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Steve Wozniak to Star in an Upcoming Reality TV Show Focusing on Futuristic Tech

Dekema2 said:
I'm just now finding out all three were let go. What happened, was it a budgeting issue? I don't understand the "new direction" they want to take the show in. A boring one?
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All Adam/Jamie said was: "We are taking a new direction". There was no reason given, and neither Grant, Tory, or Kari have publicly said anything negative about their departure.

It was announced at the end of the final episode of last season. But, for some reason our DVR didn't record it and I didn't hear about it until a couple of months ago.
 
camnchar said:
And where in my 9 word post did I say anything about "how much of a loser" Woz is? I like the guy well enough but man, lately it seems like he can't go 15 minutes without some type of press.
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is there a wozrumors.com i don't know about? i read a lot about tech and apple and wouldn't say he pops up in my line of sight that often. if i could start seeing less of jeff bezos' gleaming dome, that would be nice.
 
tevion5 said:
The guy singlehandedly developed the Apple I and Apple II computer, and also personally developed the first practical method of generating colour on a computer that didn't cost almost $100'000. He co-founded one of the most profitable companies in history. Namely, the company that this website is dedicated to following.

If you don't want to read about him, fine. But please don't tell us all about how much of a loser he is. He's achieved more than you or me likely ever will.
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Wozniak is cool for sure. However, I wouldn't say single-handedly developed. Here is a little known fact that the people that rewrote the computers history to favor Apple seldom mention. According to Chuck Peddle Woz couldn't get the Apple I to work correctly and Peddle gave them a visit to sort it out. He designed the CPU that Woz used in the Apple's. Woz said himself that he used a lot of different chips to do different things but he didn't design the chips himself. On the other hand Commodore/MOS designed all the chips for their line of computers.

Don't get me wrong, I am typing this on an Apple but it is known that a lot of key people/companies are left out of most history of Personal Computer books and articles that made significant contributions to the industry.

My point is that he could not have even created the Apple line of 8-bits without other key people before him and helping him.
 
This show has potential to be great

Kari is smart and hot. It will be great to see her with Woz.

For those that are opinionated about Woz vs. Jobs... what's the problem? Yes, Jobs was a genius at some things. So was Woz. Why does it have to be one or the other?

I have always seen Jobs as a man who had a great need to impress, and who would never miss an opportunity to enrich himself. He had no qualms about making someone feel small, especially if it made him feel important.

Woz has always been one of the kindest and most honest people on this planet. Not too many people are aware of the depth of his character and generosity. If anything, the man goes to great lengths to avoid credit for this.

Jobs never uttered a word that wasn't calculated and precise. Everything in life was a competition. That is what made him great at leading a company. He had to make tough decisions, and sometimes that requires some ruthless tendencies. I could never see Woz in such a role. Both were required to get Apple launched and to maturity. Neither one of them could have done it alone.

And as for Woz being the inventor of all things computer... let's not be ridiculous. Computers existed previously, to be sure. And, even at Homebrew Computer Club, many other people had the idea to somehow build a computer for personal use that wasn't a silly Heathkit with toggle switches. Woz took it a few crucial steps further. Did he invent the CPU? Of course not. He designed a board that was affordable to build and easy to use. He reduced parts count in ways that nobody had done before. He pioneered the use of regular TVs as displays for computers. He saw the need for simple tools that made this interesting to hobbyists and developers alike.

Both men left permanent marks on our lives. I'm glad we still have Woz here to learn from. Some of the most important things we can learn from Woz are about being human, and not about technology. I hope this show gives us a bit of that.
 
teslo said:
if i could start seeing less of jeff bezos' gleaming dome, that would be nice.
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Agreed on that. Hopefully with the failure of the Fire Phone and this weird new Echo speaker/Siri living room thing, we'll see a LOT less of Bezos.
 
NeoX360 said:
Wozniak is cool for sure. However, I wouldn't say single-handedly developed. Here is a little known fact that the people that rewrote the computers history to favor Apple seldom mention. According to Chuck Peddle Woz couldn't get the Apple I to work correctly and Peddle gave them a visit to sort it out. He designed the CPU that Woz used in the Apple's. Woz said himself that he used a lot of different chips to do different things but he didn't design the chips himself. On the other hand Commodore/MOS designed all the chips for their line of computers.

Don't get me wrong, I am typing this on an Apple but it is known that a lot of key people/companies are left out of most history of Personal Computer books and articles that made significant contributions to the industry.

My point is that he could not have even created the Apple line of 8-bits without other key people before him and helping him.
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Oh I totally agree. There are an enormous amount of important people in computer history that are sadly forgotten. Most recently I learned all about Gary Kildall's Company "Digital Research", his creation of CP/M, and how close he came to being Bill gates. Almost nobody will remember his name when he was the operating titan of the early 80's. Amazing how much is left out of the history books.
 
ptb42 said:
All Adam/Jamie said was: "We are taking a new direction". There was no reason given, and neither Grant, Tory, or Kari have publicly said anything negative about their departure.
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Mythbusters jumped the shark a couple of seasons ago - - Kari, Grant, and Tori were lucky to get out.
 
furi0usbee said:
And before people start telling me how Jobs had an ego and how Jobs this and that.... Yeah, Jobs acted like he was the smartest person in the world. Woz will tell you he is the smartest person in the world. Those are two different things.
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Woz built stuff, Jobs sold stuff-- also two different things.

I understand why Jobs is a hero to the gadget fiends and business people. Woz is a hero among true geeks who understand that it's the stuff you don't see that make revolution possible.

And, like a geek, he doesn't always interact with the public in the most flattering way. He's smart, but maybe it sounds bad for him to say it. Whatever. The guy went from pretty much being the guy that launched the personal computer industry to teaching elementary school. He deserves his props.

He also, apparently, has a thing for redheads...
teslo said:
if i could start seeing less of jeff bezos' gleaming dome, that would be nice.
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Amen.
 
Analog Kid said:
Woz built stuff, Jobs sold stuff-- also two different things.
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I have nothing against Woz. For sure he was the technical brains behind the startup. My main problem with Woz, and if you read/listen to iWoz, is that every other anecdote, reminiscence, tidbit of information, he tells you what *he* did, how *he* did it, and how it's something that never had been done before. He's not very modest at all. It's fine for other people to fawn over your achievements, but to listen to Woz go on and on about himself, that just turns me off. Also, most times I hear Jobs go on about something, it's almost always "Apple" he is referring to. What Apple is doing, what Apple did. With Woz, it's just Woz he's referring to.
 
furi0usbee said:
My main problem with Woz, and if you read/listen to iWoz, is that every other anecdote, reminiscence, tidbit of information, he tells you what *he* did, how *he* did it, and how it's something that never had been done before.
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I haven't read the book but, given the title, I'd be surprised if it was about someone else...

I get your point, but I think it's just an artifact of him being proud of what he's done without having the commanding presence of a business leader-- and being asked to write a book about himself. Given the rest of what he's done with his life, I think he's focused much more outwardly than most tech magnates.
 
Analog Kid said:
I haven't read the book but, given the title, I'd be surprised if it was about someone else...
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You can write a book about yourself with *some* humility... that's my main point. You don't have to say you were the first person to ever think of such and such, and such... Again, he's a great mind, but I would much prefer he let his peers tell me that, rather than the man himself.
 
furi0usbee said:
You can write a book about yourself with *some* humility... that's my main point. You don't have to say you were the first person to ever think of such and such, and such... Again, he's a great mind, but I would much prefer he let his peers tell me that, rather than the man himself.
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So you bought a book by Woz about Woz and are upset that he says he was the first to do things that he was, in fact, the first to do.

Autobiography: auto- self referential, bio- about life, graph- writing.

I suppose he could have written iWoz about the achievements of Larry Ellison or something...
 
Analog Kid said:
So you bought a book by Woz about Woz and are upset that he says he was the first to do things that he was, in fact, the first to do.
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Yes. Got sick of him telling me how brilliant he was, early on in the book. I blame his editor more. Listening to him speak is like nails on a chalkboard. It doesn't take long for him to take credit for something.
 
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