Steve Jobs on Stolen Prototype iPhone: Not Going to Let It Slide.

[reactions]

Some idiots will believe anything they read. PR 101 would suggest that Gizmodo itself and its minions sent Chen any such emails to attempt to create sympathy for Chen. Were you such a sender?

are u kidding?

i'm an iphone fanboy - i would never do such things

my lord is steve jobs

all hail steve jobs!

 

[tingly]

You too, you didn't read the affidavit.

I read it. My point was, "Giving these benefits of doubt, they're still screwed", not "This is what happened, so they're screwed."

And what that law might be?

CCC 2080.10. For criminal code, since the finder knew the guy's Facebook ID, not sending a message over Facebook was blatantly unreasonable.

 

[Atkins]

I read it. My point was, "Giving these benefits of doubt, they're still screwed", not "This is what happened, so they're screwed."
CCC 2080.10. For criminal code, since the finder knew the guy's Facebook ID, not sending a message over Facebook was blatantly unreasonable.

Thanks. I think I got you wrong My bad. I think the 'reasonable time' was way over.

 

[tingly]

That bit of civil code says 60 days. Criminal code is more vague, but it didn't matter.

 

[gnasher729]

im not really sure it qualifies as stolen property, to me anyway. the developer lost it. the guy who found it made a reasonable effort to return it, to no avail. could he have done more to try to return it? sure, but if you got offered 5 grand for it you would have done the exact same thing in selling it.

So in other words, you would have turned into a thief as well. No reasonable effort was made to return the phone - the thief's roommate had no problems whatsoever finding who to call when she was worried that she could be implicated in the theft, so why did he have any problems returning the phone? By the way, California law says that if your reasonable efforts to return it didn't work, you then have to hand it over to the police - otherwise, it is theft.

I certainly got the impression from the D8 video that Steve believes the phone was taken from Powell's bag, not "lost". May also explain why Powell isn't out of a job and Jobs is taking Gizmodo to task for it.

The so-called "finder" has already admitted that he didn't actually find the phone himself. According to his own statement, a patron of the store found a phone, asked around whose phone it was, and the guy claimed it was his. If that is true, and it is his own statement, then he got possession of the phone by fraud. Which would have some severe consequences for the trade secret status of the phone. If I find a phone, and try to return it to its owner, I could easily find out things that were trade secrets without any intent on my side, and trade secret status for these things might be lost. If I get a phone by lying to the original finder, then anything I find out is still a trade secret.

 

[Mal67]

He didn't break hearts for nothing.

I find that photo quite odd......where's the computer? Or the typewriter? Or the.....

 

[0dev]

They need to make a film outta this

 

[Goona]

didn't the guy who found it try to contact apple about it and they ignored him? if so, then it's their own damn fault.

I fail to have sympathy for a mega corporation who made 5 billion dollars in profit in the first quarter of this year.

So go and sympathize with thieves and criminals.

 

[Surreal]

man, we are a little passionate here.

by the letter of the law, i am pretty sure gizmodo was in the wrong. they were just after a story, and they got it. but, they didnt cross ALL of their t's and such. same with the 'finder' who sold it to them.

i don't think apple is wrong for pressing the matter, and i don't think that the finder is a horrible person. a little stupid for not having gone the extra mile to avoid the wrath of a multinational corporation, but not a horrible person. he thought he could make a quick buck. he was incorrect.

 

[tkingart]

I don't blame Steve J. I'd be pissed too. I'd want to get those back for what they did, but let there be no mistake in the potential risk that it could be perceived as revenge, and making an example out of those involved, to defame and destroy everyone's lives/careers that were involved over a redesigned phone, even though the mistake began at the hands of an Apple engineer. I imagine the advice to let it slide is because that this could go to dark places.

My advice would be that Apple move forward and stay focused right now, and that to err is human.

 

[PBG4 Dude]

I don't blame Steve J. I'd be pissed too. I'd want to get those back for what they did, but let there be no mistake in the potential risk that it could be perceived as revenge, and making an example out of those involved, to defame and destroy everyone's lives/careers that were involved over a redesigned phone, even though the mistake began at the hands of an Apple engineer. I imagine the advice to let it slide is because that this could go to dark places.

My advice would be that Apple move forward and stay focused right now, and that to err is human.

Probably why they turned it over to local law enforcement. This is now a criminal matter. Apple isn't driving the bus anymore, the DA is.

 

[CFreymarc]

Just remember that we haven't heard the full story, just lots of tech news coverage that, given their track record, is probably as wrong as it is right. Wait until the whole story is told, and only then draw judgment.

You have that right. There are three sides to any story: his side, her side and the truth.

Keep in mind, this is not going to be big guy vs. little guy at all. The so called "little guy" has a lot of friends that are going to have a field day, probably some on pro bono with personal issues toward Steve Jobs.

These attorneys are going to have a field day issuing subpoenas around the Cupertino campus when this comes to a head. Lunch at Outback and BJs is going to be an adventure!

 

[ChrisGonzales90]

if I found a lost prototype of course I'd check it out. But as far as taking a video and posting it up for the whole world to see? No. Taking it apart? HELL NO.

If a call to apple won't beleive me and they refuse to listen as I give them the numbers I'd personally go to the apple campus and return it.

 

[stationstops]

Aside from the fact that you've completely missed the fact that these "journalists" committed a crime...

Are you really saying that Apple should cater to Adobe and Microsoft for support they've been given in the past? And how, exactly, did Apple take a poop on Bill Gates? Moreover, I'm sure Apple's stockholders would love to hear how Apple was going to make stupid decisions like supporting Flash on their devices "just because".

Jobs popped on Gates by portraying him as a bubbling idiot in apples primary campaign for three years.

While gates was forming the largest philanthropy on earth with warren buffet and working to stop malaria.

 

[AidenShaw]

While gates was forming the largest philanthropy on earth with warren buffet and working to stop malaria.

But Jobs was working on a phone that was a couple of mm thinner than the last one....

Are you saying that saving millions of lives is a higher calling than shaving a couple of mm off an expensive phone?

 

[taskmanager]

Hmm apple equivalent of bsod on stage? Maybe it was an inside job. lol Jason Chen turned haxor

 

[0dev]

But Jobs was working on a phone that was a couple of mm thinner than the last one....

Are you saying that saving millions of lives is a higher calling than shaving a couple of mm off an expensive phone?

That's the funniest thing I've read today, I thank you