes?
In conjunction with iCloud and AppleTV, SIRI would be pretty great.
Hmmmm, it's probably been said already, but I just read the post...what if SIRI is involved...NO remotes?
In conjunction with iCloud and AppleTV, SIRI would be pretty great.
Tv is kind of for lazy people. Not interactive. Shows are too long. I can not see this being different unless there were more interactive options. I think the rise of the internets shows that tv is boring and people want something else. Not that tv isn't huge, but I think the internets are eventually going to eat it up.