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All he is saying is that att is improving their network and it should get better.

a.k.a- No Verizon iPhone!

(this yeaer.)
 
1) This would explain why your not a CEO

2) What do you expect him to say? There are somethings that are suppose to be confidential

3) If he had not straight talked then people would have came on this board and complained about it. Seems like SJ can't get a break either way. Some people are truly never satisfied

1. I'm not a CEO because i'm 25 years old on the good ol' corporate ladder at a major worldwide company. Give me time ;)

2. You don't think he came off a little harash to his fans/consumers? I don't expect him to say anything to be honest. I can't give my thoughts on his response?

3. Well be consistent. He doesn't do straight talk when its Apple...when its easy to blame someone else he goes with oh well.

Its an admirable and to be frank, annoying way of talking.

Doesn't make me not respect him anymore more or less than i do however. Just discussing the interview.
 
a.k.a- No Verizon iPhone!

(this yeaer.)

True that but if someone does want a VZW iphone i would suggest.

1) Finding a pulpit and praying

2) Sitting on a piece of coal and waiting for it to turn into a diamond.

Because there is better chance of that than VZW ever getting the iPhone at this point in time.
 
Here's another quote the bot left out:
Steve:Remember, they're handling WAY MORE data traffic than all of their other competitors combined.
Given that statement, I'm sure that even Steve would agree that Verizon would've struggled with iPhone exclusivity.

Steve was wrong. It's been noted here quite often that Verizon and Sprint each carry more data than ATT does.

As far as a Verizon phone goes, his "I can't comment on that" is far more encouraging than a flat out "Not gonna happen" :)
 
This will be his downfall... arrogance

What kind of ***** answer is that?! Steve, love everything you've made for MANY years and convinced countless friend to be switchers. The one thing I can't love is the iPhone cause you can't love something that doesn't perform its primary function. Top that off with a smart-assed, who-gives-a-rat's-ass response about customer service and you've identified the flaw in the system. The modern day equivalent to "Let them eat cake."

I got an iPhone from my wife and son for my last birthday. I live in a very populated area (Mesa, AZ), and I couldn't even get 2G on my iPhone. I returned it the following day. I'm one of the 17% of Verizon users who would buy an iPhone on the Verizon network. Hell, I'd even try AT&T again if they put up some towers! My devotion to Apple products slips every time I hear SJ's pompous BS. If you're going to have a crappy business partner, the least thing you could do would be to fake empathy with potential customers who are significantly under served. :(
 
True that but if someone does want a VZW iphone i would suggest.

1) Finding a pulpit and praying

2) Sitting on a piece of coal and waiting for it to turn into a diamond.

Because there is better chance of that than VZW ever getting the iPhone at this point in time.

Uh, yeah that's what i was trying to say.

Don't get me wrong, i hate Verizon & wish they will never get an iPhone. But there will come a point in time where Apple will eventually release the iPhone in all four carriers. I'm just hoping not these upcoming two years, but when LTE is rolled out. Trust me, having an iPhone on the Verizon network will just end the "phone" in iPhone.
 
Uh, yeah that's what i was trying to say.

Don't get me wrong, i hate Verizon & wish they will never get an iPhone. But there will come a point in time where Apple will eventually release the iPhone in all four carriers. I'm just hoping not these upcoming two years, but when LTE is rolled out. Trust me, having an iPhone on the Verizon network will just end the "phone" in iPhone.

Why would you or anyone wish another carrier to not get the iPhone? I don't get it. I could give two sh*ts about either carrier, but having a choice is good for everyone so you can get the phone of your choice on provider that gives you the best service.

Even for someone that may "love" AT&T and hate Verizon (not saying you), what if they move to an area where AT&T is horrid but Verizon is better? The ability to actually have the option is a positive... so please enlighten me.
 
If the iPhone did show up on another carrier it would also pretty much be the end of being able to sell your Iphone for some sort of value.

Right now i can sell my 3GS and get a pretty penny for this. If the market is flooded with these devices it will ruin any type of Value on selling the iphone like most of us are to put money toward the new one.
 
Don't get me wrong, i hate Verizon & wish they will never get an iPhone. But there will come a point in time where Apple will eventually release the iPhone in all four carriers. I'm just hoping not these upcoming two years, but when LTE is rolled out. Trust me, having an iPhone on the Verizon network will just end the "phone" in iPhone.
Obviously, you are not an AAPL shareholder.

While I have no interest in purchasing a Verizon iPhone, I have no problems with giving that purchase choice to fellow consumers. I want Apple to sell oodles of these devices and Verizon customers' dollars are just as green as anyone else's.

You are a fool to say that Verizon shouldn't get the iPhone.
 
I love my 3GS. That said, if AT&T can't get phone service to me where everybody else gets 5 bars, it's going to have to go.


+1

For the most part I receive excellent service, but when I travel it's a giant cluster mess (putting it lightly).
 
It's nice to see people in this thread have crystal balls. I didn't hear anything confirming the iPhone on another network. So why speculate about something that we have no proof of?

To Quote someone..."Trust but verify" And So far there has been no verification of anything pointing to verizon...:rolleyes:

I agree completely. It's not like this is a rumor site or something. (yes, that was sarcasm.)
 
the way things will improve on AT&T is customers switching to Verizon.
If you have two, maybe 3 carriers supporting the iphone, it will be good for all of us.

The more people that leave AT&T the less congested the network is and the better it will be for us who decide to stick with AT&T.
 
the way things will improve on AT&T is customers switching to Verizon.
If you have two, maybe 3 carriers supporting the iphone, it will be good for all of us.

The more people that leave AT&T the less congested the network is and the better it will be for us who decide to stick with AT&T.
Not necessarily.

A lot of mobile operator problems are reception issues, not congestion problems. If you're in a really bad area for reception, it's not gonna matter if you're connecting at 2pm or 2am.

I basically get zero bars of AT&T reception in my condo and it really doesn't matter which day of the week or what time of the day it is.

Believing that a large AT&T-to-Verizon exodus will vastly improve your iPhone performance is naive.
 
Obviously, you are not an AAPL shareholder.

While I have no interest in purchasing a Verizon iPhone, I have no problems with giving that purchase choice to fellow consumers. I want Apple to sell oodles of these devices and Verizon customers' dollars are just as green as anyone else's.

You are a fool to say that Verizon shouldn't get the iPhone.

Just because i'm not an AAPL shareholder, doesn't mean i can't have my right of expressing my own opinion.
What i was trying to cover is that Verizon is at a bad market for offering an iPhone. Although people will just jump ship because of its more coverage availability, Verizon customers will loose a few more other benefits that iPhone has currently have to offer on AT&T's network version of the iPhone. I'm not saying a Verizon iPhone will never happen, i'm just "trying" to say it's not that right choice of route Apple could choose at this moment.
 
Not necessarily.

A lot of mobile operator problems are reception issues, not congestion problems. If you're in a really bad area for reception, it's not gonna matter if you're connecting at 2pm or 2am.

I basically get zero bars of AT&T reception in my condo and it really doesn't matter which day of the week or what time of the day it is.

Believing that a large AT&T-to-Verizon exodus will improve your iPhone performance is naive.


You saying that he is naive for voicing one of the current problems and a situation that would help it makes you look naive.

It is known that the issue he spoke up is apparent in some areas, and it is also known by every human being that owns a cell phone that in some places reception sucks.
 
Just because i'm not an AAPL shareholder, doesn't mean i can't have my right of expressing my own opinion.
What i was trying to cover is that Verizon is at a bad market for offering an iPhone. Although people will just jump ship because of its more coverage availability, Verizon customers will loose a few more other benefits that iPhone has currently have to offer on AT&T's network version of the iPhone. I'm not saying a Verizon iPhone will never happen, i'm just "trying" to say it's not that right choice of route Apple could choose at this moment.

And what benefits would these be?

Verizon is already said to be working on simultaneous voice and data over the current network, so putting that aside, what else?
 
Horrible responses. My contract with ATT is up and I'm headed to Sprint and an EVO. Good riddance iPhone without a quality turn by turn service and a carrier that can't maintain a call.
 
And what benefits would these be?

Verizon is already said to be working on simultaneous voice and data over the current network, so putting that aside, what else?

Was that confirmed or a rumor? Exactly!

And they'd be loosing faster 3G data, Talking & browsing, and traveling while using your iPhone.

That would just leave an iPhone 3 steps back then what it is today.
 
Just because i'm not an AAPL shareholder, doesn't mean i can't have my right of expressing my own opinion.
What i was trying to cover is that Verizon is at a bad market for offering an iPhone. Although people will just jump ship because of its more coverage availability, Verizon customers will loose a few more other benefits that iPhone has currently have to offer on AT&T's network version of the iPhone. I'm not saying a Verizon iPhone will never happen, i'm just "trying" to say it's not that right choice of route Apple could choose at this moment.
I'm not saying that you need to own AAPL shares to make a useful comment.

However, it is clear that MacRumors forum participants who do own shares typically have read the SEC filings and understand the company's business model and strategy better than random fanbois who exhibit zero acknowledgement about consumer electronics economics, etc.

Please feel free to express whatever opinion you desire. When you are a shareholder of a company, it gives you great perspective about what is important and what isn't. Remember, a publicly-traded company's primary responsibility is to its shareholders.

You may read the SEC filings yourself for free.

Oh, and thank you for clarifying your comments. They are considerably different in nature than what you originally posted.

I'm not saying a Verizon iPhone will never happen, i'm just "trying" to say it's not that right choice of route Apple could choose at this moment.
Odd, you contradict yourself.
i hate Verizon & wish they will never get an iPhone.
Be careful of what you post. You're not defending a stance of logic and reason. There are people in the forum who pay attention to such details.
 
Believing that a large AT&T-to-Verizon exodus will vastly improve your iPhone performance is naive.

I get great reception where I live. Never drop a call. full bars. Great 3G speed. The moment I step into the city of San Francisco, it's like I have a completely different phone. Unreliable connection, dropped/missed calls. Doesn't matter what part of the city I am at, it's very unreliable.

If you have a large concentration of iphone users in one location, the network is congested and we all get bad service. The same thing happens during a ball game.

If this large volume of users is split up into 2 or even 3 separate networks, service will improve.
 
Hey guys, here's something interesting I picked up on:

Steve Jobs said

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/01/steve-jobs-live-from-d8/

7:37PM Q: You changed your TOS on analytics -- do you want to own that for developer's data?
Steve: Well we learned this really interesting thing. Some company called Flurry had data on devices that we were using on our campus -- new devices. They were getting this info by getting developers to put software in their apps that sent info back to this company! So we went through the roof. It's violating our privacy policies, and it's pissing us off! So we said we're only going to allow analytics that don't give our device info -- only for the purpose of advertising.

Now check out this Engadget article from April,

http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/12/is-this-proof-of-a-verizon-iphone/

If you believe the above graphic -- a snippet of data allegedly from the recently reliable Flurry Analytics -- then at least a handful of non-AT&T phones are currently in play. The numbers show a polling of carriers a particular app is being tested on, and there's no denying that Verizon is most certainly on that list... albeit in small numbers.
 
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