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To this day I’ll watch old YouTube video of him because I’m such a stupid nerd. I watch a lot of videos of him and then Norm MacDonald lol.
 
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I worry about this a lot. I loved Mac computers when I was a kid (early 90's). Our computer lab was full of the Macintosh SE. I wrote my first book report on a Macintosh LC and watched the company slowly collapse as they licensed their OS to Motorola. Over the past 11 years, you can see changes that Jobs would not have been ok with. It's sad to see and hard to say. Don't know who can come to the rescue, but I hope someone does. Apple was once a great company, and while it's still... good, it's not great.
The only one who possibly could come back and make an attempt is Ivy… but the Wall Street parasites currently making policy and product decisions would have to be expelled and let the creative ones run the show.
 
Always seems odd how we celebrate the deceased's deaths instead of birthdays. Who wants to remember when someone was really sick and dying? Why not celebrate their life on the day they were born? Seems more logical to me.
Mark Twain is quoted as saying “I did not attend his funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it.” There are a lot of people that I would say that about.
 
I find it amusing the people call SJ an "innovator" - he was a charismatic marketer, working off the back of the real geniuses in his employ. Apple is a much more open company that it was under SJ, and the world and market is much different now. I don't think for a second that Apple would be more "innovative" if he were still alive, just more convinced that we were by SJ's savvy marketing prowess.
I disagree - while Steve was no programmer or chip/processor engineer he was very intelligent and knew quality when he saw it. He also knew how to motivate those with the right skill sets to create his visions and dreams in various products, and then do the proper marketing to make them attractive to the masses. He left Apple, started NEXT from scratch, and ended up with what Apple ultimately used for their next great thing… MacOS X - he also in that same time took over Pixar… a creative powerhouse… so he knew how to motivate and encourage creativity and knew how to recognize those who had that talent and surrounded himself with those people… so, he was an innovator in a lot of unconventional ways… when Steve came back to Apple it was on the verge of collapse due to being managed and run by Wall Street parasite types… sugar water sales people, and he resurrected it. Apple is now back in those same crossroads… with Cook and his vampire squid cronies…. The only thing they have had going for them is what was already in pipeline when Steve passed and the coat tails from those things it could ride on… and its showing now. They have lost a lot of creative brain trust that was with Apple… and while you claim they were less open under Steve, i think he had desire to fill the company with highly talented people that had natural skills, not just someone to check a box on a inclusiveness form or survey…
 
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To this day I’ll watch old YouTube video of him because I’m such a stupid nerd. I watch a lot of videos of him and then Norm MacDonald lol.
Are you me? I’ve been on a SJ/Norm binge lately.

I’ve been watching a lot more Stevenotes lately — I do presentations quite often these days, and I always look to Steve’s presentations for inspiration
 
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Are you me? I’ve been on a SJ/Norm binge lately.

I’ve been watching a lot more Stevenotes lately — I do presentations quite often these days, and I always look to Steve’s presentations for inspiration
I generally watch a lot of his old keynotes sometimes just as background noise or to see what made people freak out back in the day.

I've been reading a lot of what everyone is saying here about Apple being somehow on its way out. Just because the keynotes are generally dull and predictable nowadays doesn't reflect how well Apple is doing. I honestly don't foresee Apple losing its edge at all anytime soon. I mean look at Microsoft, they once had a virtual monopoly on operating systems, had more than one OS going at a time (Windows, Windows Mobile, etc) and now they have just 29% of the overall OS market worldwide but are still the third most valuable company in the world after Apple and an oil company. Anyone that thinks Apple is going anywhere is high and needs to look at the Spindler and Amelio days.

I also wonder how Apple would approach product launches nowadays as well if Jobs were around. Back when Steve was around the product pipeline was far smaller and while I do think Apple would be far more secretive today if he were around, they still would have to deal with constant iPhone leaks. I remember when he took the iPhone 4 leak and used that to Apple's advantage in PR. I wonder if the excitement would still be there today now that we all know pretty much the majority of details for the phones especially, and many of the cooler rumors end up being much more conservative products than we had hoped.
 
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Steve Jobs was Apple’s savior from its pending demise… there is no more saviors to come back and save Apple… and their slow demise is starting to show more every day. The stuff that was in the pipeline when Steve passed has been flushed out and the coat tails ridden as long as they could be... Apple decided to allow the Wall Street based parasites run the show instead of the creative and innovative types and that decision is being reflected in low quality products instead of being the best in class, as it was in the past. How long can they continue without having a creative and innovative leader and executive team is the question i have.

RIP Steve Jobs - one of the last true visionaries of Silicon Valley!
What are you even talking about? You know that the vast majority of the people that helped save Apple when Jobs came back are still there right? And in what ways would you like them to innovate? Do you mean that all their competitors copy it anytime Apple enters a new product category? Is making their own chips years ahead of their competition not innovative enough? I think many people are forgetting that Apple only made one product that everyone looked at the minute it came out and said "Oh my God I can't believe that's real" and it's the first iPhone.

There wasn't one before it, and more than likely, there won't be one that tops it. Now true Apple had a lot of nonstop hits for a while, mostly in the form of iPods, but even when they made several new iPods every year some of those were misses. The quality of their products might not be as good as saying they were, 20 years ago when they were only making a percent of the computers and devices they make now, but I feel the same can be said for any company today. I'd argue some of these quality issues have been taken care of though thanks to them making their own chips versus using Intel, and I would still much rather use macOS and iOS over any other OS for a plethora of reasons and one of them being the quality of the product they make.
 
MacRumors used to have archives of its forum posts dating back to around 2001. There you could read about all the really stupid things that Apple was doing. Some are still relevant, most people still don’t like the actual Apple Mouse, and they didn’t like them then either. But it looks like MacRumors doesn’t have those forums available any more. Removing support for Adobe Flash animation, getting rid of built in CD drives, never actually providing BLURAY drives, memory limitations, gaming support (or lack of it) computer main hard drive Lack of options and keeping physical platter drives long after everyone else offered SSD are all things that people conveniently forget about when talking about Steve Jobs.

He was right about some of those choices, and by no means have I listed everything that caused a controversy. And some technology eventually made the issue superfluous, and I’m thinking about hard drives and CD/BluRay as standard equipment and not something that you needed to buy as an external and non-Apple component. And he did leave Apple in the 1990’s, some say that he left and some say that he was pushed. In the late 1990’s after Steve took over again, Apple became the powerful company that it is today because of decisions that Steve Job was behind. But he wasn’t perfect, not all of his choices were smart business moves, and everyone wasn’t constantly singing his praises.

Few companies have 2 farsighted CEO’s who follow one right after the other. Businesses are conservative and Steve Jobs was disruptive. He was right more than he was wrong but lots of egos where probably broken along the way.

Look at the major successions of computer related companies since the mid 80’s: Compaq and Digital are now just names and not a computer manufacturer, IBM is no longer synonymous with desktop computing, the Steve Ballmer era at Microsoft isn’t held up as an example of a good transition from founder to a new CEO…. But Apple has done very well under Tim Cook. Do I think Tim is the visionary that Jobs was? No. Do I think that Apple has managed this transition better than other companies have managed theirs? Yes.

Hmm I remember these threads, mostly likely in the archive section.

I do recall apple being the first to offer ssd in laptops, even if proprietary, in the 2nd gen MBA 11/13” Intel models.

Still offering hybrid drives or “fusion” was an asinine move and penny pinching to be honest, never agreed to that.

No Blu-ray wasn’t really needed much beyond those that used blue-ray players but pirating movies was difficult for the platform very easily back in BitTorrent days (crap quality or messed up audio like MP3’s). PS3/4/5 used Bali-Ray while XBox took a long time to do the same.
 
These were definitely game changing phones that paved the road to what we see in phones today.. Who would have used glass screens and backs? It was way too expensive. But there's always a way.
Still have an iPhone 4S! Incredibly solid and not too heavy and just a solid beast even when dropped form waist high barely a dent nor chip or scratch.

Since the. Only my 12 mini has stood up the same after a few drops on wooden floor. Just a tiny knock left.

I still get a chill watching the iPhone OG launch. A phone, an iPod, and internet communications device. Not to mention the fun and incredibly decades forward thinking moments of interviews and product launches like the TiBook.
 
I think the thing that so many liked about Steve, his showmanship and ability to get people excited about products, is never going to be duplicated / replicated again at Apple. Tim is no doubt a great and effective leader, but you can’t replace the energy and authenticity that a company founder like Steve had.

It was true for Walmart back when Sam passed - I sold to them back before he died and although the company grew leaps and bounds after his passing, it was never the same, as the human connection we make to these personalities goes away, when they pass. We just need to be thankful for the moments in time that we had with them.

I think Steve was probably the greatest marketer going…everything he touched seemed like magic!
He chose Tim Cook and I seem to recall him saying to not run Apple they way they thought he would want it to be run but to do what Tim thought would be best.

I got my first MacBook Air in Oct 2011 & I remember crying when he died …thank you Steve ❤️
 
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Soon that will lead to products and info packages with 'how to use AI' etc. Some marketers will jump on the AI train, some will watch the train go by and some won't even hear the whistle until the train hits them.
 
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Fall 1984, my 128k Macintosh, I’m using it as engineering undergrad
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RIP Mr Jobs

Fwiw, at home I’ve only bought Apple products
 
Steve Jobs was Apple’s savior from its pending demise… there is no more saviors to come back and save Apple… and their slow demise is starting to show more every day.
Steve was a mediocre programmer and engineer. He put together a team and gave them a vision of what makes a great user-friendly computer. Apple Inc then built the Mac, not Steve's permanent presence in every room. The company can carry on/out their founders vision, just as they did before. Arguably they've also been freed from Jobs more questionable decisions and character traits. The new iMacs are insanely great and Steve Jobs is turning in his grave to see them.
 
Tim lacks any charisma...
And right there is the sore-thumb difference between Steve Jobs and the MS2.0 we have running Apple now.

Take a look at any Stevenote. Steve made you believe in the product/software/service being demonstrated. They were "choreographed spontaneity" in that they were endlessly rehearsed before the keynote but they had an element of improv to them. Stevenotes were things I and many others looked forward to.

Contrast that with the cookie-cutter drone-a-thons that pass for "keynotes today". Tim is rarely demonstrating anything, prefering to have his people speak for him. I can't say what else his speeches entail because it's outside of the political section. Tim has never given off anything close to the "I believe in this product." vibe that Jobs did.

Cook is nothing more than a bean counter. Apple died with Steve.
 
Great visionary and perfectionist. Nobody sold Apple products better. He used to bring genuine excitement to new products.

Shame since he died Apple has been dying a slow death. Over priced lacklustre products and an executive team who only care about the bottom line. There’s nobody to turn the tide this time.
 
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Steve died WAAAAY to early. There was no need for him to die when he'd did.
Look it up.
 
Steve Jobs by all accounts was an jerk to work for. He said the Internet would never take off in 90’s.. And he arrogantly thought he knew more than his Dr.s and ending up essentially committing suicide. Thankfully he passed, so Tim Cook could take Apple to the next level.

Steve died WAAAAY to early. There was no need for him to die when he'd did.
Look it up
Most valuable company in the world and continuing to set records, pretty good for a dead company.
Actually Apple became the “Most Valuable Company in the world” or close, because Tim Cook took it to the next level. Jobs arrogance and ignorance ran out of time.

Great visionary and perfectionist. Nobody sold Apple products better. He used to bring genuine excitement to new products.

Shame since he died Apple has been dying a slow death. Over priced lacklustre products and an executive team who only care about the bottom line. There’s nobody to turn the tide this time.
After this “perfectionist” killed himself, Tim Cook showed what real Tech leadership is.
 
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Steve Jobs by all accounts was an jerk to work for. He said the Internet would never take off in 90’s.. And he arrogantly thought he knew more than his Dr.s and ending up essentially committing suicide. Thankfully he passed, so Tim Cook could take Apple to the next level.



Actually Apple became the “Most Valuable Company in the world” or close, because Tim Cook took it to the next level. Jobs arrogance and ignorance ran out of time.


After this “perfectionist” killed himself, Tim Cook showed what real Tech leadership is.

Looks like you went all out with the reaction magnet on this post. Steve Jobs was known to be a particularly unpleasant chap, but no need to celebrate someone dying of cancer. It’s crass and unnecessary.
 
I think Steve was probably the greatest marketer going…everything he touched seemed like magic!
He chose Tim Cook and I seem to recall him saying to not run Apple they way they thought he would want it to be run but to do what Tim thought would be best.

I got my first MacBook Air in Oct 2011 & I remember crying when he died …thank you Steve ❤️
A roommate of mine in college, back in the mid-’80’s, got a Macintosh 128k and it was such a game changer, especially given the clunky mainframe I was used to using at school. The WYSIWYG user interface drove friends of mine in computer science absolutely mad, as they tried to suggest programming simple things like how you write a document was better than simply seeing the formatted document on the screen as it would be when printed. That and the fact that it was easily portable made them say it was just a toy, but I knew better. It was the future. And this was still a point in time where I actually had statistics classes that taught me how to run a punch-card computer, so Apple (and Steve) were definitely ahead of the rest of the world as far as computer science.
 
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