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I recently read some “or cook implied that the reason that a MacBook laptops don’t have touch clans is cause he wants people to buy an extra iPad.

Steve never would’ve pulled that crap. He wanted to make the best products for the best user experience.

And don’t get me started at the nerdy beta, testing VR goggles that Apple has now released …
When the iPhone came out, it was in beta.
 
I have a hard time believing that 2024 Jobs would still be CEO of Apple. Far too controversial a personality to survive in today’s ESG-obsessed corporate world.

Really? I think he would have no problem at all as he already ignored most of the (often stupid) ways and opinions of the corporate world. He expressed this in many ways during his life as most of us know.
 
Really? I think he would have no problem at all as he already ignored most of the (often stupid) ways and opinions of the corporate world. He expressed this in many ways during his life as most of us know.

Agreed, but the world has changed a LOT even in the short years since his death. Obviously I can only speculate, but I imagine he would have said or done something by now that would have had him excommunicated persona non grata by a board of directors beholden to the yoke of ESG political lunacy.
 
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This may be true and everyone is in fear. But AI is already too far, to be abubble. It is integrated in ms office suits, companies, crm, cloud, SAP/Dynamics …. Don‘t know if it will fail.
Yes, the same as the dot com bubble. And just like that it’s held up as a key market driver despite being extremely expensive with little to no monetisation potential and living off a stream of VC cash. At the minute every major AI player is throwing money in a furnace.
 
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I wonder if Steve Jobs was still alive if we would have ever seen more than one size of the iPhone or iPad. The iPhone mini would have just been the only iPhone. I remember he was adamant in interviews that both were the perfect size. We would have seen thinner but larger and so many options I’m not sure.

Lot of companies these days have got lost down a Rabbit Hole of choice... they try to offer every permutation and option at the expense of just making one device really really well. If you look at the history of iPhone, iPad and now MacBook... there is just at some point an explosion in the number of options or tiers.

I mean look at streaming services.... at one time it was just take it or leave it at a decent price.

Everyone is doing this but at some point it will revert to simplicity when the environmental/servicing and production costs are factored in for maintaining this as the expectation is that devices will either become more easily repairable or just last longer.
But screen size is a common choice and a deeply personal user preference. Under Steve we had 13, 15, and 17" PowerBooks/MacBook Pros, 12 and 14" iBooks, and multiple sizes of iMac from the G4 generation onward all offered concurrently as options.

The iPad Air and iPad Pro at an 11" size with very similar specs are blurring of product lines but offering each product in different screen sizes is not.
 
I recently read some “or cook implied that the reason that a MacBook laptops don’t have touch clans is cause he wants people to buy an extra iPad.
Steve never would’ve pulled that crap.
wouldn’t he?
"We've done tons of user testing on this, and it turns out it doesn't work. Touch surfaces don't want to be vertical.

It gives great demo but after a short period of time, you start to fatigue and after an extended period of time, your arm wants to fall off. it doesn't work, it's ergonomically terrible.

Touch surfaces want to be horizontal, hence pads.
For a notebook, that's why we're perfected our multitouch trackpads over the years, because that's the best way we've found to get multitouch into a notebook.

We've also, in essence, put a trackpad -- a multitouch track pad on the mouse with our magic mouse. And we've recently come out with a pure play trackpad as well for our desktop users.

So this is how were going to use multitouch on our Mac products because this (he points at someone touch laptop screen) doesn't work."
 
When the iPhone came out, it was in beta.
Ah, the software was beta. But the hardware was ready to ship. With the AVP neither the hardware is near a final product nor is the price. Not even close to the first Mac Mini with Apple silicon which was released to some devs only.

The whole thing is subject to change.
 
You don‘t know much about stock markets and AI, do you? Nvidia is $2 trillion dollar now, but is it the leading company in AI hardware and is doomed to break the $3 trillion dollar barrier.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/23/nvidias-a100-is-the-10000-chip-powering-the-race-for-ai-.html

In contrast Apples $3 trillion are based on the iPhone*. This won’t last for another decade. But without the iPhone, Apple is bust. Imagine Apple doesn’t manage to integrate AI, the iPhone would be dead tomorrow and the Apple stock would collapse.
Maybe Apple wouldn’t be worth as much as you said today, but it would be sustainable and last for the next 50 years at last.


*) E.g. Apple is only capable to build its own A series silicon, cause the iPhone made enough money and sells enough units. And now even the Macs depend on those chips. No iPhone -> No A series chips -> No Macs with A silicon.
My replies are pointing to solely to Apple Inc.

You mention Apple's decision to cut off Nvidia and I provided the history of why Apple ditched them.
 
My replies are pointing to solely to Apple Inc.

You mention Apple's decision to cut off Nvidia and I provided the history of why Apple ditched them.
Yes I know but the main point was their fight over OpenCL vs Cuda. But instead of making Apple the best platform if you want to develop CUDA, Apple decided to fight CUDA with their proprietary Metal and banned Nvidia.

No one cares about Metal, you know? It is just another proprietary BS technology from Apple. Banning CUDA/Nvidia/OpenGL or Vulkan from their platform leads nowhere since the world just doesn‘t care.
 
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Sadly he was too stubborn for his own good. He’d be alive today if he’d sought traditional medicine right away, but he delayed while perusing other options and that sealed his fate. His genius failed him when he most needed it. 🥲
Islet cell cancer has about a 93% survival rate with prompt treatment, so 7% mortality, but only assuming it had not metastasized. Since we don't know that variable, you can't say for certain he would have survived.
 
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I think Mr. Jobs was very smart in terms of product usability, sizing and interface design. I am surprised to see how small the original iPhone looks compared to today's "tablets". I seem to remember it was optimised for what a typical human hand holding the phone can reach with the fingers. It was not made to display complex large size web pages but it still could display them. I like smaller form factor phones and enjoy the SE.
 
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Yes I know but the main point was their fight over OpenCL vs Cuda. But instead of making Apple the best platform if you want to develop CUDA, Apple decided to fight CUDA with their proprietary Metal and banned Nvidia.

No one cares about Metal, you know? It is just another proprietary BS technology from Apple. Banning CUDA/Nvidia/OpenGL or Vulkan from their platform leads nowhere since the world just doesn‘t care.
https://www.kitguru.net/lifestyle/m...ut-jobs-tells-jen-hsun-no-thanks-for-2-years/
Steve Jobs kickked Nvida to the curb more than 14 years ago. Blaming it on Tim shows ignorance of the history of Apple & Nvidia. I think the previous link I provided you included that in their timeline.

There was no fight over OpenCL vs CUDA.

For Apple's purposes CUDA does not matter. They weren't selling products directly relating to CUDA.

It is similar to Microsoft & DirectX... they want to wall out OpelGL. For Microsoft's purposes they were financially fruitful.

From Apple's experience Nvidia is not a good business partner. Nvidia broke NDAs revealing future Apple products and delivered broken Nvida parts that caused Apple costly recalls.

As a business owner I do not blame them for blacklisting them.

Refusing to support CUDA/Nvidia/OpenGL or Vulkan likely made Apple more money than supporting them.

You're sore about it because you want it for your use case.

Like gaming, you are better off being served on Windows.
 
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But screen size is a common choice and a deeply personal user preference. Under Steve we had 13, 15, and 17" PowerBooks/MacBook Pros, 12 and 14" iBooks, and multiple sizes of iMac from the G4 generation onward all offered concurrently as options.

The iPad Air and iPad Pro at an 11" size with very similar specs are blurring of product lines but offering each product in different screen sizes is not.
Offering laptops and desktops, including ipads in different screen sizes makes sense as different uses require different screen sizes. But iphones are mostly used for the same tasks….
 
Offering laptops and desktops, including ipads in different screen sizes makes sense as different uses require different screen sizes. But iPhones are mostly used for the same tasks….
Screen size options are a response to consumer demand and competitor's product line.

Before Steve Jobs died the largest iPhone was the 2012 iPhone 5 when bigger phones were making Android look like a better value for phone-only buyers.

After he passed then the iPhone started aligning with Android screen sizes.

With the iPhone 12 & 13, Apple offered the iPhone mini. It did not sell in quantities that was worth Apple's time, money and resources.

Android did not fair any better either. Not enough persons were buying any to make it worth lower volume companies.

I love bigger phones as they have bigger batteries. Bigger batteries mean less frequent recharge cycles.

As it is right now iPhone 15 models were re-rated by Apple to be at 80% battery health on its 1,000th discharge & recharge cycle.

Assuming user recharges every

- 3 days then on the 1,000th recharge it would be more than 8.2 years old.
- 4 days then on the 1,000th recharge it would be nearly 11 years old.

Final iOS security update is released after 8.3 years
 
Ah, the software was beta. But the hardware was ready to ship. With the AVP neither the hardware is near a final product nor is the price. Not even close to the first Mac Mini with Apple silicon which was released to some devs only.

The whole thing is subject to change.
The iPhone was first gen hardware. Are you seriously telling me you believe the Original iPhone hardware was better resolved than the First Gen AVP 😂.

Terrible screen resolution, dull, easily crackable. Terrible battery life, slow a.f. 30 pin connector, no water protection, body that cracks as easily as the screen. This thing was slapped together like nothing else. It was the idea and what it promised that was so good. And it eventually realised what it promised.

Of course the AVP is not near is final product. It is Gen 1 for gods sake. If it was completely done, so are Apple.
 
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The same guy that would not acknowledge his own daughter so as to NOT share his wealth with...Yeah what a "man"..

Ok but he did acknowledge her and they built a very solid relationship so what's your point. No one is perfect and while Jobs had his flaws he was a visionary who made Apple what it is today.

So again, what is your point?
 
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The iPhone was first gen hardware. Are you seriously telling me you believe the Original iPhone hardware was better resolved than the First Gen AVP 😂.

Terrible screen resolution, dull, easily crackable. Terrible battery life, slow a.f. 30 pin connector, no water protection, body that cracks as easily as the screen. This thing was slapped together like nothing else. It was the idea and what it promised that was so good. And it eventually realised what it promised.

Of course the AVP is not near is final product. It is Gen 1 for gods sake. If it was completely done, so are Apple.
What??? The first iPhone was a major breakthrough. Every tech magazine had its doubt that Apple manged to run Darwin on an ARM cpu. This was impossible until Apple did it.
Screen was a capacitive Touchscreen, you may think that it had a bad resolution. But it was awesome in 2007. No one thought that such a device is possible in 2007.

Pls stop smoking bad weed immediately… 😂
 
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