Steve Jobs Suggests Blu-ray Not Coming to Mac Anytime Soon

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    Amongst the emails that Steve Jobs has been responding to, he also responded to an inquiry by a MacRumors reader Siva about future of Blu-ray on the Mac. While Blu-ray has been a long requested feature for Macs, Apple has described Blu-ray licensing as bag of hurt and hasn't made any moves to incorporate the drives into their desktop Macs.

    That seems unlikely to change in the near future if Steve Jobs' recent email replies are any guide. Siva emailed Jobs about being disappointed that the recently revised Mac mini didn't include a Blu-ray drive. To this, Steve Jobs replied:
    Siva responded that even though this may be true in the long run, he argued the medium term benefits were substantial, including high density backups and high quality video. He also argued that high-end video formats have had a much higher uptake and points out the lack of DRM was in part what made MP3 take off. Jobs' final response, however, offered little hope:
    Article Link: Steve Jobs Suggests Blu-ray Not Coming to Mac Anytime Soon
     
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    *shocking*

    No seriously, I never doubted Steve would prevent Macs from using Blu-Ray.
     
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    But it can't play the Blu-Ray now can it?
     
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    Doesn't look like Jobs will budge. Don't think blu-ray would hurt anyone...but that's up to apple to decided :/
     
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    You're a stupid, stupid, petty, vindictive, greedy, bitter old man, Steve.

    Blu-ray Goes Beyond Movie Distribution With New Format

    http://www.pcworld.com/businesscent...eyond_movie_distribution_with_new_format.html

    But I guess you'll just create your OWN proprietary format and extort users into accepting it (a la an 'iTunes 2').
     
  7. alectheking macrumors 6502a

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    like we didn't know this already? hardly front page worthy
     
  8. JediZenMaster Suspended

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    The future is pretty much going to be mobile devices and tablets so this makes sense. People like to have their entertainment with them at all times not some useless optical disc.

    If you want Blu-Ray don't buy a mac.
     
  9. LxTxNx macrumors 6502

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    I wanted blu-ray on my mac 2 years ago. It's past due!! It's actually delinquent!
     
  10. menomano macrumors member

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    greedy bastard

    edit: when apple pays for my unlimited no cap broadband then I can download all the lower quality movies I want until then give us Blu!
     
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    While Steve has valid points, I think he exaggerates and underestimates respectively for the popularity of downloadable/streaming for high quality video and the footprint of blu ray. Big name movies like Avatar and The Dark Knight sold MILLIONS of copies within a week of release on blu ray. By comparison, SACD and DVD-A aren't even known as a format by most consumers. It's a law of diminishing returns. Only audiophiles can/will distinguish between 256kbps CDs and the higher quality formats. That is not the case for Blu Ray.

    Meanwhile, itunes still only has 720p whereas the HD standard is 1080p. Even microsoft and sony have got around to delivering 1080p to their consoles. Storage is not to the level where people can comfortably store 1080p collections locally. This will likely continue to be the case, as maximum storage capacities increase, so will the media movies are stored on so as to make it impractical to store collections of 10 to 100s of movies on a disk or SSD, as it may be.
     
  12. haiggy macrumors 65816

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    I've never seen a blu-ray disc in person and would never use one personally... I'm getting by just fine without it (I realize some others won't feel the same way).

    That said, I think the only reason they don't adopt blu-ray drives is because it would cut into their iTunes sales lol Steve is a pretty smart cookie though... we'll see...
     
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    I love it. Steve just doesn't care anymore and he says what he really thinks. You can argue whether he's right, but you have to respect the lack of beating around the bush.
     
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    So because he won't support a standard that you want him to, You vilify someone.
     
  15. furi0usbee macrumors 68000

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    100% Agree

    Physical media is on the way out. Sure, right now you can't get the highest quality video from streamed sources, but I think within the next 5 years with faster access and better streaming technology, we'll be there. I don't even buy physical media anymore. iPad for books/audiobooks, magazines, Netflix, Hulu, iTunes. For me, I have zero need for Blu-Ray. On top of that, unless you have a large screen to playback the content, it's really pointless on a laptop.

    Forget Blu-Ray Steve, and put your efforts into better technologies.
     
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    Apple is Jobs' world. His world, his rules, even if that means not listening to the people who choose to reside on it.
     
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    If the size of my CD collection I'm trying to import into iTunes is any indication, I'm in no hurry to start buying Blu-Ray discs anytime soon.

    I'll agree with the idea of using it for expanded storage, but with how fast the "cloud" is expanding with storage, I'm starting to think physical media is pretty much obsolete.
     
  18. ELScorcho9 macrumors member

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    Not too surprising. He's never hinted at adding it. Doesn't bother me though. I've never owned a Blu-ray player. I just download movies. I'm ok with having less discs laying around.

    But I know I'm in the minority . . .
     
  19. wschutz macrumors 6502

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    But he wouldn't get any cent for each single copy :) That's why he doesn't want to see any BR near "his" machines (that he is turning into a platform for iTunes and all others making-Apple-profit platforms...)
     
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    The problem for me is download limits. An HD movie through xbox live or PSN is several gigs.
     
  21. usasalazar macrumors regular

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    Nothing wrong with blu-ray...

    There is nothing wrong with Blu-ray Steve, you're just holding it wrong. :D
     
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    Oh, yeah. Perfect.

    "Hey, Jim-Bob. Here's my iPad. It has [blank] movie on it. You can borrow it. Just give it back to me when you're done."

    Just let me output my iPad to my HDTV via HDMI output-- wait a minute!!! :eek: :p

    And isn't Steve a wonderful man extorting you like that by pigeon-holing you into one OR the other.
     
  23. furi0usbee macrumors 68000

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    Yes, it's called internet streaming.
     
  24. haiggy macrumors 65816

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    To add to this... the bandwidth to download these movies. Here in Canada my internet provider (Rogers) is a joke! I pay $50 a month and have a 60 GB monthly bandwidth cap. If I go over it is $2.50/GB. Downloading 1080p movies would eat into that VERY quickly.
     
  25. iPhoneFour macrumors member

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    true but

    Those digital copy versions packaged with the premium Blu Rays aren't even 720p. I don't want to even think of the time it'd take to put BR into my media servers which are the only way I consume media now (one chair and one device is so last-decade).

    I'll take mobile 720p over location-hostage 1080p any day. (that and my screens aren't big enough to show me any difference between the 2 anyway)
     
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