Steve Wozniak Weighs in on Apple-FBI Dispute

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    Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak has backed Apple in its fight with the FBI over the agency's request that it unlock the iPhone at the center of the San Bernardino shooter investigation.

    Wozniak appeared yesterday on late-night TBS talk show Conan to share his thoughts on the high-profile case, asserting that the FBI had "picked the lamest case they ever could: the two phones owned by the people who aren't even convicted terrorists and have not one link to a terrorist organization."
    The FBI has asked Apple to create a version of iOS that would both disable passcode security features and allow passcodes to be entered electronically, allowing it to then brute force the passcode on the device. Wozniak explained the inherent danger of the agency's request by recollecting his early coding days.
    Wozniak's views are relatively unsurprising given his work for the San Fransisco-based Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), a non-profit organization that Wozniak co-founded and which aims to protect individual rights in matters of technology. You can watch his comments on the case in full in the video below.


    Apple's opposition to the order that would require it to help the FBI break into the San Bernardino shooter's iPhone will face off against the government in court on March 22.

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    You tell'em Woz!


    Unfortunately, no one at the FBI is listening to reason.
    They want what they want, whatever it takes.
     
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    Yes! The FBI seems like the proverbial bratty child having a complete fit ("don't you know who I am?!") that they want something before they leave Toys 'R Us. :eek:
     
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    Wait. They already have the phone records and messages? Then, why in the world do they do they "need" Apple to break their own encryption for this phone? Smh.
     
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    "Republican's" defence of the government on this matter is either fear without the facts, or using fake slanderous terms like 'liberal' without qualification of argument.
     
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    They need the D.C.P. (dormant cyber pathogen) inside that iPhone to extract, inoculate their own, and militarize in the upcoming cyber/trade/hot wars again China et al....to "make America great again". dontchano ? ;)
     
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    He makes a great point. If America gets the back door, so does every government that Apple sells products in. No one is safe.

    I have this awful feeling that this will go through, and this is how some crazy one world government conspiracy weirdness thing will go through where the government can watch their people and monitor their chatter because of this back door. Just hypothesizing. It's like watching the start of a movie or novel.
     
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    And Woz would be Brainy Smurf
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    You think it'd be limited to governments?
     
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    Because apparently they think life is a sitcom and the terrorists planned their entire attack in notes, the assumption is that they even included little sketches depicting their map route (yes, with stick figure men representing themselves and their victims). It even states why terrorism exists, how to solve it, and the meaning of life to boot!

    The amount of effort the government applies against tracking and violating the rights of its own citizens instead of, you know, the actual terrorists is disgusting.
     
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    Oops by Steve I meant Woz is clearly Papa Smurf.

    Jobs, I don't know. He could be a combination of natural smurf (vegan etc), snappy smurf (prone to outbursts) and many others.
     
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    They're afraid more private prisons corporations would sue them like here:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/19/private-prison-quotas_n_3953483.html
    for not supplying them with enough prisoners. Since marihuana is becoming more legalized, their profit projections are in the toilet. So what better business to Trump up than home grown "terrorists".

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    For a start.

    Imagine the iPhone 7 sales if Apple has to hand this over to the government.
     
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    Or the next iOS upgrade coming soon to an iDevice near you.
     
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    Yeah and they have a backup of the iPhone from a month or so before the attacks and like Woz was saying, its a work phone so the bad guys knew it could be accessed by their bosses....which is why they had their own personal phones and destroyed them afterwards.

    It seems pretty obvious there's nothing on the phone, this is all about making sure the govt gets its "Clipper Chip" (using an orchestrated fear campaign on the public) to our smartphones for the future. The govt saw this as their chance to do this as they actually talked about previously (amazing this isn't brought up more): http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...etails-u-s-s-broader-strategy-to-crack-phones

    With numerous examples of past U.S. leaders abusing such power for their own benefit (like Hoover at the FBI, McCarthy, Nixon) - this kind of access is too much power to place in the hands of govt and just trust that they'll never misuse it (cause history tells us otherwise).
     
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    At how much? Funny choice of word ;)
     
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    Love Woz, but he seems like the toughest guy to interview. You ask him one question and with one breath, he answers every single question and follow up question you planned on asking, effectively turning a 5 minute interview into 1 minute.
     
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    FBI: "Everyone just clam down. All we need to do is gain access to the Contacts of the phone so we get street addresses of the bad guys so we can go get them."
     
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    Because they have the SMS messages, and not iMessages or other phone content that doesn't come from Verizon. They also have all of that data from a few months ago too, but not as recent. All of this in an effort to "leave no stone unturned", even if it's a pointless little pebble.
     
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    The war on terror is less believable than the war on drugs. The US gov contribute and fabricate both to enforce more control over the people.

    What will it take for the people to start an uprising?!
     
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    Boy Woz has gained weight. I mean he has always been heavy set but this is looking really unhealthy.
     
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    Yeah, think I'll stay on iOS9 forever thanks!
     

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