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Steve Jobs to Kick Off WWDC with Preview of Mac OS X "Tiger"
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Why should Apple make OS distributions larger with lots of optional things that third parties are already providing? Especially something abundant like backgrounds (pick your favorite image) and screen effects (try searching MacUpdate and/or VersionTracker).mgargan1 said:
And an advantage of separate apps is that there's opportunity for updates of interest to happen more quicker than relying on them to be rolled into some bloated, monolithic application. Plus you don't have (as much) dependency on a single developer.singletrack said:
I much prefer if Apple focuses on things that make it easier for developers to create apps that communicate and integrate well with each other. The sort of simple data sharing iLife apps already do could be far more ubiquitous and transparent throughout the system. Again, referring to what cnladd wrote earlier:
IMO, lack of a system-level database like that has become a crippling limitation for many current apps. I hope Apple eventually provides a solution and I'd rather wait longer than get one that's half-baked.
spfolly said:
Here are a couple of good reads:
First, an interview with the folks who developed the metadata-based filesystem for Be. The focus is on Microsoft and their development of WinFS: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/03/29/windows_on_a_database_sliced/
Next, the best reference you can find: the technical note that describes HFS+. Includes a great deal of information on the features of HFS+, including everything introduced with Panther (notably, the existence of metadata support today in the underlying filesystem): http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn/tn1150.html#HFSPlusBasics
Note: that tech note covers what the file system supports, not necessarily what's been implemented in the OS itself. For example, today, HFS+ supports both metadata and full case-sensitivity. For the first (metadata), there just isn't an interface into this yet at the kernel/FS driver level. For the second (case-sensitive HFS+), the option hasn't been enabled in any of the disk utilities: though a decent developer could write their own in order to create a case-sensitive HFS+ volume.
If you look at some of the filesystem info on ADC you will actually notice that a new filing system successor to HFS+ called HFX has quietly slipped into Mac OS X. Metadata has been increased and some is still unallocated.
cnladd said:
a decent developer like Apple? [link]
i don't recommend you do this, because a Case Sensitive FS can create end use confusion. this is why HFS and HFS+ are Case Preserving, Case Insensitive FS's. creating a File System that is Case Preserving, but Case Insensitive is actually more work to implement than for one that is Case Sensitive. Apple set it up so that it defaults this way to remove end user confusion. (smart!)
Hes Nikke said:
Nice! I didn't realize that Server supported this at all!
I was starting to become numb to the case-preserving behavior in the shell. And that scared me.
encro said:
Not that it tells us anything specific, but I was very interested in this WWDC session description:
wymer100 said:
I'm sure the rumor sites are just waiting for the official word on the new features that are going to make into Tiger. I mean it's not like they can just say anything they like about features in case something doesn't come to fruition.
Or....
Apple is finally getting off into the realm of cool new features not even the rumor sites believe them...
Speaking of metadata, Bruce Horn's iFile project (see comments in this interview for more explanation) sounds interesting. IIRC he plans to make a preview release available sometime this summer.
Yep, szark, that "upcoming enhancements to the file system" blurb in the WWDC session description caught my attention, too. Yet another WWDC temptation.. anyone want to share the cost of an E-ticket 5-Pack?
Yep, szark, that "upcoming enhancements to the file system" blurb in the WWDC session description caught my attention, too. Yet another WWDC temptation.. anyone want to share the cost of an E-ticket 5-Pack?
Proposal
You are right. I am going to propose the next operating systems from Apple.
10.2: Jaguar
10.3: Panther
10.4: Tiger
10.5: Cougar
10.6: Cheetah
11: Either bird names or non-names
Veldek said:
You are right. I am going to propose the next operating systems from Apple.
10.2: Jaguar
10.3: Panther
10.4: Tiger
10.5: Cougar
10.6: Cheetah
11: Either bird names or non-names
skywalker said:I can tell you one thing about 10.4 Tiger already.
It's grrrrrreatt!!!
JW
Sorry to disappoint but I think several people have already made that joke.
DO I HAVE TO PAY AGAIN?! I know that its optional but you feel left out if you don't. Now this is peer pressure.
how else would you get it?
everyone is 99.9% sure this will be another paid upgrade.
besides, in what, 16 months, $129 is just a few dollars a month. with the edu discount it is even less. this is not a required hardware update, just an inexpensive, optional, software update.
everyone is 99.9% sure this will be another paid upgrade.
besides, in what, 16 months, $129 is just a few dollars a month. with the edu discount it is even less. this is not a required hardware update, just an inexpensive, optional, software update.
Hes Nikke said:there is a problem here
10.0 was Cheetah
10.1 was Puma (another name for Cougar, which is another name for Mountain Lion)
somehow i doubt apple'll step all over it's exiting namespace
However, they did for Cougar, along with Lynx, Leopard, and Tiger, back in July of last year. So Cougar is definitely a possibility.
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Oops.. I didn't know Apple even had names for their OS X operating systems before Jaguar...Im so stupid...lolHes Nikke said:there is a problem here
10.0 was Cheetah
10.1 was Puma (another name for Cougar, which is another name for Mountain Lion)
somehow i doubt apple'll step all over it's exiting namespace
Hes Nikke said:
Actually, the leak of the Panther images (a little less than a dozen or so IIRC) was only a few days before WWDC. Here are the links:
WWDC Delayed Until June 23, 2003 on March 21, 2003.
Panther Screenshots (for real) on June 21, 2003.
So in fact, the leaked pics of Panther came a whole 3 months after Apple announced the preview of Panther, and only 2 days before Steve showed it to us at WWDC.
It might be a while before we see any solid Tiger info....