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I don't think you guys appreciate the vision. Computing is NOT just desktops and laptops anymore! The future is mobile whether you like it or not! These little 'side projects' such as the iPod, iPhone, and now iPad have all made the Macs better and opened Apple up to a market and user base that would never have been possible before. You need to take off the blinders and see the strategy!

I can see it fine, I just don't have to like it. Sorry. My recent hardware upgrade dollars were given to other companies and $29 to Apple for software. Next time I'll likely be moving totally out of the Apple orbit. But Apple doesn't care that they're losing 25-year customers like me, so what can you say?
 
I can see it fine, I just don't have to like it. Sorry. My recent hardware upgrade dollars were given to other companies and $29 to Apple for software. Next time I'll likely be moving totally out of the Apple orbit. But Apple doesn't care that they're losing 25-year customers like me, so what can you say?

Sorry to hear that. Sadly you are probably right, they probably don't care they are losing you. Judging by the fact that they are gaining and increasing user base exponentially with the current strategy. Over half of all people who purchase a Mac have never had one before as I'm sure you know!

I know Apple is not perfect, and I have my gripes. My main concern right now as a video producer are their pro products like Final Cut Studio. Even Apple has expressed concern lately over the pro area not doing so well. If Apple ever bailed out of FSC and the Mac Pro arena I would be very very very sad. It would effect what I do for a living to a very large degree!

So tell me what you would like to see that Apple is not delivering exactly!
 
Do tweets contain any metadata that could be used to find out more info about the device sending them? I know that certain apps keep track of things like that through ad agencies.

I'd like to quote this again to see if anyone has any deeper understanding of tweets or the programs that send them.
 
So tell me what you would like to see that Apple is not delivering exactly!

This is getting pretty far off topic now, but mostly things we're not likely to see. A midrange desktop would have topped the list, but that's kind of taken care of now. Beyond that I'd like to see an end to the obsession with "thin" and have Apple produce some really state of the art laptops. Then I'd like to see more concentration on the OS. Not that SL is bad, but for a 22-month development it didn't bring much over Leopard (even considering the "under the hood" nature of many of the changes). I'd for sure like to see ZFS or some equivalent to replace HFS+ and full NTFS support. A greater emphasis on their pro-level apps would be nice, and so would a priority on implementing new I/O technologies.
 
When I read this, first thing I thought was, SJ wanted the Apple/WSJ meetings to be secret.


I don't think there's anything to see here.


"CEO of multibillion dollar tech corporation is a bit snappish!!!"

Isn't that a given?
 
"CEO of multibillion dollar tech corporation is a bit snappish!!!"

Isn't that a given?

Not at all. There are plenty of CEOs (and Generals) who aren't jerks. For that matter, think of famous basketball or football coaches... some are blustery and self-centered, some are total gentlemen and yet win just as much or more.

As for CEOs, it seems to me that the good ones usually worked their way up by way of their own hard work.

The ruder types had to use other people as stepping stones. Not knowing how to do or create anything themselves, they instead gather people who know how to do, from business to design, and keep them mostly in the background.
 
The need to maintain secrecy is greater than ever. Do you see how quickly Chinese companies churn out rip offs of new iPod designs?

Where do you think the parts are being made and where will the ipads will be assembled?
USA, Canada, Germany, France, someones garage?

CHINA.......
 
I think Jobs is getting a little like Howard Hughes, its becoming borderline psychopathic!

Sad!

No he's not and no it's not. If someone signs an NDA they need to shut their pieholes. It's not encumbent upon SJ to do everything out in the open. The idiot should have respected the NDA, been appreciative of the opportunity to get a sneak peak, and kept his stupid snide tweet to himself.
 
A few people I remember from back in college who were always tripping acid? Well, not much positive to say about their lives at this point in time either.

reallly? all the acid-heads at my college are now mostly lawyers... and making enough to buy and sell you all day long.

and now they just drink. alot.

maybe your opinion is more because of attending a crappy college, hm? :p

also, equating forgery and fraud to "really liking secrets" is a pretty far stretch. my guess for the culprit, again, is the crappy college.
 
How is he a liability, exactly?

well, executives of potential partner companies might be less inclined to deal with sj if he's going to go apesh** over seemingly minor incidents. they might prefer to do business with companies with a more open cuture (such as google)

obviously not a reflection on product quality, but bad pr over all-
 
Well, I don't believe any of us have personal relationships with Steve Jobs. Any random second hand account read in the media can not be taken as absolute fact. To come to the conclusion that a VERY private person is a "jerk", or "psychopathic", seems ridiculous to me. And honestly, what's the point of putting that negativity out there?

Speculation is one thing. To declare it as fact is another.

Anytime that I've met or worked with someone that I'd been told would be difficult, arrogant, crazy, a flake etc. It was never the case. Any well known person that I had negative preconceived ideas about (mainly through the media) have turned out to be QUITE the opposite in person.

I've also worked with people I'd given no prior thought to, that unfortunately were nasty and incredibly unpleasant. FWIW, most of these types were lesser knowns that were superstars in their own mind.


My point earlier, was that when the head of a multibillion dollar corporation has to wheel and deal with the heads of other multibillion dollar corps. behind closed doors.....it's not hard to imagine things often becoming QUITE tense. No matter how much of a gentleman/woman they are. Everyone wants to protect their interests and has a lot on the line.

I don't think these actions *always* reflect on a person's true character outside that setting.
 
Uh, I think you totally missed my point .....

All I was trying to say is, it's probably a big mistake to believe one can determine the personality/disposition of an individual by trying to "label" them based on their claimed religious beliefs and/or propensity to do certain drugs when they were younger.

Certainly, just being a member of the "hippie generation" in the 60's doesn't tell you much of anything -- since a huge number of those people got older and became a part of the very "establishment" they claimed to be against. I've seen a LOT of former hippie types who drive BMW's and work as stock brokers, CEOs of companies, etc. etc.

And I wasn't "equating forgery and fraud" to "really liking secrets" either. How could you, really? It was simply one example of a person I knew really well who claimed to be Buddhist in faith, yet they had no problem reconciling that belief system with an ability to justify their illegal activities. If that's possible for a person, it's SURELY possible to claim to be Buddhist and yet have an arrogant, self-centered/self-important attitude, and go around belittling others.


reallly? all the acid-heads at my college are now mostly lawyers... and making enough to buy and sell you all day long.

and now they just drink. alot.

maybe your opinion is more because of attending a crappy college, hm? :p

also, equating forgery and fraud to "really liking secrets" is a pretty far stretch. my guess for the culprit, again, is the crappy college.
 
well, executives of potential partner companies might be less inclined to deal with sj if he's going to go apesh** over seemingly minor incidents. they might prefer to do business with companies with a more open cuture (such as google)

obviously not a reflection on product quality, but bad pr over all-

The other business executives (content providers) are not very bright, otherwise they would show Apple to the door right away. What they all misunderstand: Apple will destroy their business in the end for the sake of selling gadgets.
 
You know what's sad? For example, the Chinese rip-off iPhones were way better than the Apple ones. They had a removable battery, worked on any network, had spots for SD cards, etc... I mean, the list goes on. Plus, they were $400 cheaper.

If the Chinese can make a better version of the iPhone in a few weeks, what does that say about Apple? :(

I take it you own one and are happy with it? Cause I've played with a couple rip off chinese iPhones (friends who couldnt afford real one bought) and they were a joke, so wat if they cram all that stuff into a phone that doesnt even work properly, no multitouch, response was bad (you couldnt slide the screen left or right if you did it too quickly) I literally had to scroll across the screen at 1cm per second or it'd just lock up.
 
Again, I'd like to submit the idea that some programs report metadata such as OS, or even types of components, for marketing and ad tracking reasons. If there are tweeting apps that do this (which there probably are), jobs would have every right to be pissed off.
 
Again, I'd like to submit the idea that some programs report metadata such as OS, or even types of components, for marketing and ad tracking reasons. If there are tweeting apps that do this (which there probably are), jobs would have every right to be pissed off.

I thought we'd already established this wasn't the case with tweets.
 
well, executives of potential partner companies might be less inclined to deal with sj if he's going to go apesh** over seemingly minor incidents. they might prefer to do business with companies with a more open cuture (such as google)

obviously not a reflection on product quality, but bad pr over all-

That outcome seems unlikely. Potential partner companies like to make money.
 
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