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Steve Jobs On Medical Leave, But Still At The Helm

Expect more problems like the multiple billing for Lion if Steve stays out of the details.

Yeah, he's a pain in the butt to work for, but what other company has consistently delivered so many top tier hardware, software, esthetic home runs, retail experience and delivery breakthroughs? People really step up their game if they expect Steve to pop in and check their work.
 
davie18 said:
Lol 'everyone else'.

Nice to see you just put so many companies together there, presuming they all have the exact same goals.
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Ok prove me wrong. Show me one PC brand that ships completed PCs that is not Apple and only ships quality and is not after more quantity.
 
jlgolson said:
I'm curious why you think Apple isn't after more quantity.
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I'm sure they'd like quantity, but not while sacrificing quality. If Apple truly cared about selling in massive numbers, they probably wouldn't be making computers out of solid blocks of aluminum, and would stick to plastic boxes like everyone else.
 
R0bert said:
Tim Cook is an operations guy, not a visionary leader. A better choice would be Steve Jobs apprentice Scott Forstall but he's not ready yet.
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Tim Cook is as responsible for Apple's huge success as Steve Jobs. Jobs may be out front and be the visionary but Cook makes the trains run on time, so to speak. It is Cook who has mastered the supply chain, allowing Apple to lock competitors out of getting materials they need to compete with Apple.
 
ouimetnick said:
I wish Steve the best. I hope he recovers more, so he can be CEO again. But then again, I hardly think about it, as he still does the Keynotes.

Get well Steve.
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Nicolas4ever said:
wish the best for steve jobs.i love him really , if Tim cook become the CEO i won't be happy , i want Steve jobs to be the CEO for ever
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Digitalclips said:
Why do you assume he won't be here in ten years or more?
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Come guys, let's get real. We all know it. The man almost certainly is dying from advanced pancreatic cancer. $70,000,000,000.00 can’t change that. If he bought every drug company on Earth, it wouldn't change things. He is not God.

He was diagnosed in 2004 and had an attempt at curative treatment. Then when he had local recurrence he had his transplant in 2009.

Then in February of this year he was given further chemotherapy at Stanford Cancer Centre. You wouldn't do that unless he had relapsed, and hence he is incurable.

He is doing really well to still be alive at this point. Sure it would be great if he was around in 5 years, though this would put him in the 0.01% range.

Although we may love him, he is just a man after all.
 
I think that when Steves says that he's gonna leave apple and leave it in the hands of someone else, that when he wants to leave the stage, everyone in the room will shout at him to stay, and when he's gone, there will be people crying, including me…
 
wackymacky said:
Come guys, let's get real. We all know it. The man almost certainly is dying from advanced pancreatic cancer. $70,000,000,000.00 can’t change that. If he bought every drug company on Earth, it wouldn't change things. He is not God.

He was diagnosed in 2004 and had an attempt at curative treatment. Then when he had local recurrence he had his transplant in 2009.

Then in February of this year he was given further chemotherapy at Stanford Cancer Centre. You wouldn't do that unless he had relapsed, and hence he is incurable.

He is doing really well to still be alive at this point. Sure it would be great if he was around in 5 years, though this would put him in the 0.01% range.

Although we may love him, he is just a man after all.
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I do agree, and believe that his authorisation of a biography is further evidence that he may be dying. I really hope I am wrong.
 
R0bert said:
Tim Cook is an operations guy, not a visionary leader. A better choice would be Steve Jobs apprentice Scott Forstall but he's not ready yet.
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With all due respect to Scott Forstall, I don't really see anything he's done to demonstrate he is a visionary leader. Probably a great engineer and manager, but not sure about visionary.
 
Here he is still, years after his major treatments. Looking pretty much the same, not acting like he is on painkillers or heavy drugs.

Skinnier? There is a school of thought that the very most important thing you can do to live a long life is to eat very little which of course will make you very skinny. His skinniness may well serve him well for a very long time.

I went thru a case of the Big C and despite being a lot stronger and more physical that Jobs, I can tell you that there is no way to hide the effects of chemo, radiation and surgery. At the time I thought I was hiding it well, but I see the photos...no, it is pretty obvious. Many cancers can be cured, but it is a process where it is bludgeoned to death and so are you!

You, me, Jobs...we could all be gone tomorrow, but probably not. People are hard to kill and modern medicine is very effective at prolonging life and allowing for a decent life at that.

His less stressful new life, not having to scream at the tofu salesman and such, will likely add to his life and actually allow him to be more effective than he was. Micro managers so often lose sight of important things, so this is good, not bad at all.
 
admanimal said:
With all due respect to Scott Forstall, I don't really see anything he's done to demonstrate he is a visionary leader. Probably a great engineer and manager, but not sure about visionary.
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The thing is all the people that make up the Apple exec team are brilliant and the best at what they do but I don't think any of them, alone will be as effective as Steve. Steve knows how to get the best out of talented individuals.
 
R0bert said:
Tim Cook is an operations guy, not a visionary leader. A better choice would be Steve Jobs apprentice Scott Forstall but he's not ready yet.
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Hi, I'm the new guy.

You know what?

I think that by now the engineers and management at Apple (and other companies, that is), should have learned something from what Jobs has done over the past 15 years (that is, kicking some major ass).

The best engineers and the best executives are already there, should Jobs retire tomorrow, I think they would be like "okay, would would Steve do?" for the rest of their lives.


Greetings from sunny Eye-taly.
 
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wackymacky said:
Come guys, let's get real. We all know it. The man almost certainly is dying from advanced pancreatic cancer. $70,000,000,000.00 can’t change that. If he bought every drug company on Earth, it wouldn't change things. He is not God.

He was diagnosed in 2004 and had an attempt at curative treatment. Then when he had local recurrence he had his transplant in 2009.

Then in February of this year he was given further chemotherapy at Stanford Cancer Centre. You wouldn't do that unless he had relapsed, and hence he is incurable.

He is doing really well to still be alive at this point. Sure it would be great if he was around in 5 years, though this would put him in the 0.01% range.

Although we may love him, he is just a man after all.
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You're probably right, this is perfectly sensible talk.

But I can't help noticing the irony in that it does sound a bit like "I'd shut the company down and give the money back to the shareholders".

The one lesson Steve Jobs has to teach us: forget about being reasonable, just do it right.

I hope he sticks to that during his last years, may them be now or in 30 years.

We all should too.
 
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techweenie said:
Expect more problems like the multiple billing for Lion if Steve stays out of the details.

Yeah, he's a pain in the butt to work for, but what other company has consistently delivered so many top tier hardware, software, esthetic home runs, retail experience and delivery breakthroughs? People really step up their game if they expect Steve to pop in and check their work.
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Yea like the iPhone 4 antenna. I love apple as much as the rest of you but they are far from perfect.
 
While Steve Jobs is obviously irreplaceable. Apple will have to get used to doing things on it's own. Besides Steve's ability to see the future;) It's all about showmanship. Something that few can play off as well as jobs.

While I'm certain steve has built a huge pool of talent that can sustain apple for many years. Apple will need a face to share it's self with the public. Cook may know how to run apple just fine on his own. I just dont see him being the face of apple.
Out of all the people that have spoken on behalf of Apple or introduced things for apple no one has caught my attention more then Jonathan Ives. If I was big investor in APPLE I would request cook to run things and Ives to be the guy in the public.

As long as I'm on the subject of a company having a face.
How in the world did microsoft ever allow Steve ''monkey man'' Balmer to ever to be the front man

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rpaloalto said:
As long as I'm on the subject of a company having a face.
How in the world did microsoft ever allow Steve ''monkey man'' Balmer to ever to be the front man

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In this pic he looks EXACTLY like a Microsoft-obsessed co-worker of mine who bragged about MS all the time. He even bought Vista Ultimate the day it came out.

Makes sense to them, I guess.
 
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