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I think the thing that so many liked about Steve, his showmanship and ability to get people excited about products, is never going to be duplicated / replicated again at Apple. Tim is no doubt a great and effective leader, but you can’t replace the energy and authenticity that a company founder like Steve had.

It was true for Walmart back when Sam passed - I sold to them back before he died and although the company grew leaps and bounds after his passing, it was never the same, as the human connection we make to these personalities goes away, when they pass. We just need to be thankful for the moments in time that we had with them.
 
Apple wouldn't exist without a great many factors. Steve Wozniak's influence is probably the most understated, as he was the actual brains behind Apple's earliest products.
We tend to forget one of the most important people at Next and later primary figure in the development of MacOS X, that is Avie Tevanian. That OS is what saved Apple besides Jobs management return.
 
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Typical response from a techie type. Woz wanted to give everything away. Jobs was the business genius, the visionary, the one who wanted to change the world. Woz was his Morlock, the guy in the back room toiling away. Yes, without Woz Apple wouldn’t have existed either but Jobs was the one who literally willed Apple into existence.
Bruh there were 3 whom willed Apple into existence.
1 left VERY early on.

Woz and Jobs did the work, I'd say Markola brought the 'will' as he was the venture capitalist. Both Woz and Jobs made Apple what it was, they both did the work, bled, sweat and tears.

After Woz plane accident he realized being the 'richest man alive' didn't amount to anything and wanted to help others learn and teach. And after the IPO had issues/words with Jobs choice with others and left.

So please don't poorly summarize the factual history and reduce Woz as nothing. We know the visionary Jobs was and always has been yet please do not diminish Woz significant importance and role! He didn't want to GIVE away everything.
 
Good reminder to go to a doctor. Steve Jobs self healed. Not to say he would have lived but may have extended his life so he could have fired Jonny Ive himself.

I've been a side witness to someone VERY close to a good friend whom chose to 'self heal' themselves after diagnosis of cancer - a different kind of course, yet terminal non-the-same.

Remember it's still anyone's choice to self-heal but please consider the pain and damage it does to those whom love, care and think about you - irregardless of their distance to you or if you didn't see eye to eye anymore on sharing a life with one-another.

Real love does NOT just vanish.
 
There's very little of SJ ideology and innovation left at Apple, they've moved on. SJ would probably agree that's a good thing, he wouldn't want them to remain in the past.:rolleyes:

He didn't want them to remain in the past, or to think "What would Steve do?" because he'd seen that happen to Disney post-Walt, and was very clear with his instructions to avoid that.
 
I don’t idolize Steve Jobs as many others do, but I do often wonder how far along Siri would be today if Steve had not passed away. Yesterday was Siri‘s birthday, but Apple made no mention of it, which should be one of its most important and often improved features, if only to honor Steve.
 
Always seems odd how we celebrate the deceased's deaths instead of birthdays. Who wants to remember when someone was really sick and dying? Why not celebrate their life on the day they were born? Seems more logical to me.
 
Let's move on from worshipping just one guy. Yes, he was very important. But there are tens of thousands of employees who work at Apple.

Let's not turn cultish in worshipping Jobs.
Hard to do, because without Jobs, there's no Apple. A lot of those employees could have been swapped out, but not Jobs. He was the alpha and the omega. You only have Apple because of him (yes, even Woz could have been replaced).
 
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Let's move on from worshipping just one guy. Yes, he was very important. But there are tens of thousands of employees who work at Apple.

Let's not turn cultish in worshipping Jobs.
Showing respect to one of the most important people in the history of the company isn't "worshipping" him. Again, if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all.
 
I thought I considered myself such a huge Apple fan, but I never watched the film or the biography, and I had no idea Jobs passed away from pancreatic cancer. I also didn’t know it would ever hit home. Two weeks ago, my Mom got diagnosed with pancreatic cancer that’s spread to the liver. Now I truly understand how serious and deadly this disease can be. All the money in the world for treatment can’t guarantee you more time, but I think the lesson we can learn from Steve is that, obviously, fine is precious, and you don’t need a hundred years to make your mark on this planet.

Shocked me to find out that’s what he passed from, but my moms prepared to fight, and there have been slow, small advances. Hopefully everything works out good. I normally don’t post anything personal online, but this post just rang out to me. Stay safe and stay healthy everyone.
 
I thought I considered myself such a huge Apple fan, but I never watched the film or the biography, and I had no idea Jobs passed away from pancreatic cancer. I also didn’t know it would ever hit home. Two weeks ago, my Mom got diagnosed with pancreatic cancer that’s spread to the liver. Now I truly understand how serious and deadly this disease can be. All the money in the world for treatment can’t guarantee you more time, but I think the lesson we can learn from Steve is that, obviously, fine is precious, and you don’t need a hundred years to make your mark on this planet.

Shocked me to find out that’s what he passed from, but my moms prepared to fight, and there have been slow, small advances. Hopefully everything works out good. I normally don’t post anything personal online, but this post just rang out to me. Stay safe and stay healthy everyone.
Best wishes to your mom, I'm sure she will put up a heck of a fight.
 
I don’t idolize Steve Jobs as many others do, but I do often wonder how far along Siri would be today if Steve had not passed away. Yesterday was Siri‘s birthday, but Apple made no mention of it, which should be one of its most important and often improved features, if only to honor Steve.

They don’t mention Siri because it’s truly dreadful I think. Overtaken by voice assistants from Amazon and Google which is rather embarrassing to be brutally honest.
 
I don’t idolize Steve Jobs as many others do, but I do often wonder how far along Siri would be today if Steve had not passed away. Yesterday was Siri‘s birthday, but Apple made no mention of it, which should be one of its most important and often improved features, if only to honor Steve.

Tim Cook just doesn't get the potential of Siri. But he's not a visionary, he's an operations guy, and so it's languished under his leadership. I have a lot of respect for Steve Jobs, at least in terms of his talent, but the biggest problem with Apple today is not that Steve Jobs isn't there, but that there's no visionary on the executive team to replace that "big picture" thinking and get the company laser focused around that. Steve Jobs played an important curatorial role not only with regards to the creative output of the company, but also in what products they chose to focus on.

Always seems odd how we celebrate the deceased's deaths instead of birthdays. Who wants to remember when someone was really sick and dying? Why not celebrate their life on the day they were born? Seems more logical to me.

Agreed, it always seems morbid to me to focus on the day of someone's death.
 
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Steve Jobs was Apple’s savior from its pending demise… there is no more saviors to come back and save Apple… and their slow demise is starting to show more every day. The stuff that was in the pipeline when Steve passed has been flushed out and the coat tails ridden as long as they could be... Apple decided to allow the Wall Street based parasites run the show instead of the creative and innovative types and that decision is being reflected in low quality products instead of being the best in class, as it was in the past. How long can they continue without having a creative and innovative leader and executive team is the question i have.

RIP Steve Jobs - one of the last true visionaries of Silicon Valley!
I worry about this a lot. I loved Mac computers when I was a kid (early 90's). Our computer lab was full of the Macintosh SE. I wrote my first book report on a Macintosh LC and watched the company slowly collapse as they licensed their OS to Motorola. Over the past 11 years, you can see changes that Jobs would not have been ok with. It's sad to see and hard to say. Don't know who can come to the rescue, but I hope someone does. Apple was once a great company, and while it's still... good, it's not great.
 
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I find it amusing the people call SJ an "innovator" - he was a charismatic marketer, working off the back of the real geniuses in his employ. Apple is a much more open company that it was under SJ, and the world and market is much different now. I don't think for a second that Apple would be more "innovative" if he were still alive, just more convinced that we were by SJ's savvy marketing prowess.
 
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