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I think this depends on the headline and the facts doesn't it?

'STEVE'S MAD CONTROL ISSUES EXTEND TO CENSORSHIP OF TWEETS FROM iPAD!!!!'

is a bit different to

'Industry Insider Contravenes Confidential Business Meeting Just To Look Cool To His Twitter Followers'

The truth is probably somewhere in between.
 
Yelling at an online executive editor when you're trying to sell him and his friends on your device, is pretty lame.

Not a smart way to negotiate with hard nosed New Yorkers, who must already see Jobs, with his Valley Girlish "awesome" statements, as a full-of-himself West Coast flake to begin with.

LOL. Your hatred of Apple makes you post the most illogical things.
 
It was the WSJ Online Executive Editor, who is charge of online media presentation. He is arguably the single most important person at the company to impress with your multimedia delivery device and cooperative skills.

The online managing editors under him are the ones who make sure the website has the latest news, the videos and other multimedia to go with them, along with charts, photos, chat and feedback areas and you name it.

In other words, just the area that Jobs is trying the hardest to create as a new revenue source via the iPad... and the very reason he was in NYC.


And the fact that a guy with such a position would do something so stupidly incompetent is astounding.

Clearly many people here have not worked at any serious level of business. Suffice it to say what this guy did was way out of line and 100% unprofessional.

Steve had every right to get mad at him. It should not have even been an issue. It should have never crossed this guys mind to do something so stupid. He should be fired for showing such poor judgment. I mean this really is horrible judgment on his part.

It is not just "oh well this is just a tweet no big deal." That is what people who will never be a managing editor of anything say. When you get to that level, you know better, and you should know how to behave and act in such circumstances, and that anyone at the WSJ at that level would do that is pretty disconcerting and to me is a blackeye on their entire organization.
 
I thought we'd already established this wasn't the case with tweets.

The tweet doesn't matter, its the app that sends the tweet. There are plenty of apps in the appstore that send all kinds of information out. Thats how you get those ad graphs of what model devices and OS's are being used.
 
LOL. Your hatred of Apple makes you post the most illogical things.

Nice try at handwaving. I don't hate Apple. I do dislike tantrum throwing bosses. Didn't like it in the Army. Don't like it as a civilian.

And I can tell you from many years of experience as a visiting Southerner who's been part of many high-status meetings up here in the Northeast, exactly what many New Yorkers think of West Coasters to begin with.

Jobs throwing a childish fit and stupidly drawing more attention to the tweet, would've just reinforced their concept of him.

Which is why you didn't see the editor's boss make him post an apology. Instant, he commented on Apple's "general paranoia about news coverage ". The lack of an apology tells us a lot.
 
Nice try at handwaving. I don't hate Apple. I do dislike tantrum throwing bosses. Didn't like it in the Army. Don't like it as a civilian.

And I can tell you from many years of experience as a visiting Southerner who's been part of many high-status meetings up here in the Northeast, exactly what many New Yorkers think of West Coasters to begin with.

Jobs throwing a childish fit and stupidly drawing more attention to the tweet, would've just reinforced their concept of him.

Which is why you didn't see the editor's boss make him post an apology. Instant, he commented on Apple's "general paranoia about news coverage ". The lack of an apology tells us a lot.
Perhaps he had an actual reason to be pissed about the tweet?
 
Apple needs a new CEO. One that does not suffer from paranoia and who is not acting like he was still in the 1980s when the Internet and open communication flow where still stuff for science fiction movies.

It's 2010, Steve. Your version of 1984 does not belong here.


I Agree 100%, Jobs has passed his expiry date and should be replaced, he is more of an hindrance than any help.
I have respect for the Apple name and absolutely no respect for Mr. Jobs.... If he behaves in this manner for the stupidest, tiny, insignificant incidents with major partners i'm sure he wont last too long.
The thought of buying an iPad has never entered my mind and never will with apples stupidly overpowered app filtering.
Ill wait until a practical tablet comes out, not materialistic...oh wait The Adam, and look at that it has flash support... that must have been really hard to implement.
 
I Agree 100%, Jobs has passed his expiry date and should be replaced, he is more of an hindrance than any help.
I have respect for the Apple name and absolutely no respect for Mr. Jobs.... If he behaves in this manner for the stupidest, tiny, insignificant incidents with major partners i'm sure he wont last too long.
The thought of buying an iPad has never entered my mind and never will with apples stupidly overpowered app filtering.
Ill wait until a practical tablet comes out, not materialistic...oh wait The Adam, and look at that it has flash support... that must have been really hard to implement.

You guys really need to reevaluate the criteria by which you judge the performance of CEOs - because that's not how it works.
 
You guys really need to reevaluate the criteria by which you judge the performance of CEOs - because that's not how it works.

I do agree with this... Although CEOs and their 'quality' / proficiency / modus operandi vary a lot, the CEO of a company like Apple puts a lot at risk to push agendas and strategies thorugh. Confidentiality is a huge risk and trusted partnerships are paramount.

If Steve needs something to be deleted, it must be for a damn good reason. Surely we all think he's seasoned enough not to be throwing little tantrums...
 
Two wrongs don't make a right

Seems to me that Alan Murray should've used a little more discretion given the situation, and Steve Jobs should've tempered his temper (if he was indeed furious). Sounds like neither side covered themselves in glory.
 
The need to maintain secrecy is greater than ever. Do you see how quickly Chinese companies churn out rip offs of new iPod designs?

The only thing the Chinese can glean from a single Twitter post is that a) it has internet access and b) you can type stuff on it.

Jobs should calm down a little, he's starting to harm Apple's image, IMO.
 
Steve Jobs is a Pr!ck. We all know this.

But frankly it is because he has this nature that Apple got built up to the brand it is today.

You need ruthless people at the helm. Apple as a company is a pretty decent company and I will always love them. But I also know for a company to do well you might need someone at the helm you do not particularly like.

Steve Wozniak will always be my favourite of the Apple founders and he embodies the spirit of the company. But despite this I would take Jobs heading it over him because it would not be the global company today that it is.
 
Someone needs to kick Jobs in the nuts.

"Not feeling so god-like now, are we Mr. Jobs."


Actually Stevie was pissed because the guy was going to make a Video-Skype Call...oh I shouldn't have said that. Nevermind.
 
I think you gents are simply wrong. Apple (Steve) wants Apple to be sufficiently wholesome to not run afoul of any cultural norms or barriers with the PRODUCT.

Until they adopt an adults only segment, or better yet, a differently branded variant of iTUNES, this is the inevitable clash between marketing geeks for a corporation, and developers and users accustomed to an unfettered internet.

iPad is not unfettered. It is closed. It will become less closed over time but the opt-in standards for "porn" (there's a widely defined term) will be higher than most. The good news is when (not if) sexually explicit content is actually available for iPad and iPhone, it will be in an environment where the counter-arguments are moot.

One thing I will say however. Steve, please hurry. We need less noise.

Rocketman
 
Ah, good to see this thread is still nothing but a pissing and moaning bitchfest against jobs. It's cool that you guys don't seem to enjoy anything other than echo-chambers against a man that has little to no impact on your life.

Ever think there may have been a reason Jobs didn't want anything sent from the iPad (as I've asked several times now)?
 
Yelling at an online executive editor when you're trying to sell him and his friends on your device, is pretty lame.

Not a smart way to negotiate with hard nosed New Yorkers, who must already see Jobs, with his Valley Girlish "awesome" statements, as a full-of-himself West Coast flake to begin with.

Being a New Yawka myself, I agree with that 99%. :D

NY is a tough town. No question. But the hellabucks associated with Steve and his girlishness would probably let him get away with being himself, even in this tough town. ;)
 
Being a New Yawka myself, I agree with that 99%. :D

NY is a tough town. No question. But the hellabucks associated with Steve and his girlishness would probably let him get away with being himself, even in this tough town. ;)

Have you not noticed how many people use Macs here... and we have 4 apple stores here, all of which are still really crowded. I think NY'ers will tolerate anything about Apple, just as long as they can actually get a genius bar appointment.
 
Have you not noticed how many people use Macs here... and we have 4 apple stores here, all of which are still really crowded. I think NY'ers will tolerate anything about Apple, just as long as they can actually get a genius bar appointment.

New York is full of artists, who tend toward Macs.

It's also a city that embraced the term "metrosexual"... and the iPhone is a metrosexual's dream device: pretty and simple and gratifying.
 
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