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The notebook is much bigger, heavier and has no touchscreen. Meanwhile, there is no technical reason why the iPad can't have a cursor, mouse and a proper OS.

I'm still waiting for mouse, keyboard, external display, DVD player, printer support (dot matrix), and toaster oven connectivity (scsi) for the iPhone. A turntable accessory would be a bonus, but I'm not holding my breath.
 
"It will come"

So will death. Personally I'm waiting for the option of a proper cursor (so you can add a mouse) and a proper OS. Cue the fanboys dribbling that I "don't get it", new paradigm, blah blah blah.

You don't need to wait, Jailbreak.

Oh wait let me guess, you want full OS X, mouse and keyboard. You know Apple already makes something like that. It's called a notebook, they have several. You should try one.

Do the world a favor, don't think, don't guess. You are ill equipped. "Apple already has something like that?" Now they have another, the iPad. Head over to Engadget and learn something.

The notebook is much bigger, heavier and has no touchscreen. Meanwhile, there is no technical reason why the iPad can't have a cursor, mouse and a proper OS.

Correct

You want a touch screen and mouse support? You do realize this is Apple and that is never going to happen on this device. Perhaps the iMac and notebooks in the future but not on a device that was made specifically for multi-touch. You're dreaming of some fantasy device that won't happen. It's like asking for a 4 cylinder on a Ferrari so you can get better gas mileage. A Ferrari is not designed for gas mileage it desgned for speed. The iPad is designed for multi-touch not a mouse. There is no technical reason why a Ferrari can't have great gas mileage. Too bad it was not designed for that purpose.

The fantasy came true for people who are jailbroken, once again no need to wait for Apple.

Why would you want to lug around a mouse with a portable tablet? You'd have to bring along some sort of stand and have somewhere to set it down.

Don't worry about what other people want to lug around, it does not concern you. Your stand does not hold water in light of the Apple case, that would be the stand.

And why would you want only 1 input trigger when you have 10? Apple would never do that. Not only would the whole OS and philosophy change, but every app developer needs to completely rethink their interface strategies too.[/quote]

Again, don't speculate on why someone wants "1 input trigger", just because you can't see beyond the first 2 minutes in front of you does not mean it will not be useful to someone else. You do make a vaild point about developers however.

Yes, anything that the device supports you are required by law to carry with you: keyboard, tv, speakers...

Using ten fingers doesn't mean they are more accurate than a mouse, in fact they are profoundly less accurate.

Correct

Just for all you mouse naysayers, it has been done. Check out Engadget. If you jailbreak you can use the Air mouse from Apple. So it appears that there are people that wanted to use a mouse. One use is to hook your jailbroken Ipad up to a projector with the vga cable and do a presentation. No need to "lug" a laptop around. Whether you think it is needed, smart or stupid is not relevant.
 



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Since Steve Jobs has taken it upon himself to answer customer queries, he becomes a frequently cited source for what Apple is working on. According to one reader, Steve Jobs replied to an email asking why there are no printing capabilities on the iPad. Steve Jobs reportedly replied "It will come."

While these email replies can be difficult to authenticate, previous rumors have claimed that Apple is indeed working on printing to make the iPad more appealing to enterprise customers.

Article Link: Steve Jobs Says Printing "Will Come" for iPad

ha, did Steve stop using his iPad?:p
 
Yay, now I can finally print out papers, websites, and photos. My wife gets really annoyed that she can't print out things for work, such as our monthly AT&T bill that she receives some reimbursement on.

Next up on my list of wants:

Video out constant mirror mode
Safari tabs that don't reload as often
Dashboard widgets
File upload in Safari
Better overall file system
BT killing Wifi bug

Here's to OS 4.1 this autumn! I'd be happy with half this stuff, and printing was near the top of my list previously, so things are already looking good. It seems likely that WWDC will reveal some of the secrets about the autumn iPad update, as the April event was more focused on iPhone.
 
The virtual keyboard on the iPad is very close to a physical keyboard. It was designed to mimic and act as close to a physical keyboard as possible. Your finger movements are the same on a virtual or physical keyboard. The mulitouch gestures do not mimic a mouse other than the Magic Mouse which would not provide more accurate gestures. The whole UI would have to be redesigned to accommodate a mouse along with Apps. Nothing has to be redesigned to accommodate a keyboard.
 
The virtual keyboard on the iPad is very close to a physical keyboard. It was designed to mimic and act as close to a physical keyboard as possible. Your finger movements are the same on a virtual or physical keyboard. The mulitouch gestures do not mimic a mouse other than the Magic Mouse which would not provide more accurate gestures. The whole UI would have to be redesigned to accommodate a mouse along with Apps. Nothing has to be redesigned to accommodate a keyboard.

What exactly has to be redesigned? It is working now on a jailbroken ipad. This would be useful for doing presentation in a conference room with an projector or plasma TV.
 
printing feature would be nice, but not very high on the priority list...

SJ: One more thing, we've added this new feature called "Buy your book on the iBook store, print it out, shut down the iPad and read the book on real paper"...

i don't think that's gonna happen... ;)
 
printing feature would be nice, but not very high on the priority list...

SJ: One more thing, we've added this new feature called "Buy your book on the iBook store, print it out, shut down the iPad and read the book on real paper"...

i don't think that's gonna happen... ;)

What makes you think the ibook app would have a print function?
 
"It will come"

So will death. Personally I'm waiting for the option of a proper cursor (so you can add a mouse) and a proper OS. Cue the fanboys dribbling that I "don't get it", new paradigm, blah blah blah.

It doesn't come from a dribbling fanboy (never actually seen one, have you? ) but from me: You don't get it. You seriously don't get it. It would take Apple five seconds to add mouse support (change one line of code somewhere), but that wouldn't be the product they want to sell!

If you want a netbook, buy a MacBook Air. It has a cursor.
 
Typical nutjob type of response. Since you're not finding what you're looking for at Apple, why not try purchasing a 'superior' product elsewhere? :rolleyes:

Looking forward to printing support!

Of course, I'm keeping an eye on all options, but if I were to buy an iPad that's one of the things I'd be looking for. APple lately has been making very locked down, highly controlled products and they need to loosen up.

But it's funny that you say that, you're basically echoing Apple's attitude: take it or leave it, we don't care.
 
Of course, I'm keeping an eye on all options, but if I were to buy an iPad that's one of the things I'd be looking for. APple lately has been making very locked down, highly controlled products and they need to loosen up.

But it's funny that you say that, you're basically echoing Apple's attitude: take it or leave it, we don't care.

Whatever attitude that is, it's making them lots of money. :) Why would they change it?
 
The virtual keyboard on the iPad is very close to a physical keyboard. It was designed to mimic and act as close to a physical keyboard as possible. Your finger movements are the same on a virtual or physical keyboard. The mulitouch gestures do not mimic a mouse other than the Magic Mouse which would not provide more accurate gestures. The whole UI would have to be redesigned to accommodate a mouse along with Apps. Nothing has to be redesigned to accommodate a keyboard.

Nothing would have to be redesigned to use a mouse. Display an arrow cursor whenever a mouse is detected; make it disappear when the user starts typing and re-appear when the mouse is moved. Mouse clicks are the same is taps with your finger. Obviously no changing mouse cursors, still no "hover" actions because there is no code there for them, but making a mouse "work" like a physical keyboard is no problem.

I would have asked Apple to create a keyboard that is like a MacBook without the monitor and the computer inside: Keyboard + mousepad. Would be perfect for people with a MacMini attached to the TV, and it would also be useful for an iPad.
 
It doesn't come from a dribbling fanboy (never actually seen one, have you? ) but from me: You don't get it. You seriously don't get it. It would take Apple five seconds to add mouse support (change one line of code somewhere), but that wouldn't be the product they want to sell!

If you want a netbook, buy a MacBook Air. It has a cursor.

What does "that wouldn't be the product they want to sell" actually mean? How does adding mouse support detract from the product? Why is a keyboard a valid addition but a mouse not? Do you have any logic to support your empty statements?

You're convinced Apple is right, but have no idea why.
 
I am curious why Steve Jobs bothers responding to these things. Especially since his replies are so brief.

No doubt there are a lot of things coming for the iPad. Like anything: it will expand and develop into a more capable device with the years. Expect 2011 to have some very nice iPads.
 
Really!!!

The notebook is much bigger, heavier and has no touchscreen. Meanwhile, there is no technical reason why the iPad can't have a cursor, mouse and a proper OS.

It would no longer be an IPad. Why have a touch screen with a mouse, that makes no sense at all. If somewhere in your dream world it does, wake up! Don't you think (if you do think) that if a mouse was a good idea some other manufacture would be all on top of that? Out of ever touch device the mouse has been skipped. Wonder why?:D
 
The virtual keyboard on the iPad is very close to a physical keyboard. It was designed to mimic and act as close to a physical keyboard as possible. Your finger movements are the same on a virtual or physical keyboard. The mulitouch gestures do not mimic a mouse other than the Magic Mouse which would not provide more accurate gestures. The whole UI would have to be redesigned to accommodate a mouse along with Apps. Nothing has to be redesigned to accommodate a keyboard.

No it wouldn't. What's stopping you from reaching up to the screen to do gestures? That's what you have to do when you use an external keyboard. Optionally adding the odd resize or rotate handle wouldn't be a "complete redesign".
 
harmonthe3rd said:
It would no longer be an IPad. Why have a touch screen with a mouse, that makes no sense at all. If somewhere in your dream world it does, wake up! Don't you think (if you do think) that if a mouse was a good idea some other manufacture would be all on top of that? Out of ever touch device the mouse has been skipped. Wonder why?:D

Don't need apple. Jailbreak add Bluetooth stack from cydia and you have your air mouse. Uses. VGA adaptor to dlp projector, with mouse and do your presentation from the iPad. No need for a laptop. O
 
Yes I read Autoblog and Jalopnik I know all about the Porsche. Too bad it uses advance technology and will cost most likely more than the average Porsche. Throwing a 4 cylinder in a Ferrari would be cheap and something the company would never do to achieve fuel economy, it goes against their philosophy and heritage. Like I said these cars are designed with speed in mind first. Apple may find a way to have another option of interacting with a tablet in the future but it won't be with a mouse. It's opposite of their philosophy with such a device. Ferrari will find a way to implement fuel economy but it sure as hell won't be with a 4 cylinder.

Pretty sure ferrari used to have an I-4 in f1....
 
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