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Steve Jobs on an Apple Television Set: 'I Finally Cracked It'
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Bring it on.
The television is the only screen in my house not of Apple design; it seems like it should be the centerpiece surrounded by my iMac, MacBook, iPad, iPod and iPhone.
Most newer high-end TVs are Internet capable, complete with apps. No reason Apple shouldn't be able to enter this market, with the most and best apps. Add full-scale Safari, iCloud, and Siri voice control and Apple fans will pawn the family jewels to buy it.
I don't see a screen size less than 42"; my guess is the they would go for the 50"=55" screen size sweet spot.
The television is the only screen in my house not of Apple design; it seems like it should be the centerpiece surrounded by my iMac, MacBook, iPad, iPod and iPhone.
Most newer high-end TVs are Internet capable, complete with apps. No reason Apple shouldn't be able to enter this market, with the most and best apps. Add full-scale Safari, iCloud, and Siri voice control and Apple fans will pawn the family jewels to buy it.
I don't see a screen size less than 42"; my guess is the they would go for the 50"=55" screen size sweet spot.
Makes me wonder if Apple could accomplish the same with ATV without the display. Not sure if a TV set is what will revolutionize but the software to bring content in a new and unexpected way. This is where I think Apple can be king.
As for the television set itself is not necessary imo.
As for the television set itself is not necessary imo.
Enough with the spoilers about the biography, I want to read the book!
These posts should have an alert before them, so people can skip them. It seems I'm going to have to restrain myself of macrumors until I've read the book in a couple of days!
These posts should have an alert before them, so people can skip them. It seems I'm going to have to restrain myself of macrumors until I've read the book in a couple of days!
Not sure how useful a tv is going to be since I've converted to projection. Once you see 100" you'll never go back. The only thing I can envision being useful to me would be a combination of Apple TV & a DVR. As long as it can play mkv files I'm in. I'm sick of TiVo although it is a great idea. Too many ads, slow interface, bugs, networking capabilities not great.
The only thing I can envision being useful to me would be a combination of Apple TV & a DVR. As long as it can play mkv files I'm in. I'm sick of TiVo although it is a great idea. Too many ads, slow interface, bugs, networking capabilities not great.
Who will built them, Samsung, Sony or LG?
It would be interesting too see what sizes are being considered. Imagine having to shlep a 50+ inch tv through the mall to have a "genius" look at it.
I have a 54" inch tv, luckily Panasonic provides in house warranty service for my set.
It would be interesting too see what sizes are being considered. Imagine having to shlep a 50+ inch tv through the mall to have a "genius" look at it.
I have a 54" inch tv, luckily Panasonic provides in house warranty service for my set.
Joke post?
So to stream movies I have to not watch the 1080p/24 7.1 bluray films I have and instead watch heavily compressed 720p versions that need repurchasing? I love quality media, so I opt for bluray.
iOS games over Xbox, PS3 and Wii games?
Streaming TV? I'd drop my sky box if they hadn't buggered up my bill for the better
. But I personally don't need streaming TV, YMMV.Not sure where Jobs is from...but in the past 20 years lived in 2 States and used multiple cable services. NONE came with complex remotes for me to change the channel...and NONE of my dvd/bluray units have complex remotes for me to watch my movie.
Are there too many buttons on 99% of ALL remote controls? Yes. But until the world of TV is completely menu driven on-screen, the buttons will remain.
I'm a huge a/v geek and I've very very rarely used the remotes to do complex stuff like audio setup or settings of my tv.
Apple is right that the whole cable industry is extremely complex, very much a monopoly, and nobody gets "in" unless they agree to play by all the rules. Someone like Apple/Jobs who wants to turn the tv world upside down will/would not ever be allowed "in". Everyone thought 10+ years ago that Tivo was going to finally change the tv world and all it did was allow you to watch shows at a later time. Great...but it just didn't crack the egg. Nor did/does all the blurary players of the past 4 years with the built-in apps like Netflix and MLB.TV.
The cable nightmare needs to be broken up by the government. I'm sick of the high prices, the useless/extra hardware, and the we-won't-commit-to-anything service attitude.
Are there too many buttons on 99% of ALL remote controls? Yes. But until the world of TV is completely menu driven on-screen, the buttons will remain.
I'm a huge a/v geek and I've very very rarely used the remotes to do complex stuff like audio setup or settings of my tv.
Apple is right that the whole cable industry is extremely complex, very much a monopoly, and nobody gets "in" unless they agree to play by all the rules. Someone like Apple/Jobs who wants to turn the tv world upside down will/would not ever be allowed "in". Everyone thought 10+ years ago that Tivo was going to finally change the tv world and all it did was allow you to watch shows at a later time. Great...but it just didn't crack the egg. Nor did/does all the blurary players of the past 4 years with the built-in apps like Netflix and MLB.TV.
The cable nightmare needs to be broken up by the government. I'm sick of the high prices, the useless/extra hardware, and the we-won't-commit-to-anything service attitude.
I'll just leave this here:
Original post: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/977034/
Did you notice how a year and a half ago I totally predicted Siri, AirPlay, and iTunes in the Cloud? That stuff wasn't even rumored back then.
We'll see if my predictions for iTV come true too. Check back Summer next year.
(the only prediction I regret making is Apple partnering with a cable company like Comcast. That'll never happen. And resolution independence too, Apple will never do that.)
Original post: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/977034/
Did you notice how a year and a half ago I totally predicted Siri, AirPlay, and iTunes in the Cloud? That stuff wasn't even rumored back then.
We'll see if my predictions for iTV come true too. Check back Summer next year.
(the only prediction I regret making is Apple partnering with a cable company like Comcast. That'll never happen. And resolution independence too, Apple will never do that.)
^ if you think there is the remotest chance that a consumer 4K resolution 50" screen will be $999 in 2012 you are very much mistaken..... And by a wide margin.
Could he have not just meant appleTV ? As opposed to an Apple TV ?
Could he have not just meant appleTV ? As opposed to an Apple TV ?
Apple TV wishlist
Content
1. All channels carried.
2. Internet video providers, yes including Netflix and similar.
3. Intuitive programming navigation and search, with active preview window.
4. ALL channels buffered to cloud, to beginning of current or recently finished program at least - for play, rewind, save.
5. Support for internet content over video and/or windowed and/or on second display (like iPad). Should include translation of program dispalyed web addresses, social networking IDs, email, street addresses, to active links for save or launching appropriate application.
6. Game Center (big one, but will leave to your imagination).
7. "Watch anywhere".
8. FaceTime - and btw might need to think about supporting "unified" FaceTime, iPhone #, iPad, and even home phone call invoked if incoming caller has a FaceTime supporting device (like Apple TV or iPad). All configurable per user.
9. Browse everything web if you really want to.
Hardware
1. Fully range of current Apple display technologies...and then some.
2. I think some subset of above features will continue to be developed on current Apple TV platform, with full feature set requiring fully integrated, Apple television Product.
3. Integration with no doubt ingenious user interface device or two for navigation and gaming.
4. Everying else Apple via AirPlay.
Content
1. All channels carried.
2. Internet video providers, yes including Netflix and similar.
3. Intuitive programming navigation and search, with active preview window.
4. ALL channels buffered to cloud, to beginning of current or recently finished program at least - for play, rewind, save.
5. Support for internet content over video and/or windowed and/or on second display (like iPad). Should include translation of program dispalyed web addresses, social networking IDs, email, street addresses, to active links for save or launching appropriate application.
6. Game Center (big one, but will leave to your imagination).
7. "Watch anywhere".
8. FaceTime - and btw might need to think about supporting "unified" FaceTime, iPhone #, iPad, and even home phone call invoked if incoming caller has a FaceTime supporting device (like Apple TV or iPad). All configurable per user.
9. Browse everything web if you really want to.
Hardware
1. Fully range of current Apple display technologies...and then some.
2. I think some subset of above features will continue to be developed on current Apple TV platform, with full feature set requiring fully integrated, Apple television Product.
3. Integration with no doubt ingenious user interface device or two for navigation and gaming.
4. Everying else Apple via AirPlay.
Profit margins are so low in the flat screen TV market that Apple would have to really add a lot of value to the device to justify the premium they would inevitably charge for it. Look at the Bose Videowave TV, that's only 46 inches and it's over $5k, and it's not even a very high quality TV. Take a Cinema Display and supersize it, put theTV inside the unit and some other magic ingredient? I don't see how this would compete well when there are so many other choices, they would have to bring something that made it the best of the best in order to not get lost in the sea of other TVs.
You're not thinking it through. If the device integrates iphone, ipod, itunes, icloud, etc, into the TV... what does that do to their collective sales? It's pretty easy to see what their goal is.
Bose is known for making overpriced stuff.
He was a man, not a deity as his untimely death proves. He also thought about the iPhone for years and he ignored the request for third party apps on the device - unable to see how much of a game changer that would end up being.
He made mistakes and poor choices at times like any human, do not think of him as some higher being who had reached technophoric enlightenment, he was a genius, but one who had his flaws like every man, woman & child has...
Very true, also...
Not unless he sorts out those Licencing deals worldwide.
Most countries with iTunes outside of USA/Canada have very limited content (no tv shows etc...) a TV set without content is not going to change anything....
he also had some duds. the Mac cube thing? the list of duds at apple is pretty long with a lot of them under SJ. he's just smart enough to kill of bad products right away
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I'll just leave this here:
Original post: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/977034/
Did you notice how a year and a half ago I totally predicted Siri, AirPlay, and iTunes in the Cloud? That stuff wasn't even rumored back then.
We'll see if my predictions for iTV come true too. Check back Summer next year.
(the only prediction I regret making is Apple partnering with a cable company like Comcast. That'll never happen. And resolution independence too, Apple will never do that.)
how would i play my blu ray's on this?
I fail to see whats impressive when you list stuff knowledgeable people already considered obvious?
That's very interesting... and this is obviously relatedly recent, with the references to iCloud.
My only concern is that, like the apple tv, you'll basically only be able to play iTunes content and streaming services, and you won't be able to play your own files (avi, mkv, and other formats). In fact, I have yet to find a good media player that plays ALL video formats. I mean, really, is it that hard?? If VLC can do it, I don't see why hardware developers have such a hard time. Guess I'll just have to get a mac mini as an HTPC
Still, although I'm sure it'll have some annoying limitations, I'd love to see a tv made by apple...!
My only concern is that, like the apple tv, you'll basically only be able to play iTunes content and streaming services, and you won't be able to play your own files (avi, mkv, and other formats). In fact, I have yet to find a good media player that plays ALL video formats. I mean, really, is it that hard?? If VLC can do it, I don't see why hardware developers have such a hard time. Guess I'll just have to get a mac mini as an HTPC
Still, although I'm sure it'll have some annoying limitations, I'd love to see a tv made by apple...!
Any particular format thats been a problem? I could imagine WebM lacking support, but I can't think of other issues (or softsub issues) with any even moderately modern playback box.