Thank you.
Most people who do not use FireWire usually tell the rest of us who do use FireWire to piss off. Thank you for not doing this.
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Steve Jobs on Lack of Firewire in MacBooks
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Thank you.
Most people who do not use FireWire usually tell the rest of us who do use FireWire to piss off. Thank you for not doing this.Why? In the music production there are not many USB sound cards and they never work as they should. And music is a very hard realtime application. I remember
when athlon had a very bad reputation for a bug in one of the chipsets that some motherboards used. So athlon was a no-no for a studio computer. The bug as only causing some sound glitches now and then. (Very similar to usb problems) But it was very hard to get back in to the studios after that for AMD. And still is I would say. And now apple have removed the firewire from the macbook, and they have switched back to agere chipsets on the macbook pro. (Was restored back to texas in feb) And that fu**ing chip does not work with soundcards realtime needs. So now we cant use apple laptops in the studio. (New one's that is) I wait a half year. If there is no solution then I will try to do a hackintosh with a HP-IBM-Dell or what ever. Since im a nuendo user I can switch to microsoft windows if needed. I bought the concept of "It just works". It's have been a pleasant journey. And now it doesn't work any more.
when athlon had a very bad reputation for a bug in one of the chipsets that some motherboards used. So athlon was a no-no for a studio computer. The bug as only causing some sound glitches now and then. (Very similar to usb problems) But it was very hard to get back in to the studios after that for AMD. And still is I would say. And now apple have removed the firewire from the macbook, and they have switched back to agere chipsets on the macbook pro. (Was restored back to texas in feb) And that fu**ing chip does not work with soundcards realtime needs. So now we cant use apple laptops in the studio. (New one's that is) I wait a half year. If there is no solution then I will try to do a hackintosh with a HP-IBM-Dell or what ever. Since im a nuendo user I can switch to microsoft windows if needed. I bought the concept of "It just works". It's have been a pleasant journey. And now it doesn't work any more.
The 12" PB (not MBP) didn't make Apple enough money because it took away sales from the higher-end models, the same way a 13" MBP or a MB with FireWire would.
Dead on.
Self-producing musicians in home studios use FW all the time, for interfaces and ext. HDDs. This is a slap in the face to a market traditionally overrepresented by Mac users (5% of total computer market, 60+% of the audio market).
I use a USB interface now. I used to use a FW400 interface, which I had to liquidate a few years ago. Guess which one was rock-solid, and which is "twitchy"?
For video and audio, where you need perfect timing of data streaming with no glitches, FW400 absolutely SPANKS USB2. I am not an interface/hardware engineer, so I don't pretend to know why this is, but it is absolutely true.
Agere chipsets? Seriously? Might as well ditch firewire on the Pros too then.
I think I'll got to a mac store with my interfaces and usb drive (to boot my studio setup) and check whether the new chipset is that bad.
Thank you.
Just like most people who don't own PPC machines told the the PPC users to piss off over the whole Snow Leopard thing. You see, eventually Apple will come after their technology too.
Are you serious, dude here is comparing USB to an operating system.
It is a perfectly valid argument. Because the uneducated masses only know USB and use Windows, should we also switch to Windows?
I only read up until page 16 or so, but didn't see anyone mentioning the fact that there was no room in the current form factor for the firewire port.
If you really want to have the firewire 400 port on the macbook, you must give up 1 of those ports. Which one would you sacrifice? The MagSafe, Display Port, and the "kensington port" definitely have to stay.
Would you give up the ethernet port, or the 2nd USB port?
If you really want to have the firewire 400 port on the macbook, you must give up 1 of those ports. Which one would you sacrifice? The MagSafe, Display Port, and the "kensington port" definitely have to stay.
Would you give up the ethernet port, or the 2nd USB port?
I have not seen any new machines yet. But people how cares for it have seen that it is agere chip for firewire. If they have solved the problem we don't know. But be very careful if you are planing to use macbook pro for pro audio!
Nothing. As usual, the design is form over function. There is nothing wrong with having some ports at the back.
I would give up DVD-player. I love Dell's approach, put in a extra battery or a dvd/cd of your own choice. With no dvd we can have firewire and pccard!
The Line-In is at line level as well so the majority of existing microphones won't even work on it. I bought a USB headset instead of an iMic to get around this.
Removing the Line-In for FireWire is brilliant.
Removing the Line-In for FireWire is brilliant.
So go buy you HP or Dell, it's that simple, it seems you don't value what Apple has to offer, that's why there are alternatives out there, no one is forcing you to use Apple's products.
That approach sucks. At least if a computer is stupid enough to leave out FireWire but has ExpressCard, you can add it. And in a form factor which puts the MBA to shame:
http://eu.computers.toshiba-europe.com/innovation/series/Portege-R600-Series/1058747/
Yes I'm sure a couple of random dudes on the net is going to make Apple fail as a company, this is the same crap we hear whenver Apple drops something but yet they are still here alive and kicking, and I don't think Apple will "cease" to be cool anytime soon, whatever the heck that means.
That's what I'm thinking, you would think it's the end of the world and Apple is the only company making computers, I mean what is Apple's marketshare worldwide, like 3%.
The Line-In is at line level as well so the majority of existing microphones won't even work on it. I bought a USB headset instead of an iMic to get around this.
Removing the Line-In for FireWire is brilliant.
Indeed it is!
Because there are alternatives out there, if you don't like what Apple has to offer, go buy somethign else instead of coming and complaining on the internet. It's not even like Apple decided to drop it completely, they have other machines with it, including a 999 macbook but no it's better to whine.
So let me guess Apple is forcing you to dump all your equipment even though they provide alternatives such as the 999 macbook and other computers and also there are other companies like Dell and HP also making computers, right.