abc123 said:
Yep, that occured to me as well.
Last year, did they officially announce Panther 2 months before WWDC?
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Steve Jobs to Kick Off WWDC with Preview of Mac OS X "Tiger"
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Yep, that occured to me as well.
Last year, did they officially announce Panther 2 months before WWDC?
Shame on you!
How could you possibly suggest that Steve Jobs would even think about drumming up publicity ahead of an Apple event.
12 pages of postings later, and press releases all over the place on the strength of a new product with no published release date, feature list or price - Id say he has drummed up more than ticket sales.
abc123 said:
How could you possibly suggest that Steve Jobs would even think about drumming up publicity ahead of an Apple event.
12 pages of postings later, and press releases all over the place on the strength of a new product with no published release date, feature list or price - Id say he has drummed up more than ticket sales.
sjk said:
Ok, so really this is business-as-usual...
What about leaks on new features etc? Where there any of those that were accurate?
Why boot at all?
Why? One of the real beauties of Mac OS X is that the only time I have to wait through the boot process on my AlBook is when I reboot it to install an update. The rest of the time it stays asleep and comes back immediately. IMNSHO, there are better things Apple could do with their time....&RU said:
wymer100 said:
if it was a simple case of not setting the feature list yet, you can be damn sure that the rumor sites would have a list of every new feature up for consideration. no, NOBODY knows what is coming!
it's amazing how far we have come. no longer are we clamouring for a more stable operating system, we got that with jaguar, but now we are clamouring for more world class innovative features. and it is now that apple is going to be able to deliver.
NOBODY saw exposé coming. and i am hoping for more stuff like that... previously unimaginable stuff.
the user experience is now second to none and we match or exceed XP feature for feature. Come on Apple!
NOBODY saw exposé coming. and i am hoping for more stuff like that... previously unimaginable stuff.
the user experience is now second to none and we match or exceed XP feature for feature. Come on Apple!
musicpyrite said:I know one, Make Tiger a 3D OS!!!
Sweet!!!
That would be the ultimate one-up to M$!!
"ULTIMATE"? no way, a 3d interface would be nothing mroe than a gimmick right now... and it would be too vast a change for the end user.
pjkelnhofer said:
People complain that Apple does not provide a hardware roadmap so they can plan their purchases more effectively. While it would be nice, it's not feasible because sales would drop as future hardware is previewed.
Apple does provide a software roadmap for their OS. I think that's a good thing. Complain all you want, we don't know when Tiger will ship (could be months and months after WWDC) nor do we know what Jobs may have up his sleeve with new features. Jaguar and Panther made your OLD Mac better. What other OS does this? New Windows releases generally require new hardware.
I say quit the bellyaching. Apple releases a new OS every 15 months or so. It costs $129. Don't like it, don't buy it. Your computer and software will continue to work as they did before the new OS. It's easy for me to say as I earn a lot of money and $129 is nothing but as others have pointed out, it's very easy to scrape together $129. How hard is it to save $2 a day? You could have a new OS in 65 days.
abc123 said:
It's not being all that hyped by Apple. It was on a press release and is buried on Apple.com which everytime I log in is still dominated by iTunes 4.5.
We just tend to overact to every piece of news.
Blaaze said:
well, with windows i do not think it is an animation. it it not there, then there. no in-between.
but- i would like a slider for the speed of dock "poppin"
Metatron said:
Except that the 970fx at 2.0ghz is already hotter than the 7447A in the PowerBook, uses a much hotter and faster FSB, and needs faster, hotter, more expensive RAM. Not to mention it would pretty well require 7200 RPM drives, which are, *drumroll* hotter and more expensive.
Oi.
My one big wish for Tiger is rebootless installs and flash-state boots. If your machine goes down, your currently open work is opened from the applications you had at the time, using cached version that are saved every X minutes (set by user).
cnladd said:
I think that WebObjects went 100% pure Java with version 5 and support for using languages other than Java with WO disappeared with that release. The result is a split between the OpenStep derived Cocoa and WO. As a Cocoa developer one thing I would sorely like to have is the Enterprise Objects Framework, for connecting to databases, e.g., Oracle, Sybase, etc. This is available now only as part of WO whereas it used to be part of OpenStep. Shame.
So I don't think that OPENSTEP has been 'kept up to date', rather that it has just evolved into OS X / Cocoa as you described and WO is a set of Java libs and applications that run under OS X along with all the other old supported platforms. I think that part of the motivation behind making WO 100% Java was the need to keep it platform independent, whilst that wasn't a priority for OPENSTEP's evolution into OS X and Cocoa.
This was all post Apple acquisition and quite far into the OS X development, which is why you wouldn't have picked up on it from your NS/OS admin days. I'm not a WO developer, so some of my facts maybe wrong and need correcting.
Bendit said:
I've had similar problems with my TiBook, but found that running MacJanitor or Panther Cache Cleaner significantly helps with boots times as well as general performance. I was actually shocked at how fast my PB booted after the first time I ran PCC. All the maintenance tasks don't tend to get run on laptops. Something I wouldn't mind seeing addressed in some way in Tiger.
Of course there are various factors when booting on speen. I believe the grey screen stays up for ages if the boot up does a disk check, e.g., when the system hasn't shutdown properly (force reboot, power outage on a PB). I also find that it sometimes hangs on Waiting for Network, which is presumably getting a DHCP IP address from my wireless router, which if I'm not at home may end up timing out cos it can't find the router (hence longer boot). Also I imagine there are similar seconds taken to connect to peripherals and check they are still there, etc., etc.
But generally since running PCC regularly, I find my boot times are really quick. Wish I could say the same about login... nothing a 7200rpm disk wouldn't help with, I'm sure.
aswitcher said:
there was a leak before apple issued the press release that they would be showing it off at WWDC. this leak included screenshots of Expose in action, as well as the new Activity viewer.
people emidiatly wrote it off as a hoax, because Expose was just to silly to come from apple. on top of that the tabs on Activity viewer didn't look like tabs, they looked like the view buttons in the finder toolbar.
pjkelnhofer said:
heh,
imagine Apple doing the following:
Microsoft is expected to recommend that the "average" Longhorn PC feature a dual-core CPU running at 4 to 6GHz; a minimum of 2 gigs of RAM; up to a terabyte of storage; a 1 Gbit, built-in, Ethernet-wired port and an 802.11g wireless link; and a graphics processor that runs three times faster than those on the market today.
you can read the whole article here:
http://www.microsoft-watch.com/article2/0,1995,1581842,00.asp
Hes Nikke said:the MCP in me stirs: (shudder)
Roaming Profiles allow you to log into an account anywhere on the domain and still have all your settings. [...] Folder syncing (used in conjunction with roaming profiles and the caching of domain logins) allows you to have your home folder available while you are away from the office.
Yes.
Roaming Profiles stores all settings centrally on your server, but not necessarily your home directory. When you log into a client all of your settings get synchronized with that client. If you make drastic changes, or store large files (such as a huge Outlook PST file, for example) your synchronization times can be drastically increased.
Roaming profiles work with remote home directories by making sure the client you logged into mounts the appropriate home directory upon logging in.
Finally, folder synchronization allows you to synchronize a copy of a network folder--any network folder--to your local client. This includes home directories. Upon making changes offline and logging back in the changes you made are then resynchronized with the remote copy.
It is true that a home directory can become part of a Roaming Profile, but many shops don't do that because it means synchronizing an entire home directory with a client every time you log on. Most people don't need their home directories synced to every workstation they log onto--they just need to be able to access it.
That's ridiculous. While Microsoft is increasing hardware requirements, it seems as though Apple is keeping them the same or even decreasing them (e.g. making the OS faster, or Snappier).
This is part of the conspiracy between Microsoft and the hardware makers; they keep each other in business.
This is part of the conspiracy between Microsoft and the hardware makers; they keep each other in business.
aclose72 said:
And there are people here that are worried that Tiger may not run on their G3. We should realize how well we have it.
This goes back to a point I made earlier, in the Windows world, how often do users upgrade their OS. By the time Longhorn comes out, most PC's that came out with XP will not be able to run it anyhow (and forget about ones that shipped with 2000 or NT). Meanwhile, Panther runs quite nicely on my iMac G3 that arrived over four years ago with OS 9 installed and OS X on a CD in the box (I never installed OS X until the release of Jaguar and I haven't looked back).
cgc said:
So since Apple makes both the OS and the hardware, they only have to keep themselves in business.
I think that you are reading conspiracy into MS's inability to properly design an OS. The increase in processor speeds, bus speeds, memory, etc. in the PC world is created by multiple manufacturers always trying to say they have the fastest or best whatever. Where as, in the Mac world, it is fueled by Apple's own efforts to outdo itself.
how about some new backgrounds... not just one every new update, and some new screensavers... linux has some kickass screen savers...