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(The thread is still about fun safe uses for old iPads, it’s not about what you want to hijack it to talk about.)

Thanks to everyone who cares enough about our environment to put off discarding their still useful electronics!

Incidentally yesterday I also found that the old safari browser still streams shoutcast music just fine so another fun safe use for an old iPad!

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Yeah, the issue is that iPads go from “a device you can use for all your needs” to “a device which you have to pick specific tasks for”. Eventually, it gets to the point where so many of the bullet points of your usage pattern are gone that it’s practically pure constraints and impediments.

Some websites work (and that number will drop precipitously once the iOS version is old enough). Some apps work. Some games work. So you adjust your usage pattern to that which works. When it gets difficult enough, you have to get a new device and keep the older iPad for that specific pattern if you like. And the end result is the same. Sure, I’d never throw an iPad into a landfill, but I’d do that even if it didn’t work at all.

The only thing you can do is to find a usage pattern that works. Some people use them as photo albums, but it’s no longer an iPad, it’s a photo frame. Some people use them as music devices, but it’s no longer an iPad, it’s an mp3 player.

I never update iOS. I’ve been using original iOS versions since 2011. If I want to use an iPad like I want to use it, circumventing these issues once they get tough enough gets really old, really fast. Especially if you have other devices, which you HAVE to buy. You need access to your primary, full usage pattern at all times, anyway. If I cannot have 95% of my usage pattern, I might as well stop using the iPad completely.

The only aspect I can think of is a game. Say, so as not to drain battery life on a newer iPad I can use an older one, so that if I drain battery life on an older iPad it doesn’t matter as much.

But there’s only so much you can do, and like I said, if you lose enough of your usage pattern, then you might as well just use your primary iPad. Safari’s access pretty much collapses eventually. You can read with older iPads too, with apps like iBooks, that’s something else that won’t collapse.
 
Yeah, the issue is that iPads go from “a device you can use for all your needs” to “a device which you have to pick specific tasks for”. Eventually, it gets to the point where so many of the bullet points of your usage pattern are gone that it’s practically pure constraints and impediments.

Some websites work (and that number will drop precipitously once the iOS version is old enough). Some apps work. Some games work. So you adjust your usage pattern to that which works. When it gets difficult enough, you have to get a new device and keep the older iPad for that specific pattern if you like. And the end result is the same. Sure, I’d never throw an iPad into a landfill, but I’d do that even if it didn’t work at all.

The only thing you can do is to find a usage pattern that works. Some people use them as photo albums, but it’s no longer an iPad, it’s a photo frame. Some people use them as music devices, but it’s no longer an iPad, it’s an mp3 player.

I never update iOS. I’ve been using original iOS versions since 2011. If I want to use an iPad like I want to use it, circumventing these issues once they get tough enough gets really old, really fast. Especially if you have other devices, which you HAVE to buy. You need access to your primary, full usage pattern at all times, anyway. If I cannot have 95% of my usage pattern, I might as well stop using the iPad completely.

The only aspect I can think of is a game. Say, so as not to drain battery life on a newer iPad I can use an older one, so that if I drain battery life on an older iPad it doesn’t matter as much.

But there’s only so much you can do, and like I said, if you lose enough of your usage pattern, then you might as well just use your primary iPad. Safari’s access pretty much collapses eventually. You can read with older iPads too, with apps like iBooks, that’s something else that won’t collapse.
That's the nature of any computer hitting the geriatric stage of its life cycle, though, isn't it? Regardless of whether or not you update the OS, the things you can do with that device start shrinking. I still have my OG iPad, and a year or two ago I fired it back up for a bit of nostalgia. Physically it is in much better shape than my iPad Air 2 is, being such a bulkier, more robust device, but while the screen was good back in 2010, standards have shifted. Anyway, I couldn't do much with it, so I put it away again. Maybe I could set it up as a wall clock? There's not much else you can do with a 15 year old iPad.
 
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Here lies the problem - because if Apple allowed 3rd party OS’ to be loaded, there would be an entire open source community creating useful things for what is still a formidable device.
While I'm not going to join the chorus bashing Apple for their decisions, I will admit it would be nice to be able to have a few more options for old Apple gear. It's usually so well made it's still functional long past its usable lifespan, like my 2012 MacBook Air that I gave to my brother last year, that he's still using, or my 2008 iMac that I occasionally pull out to use when I need to access some files from that decade, once every year or two. I feel that app support is the factor that stops them being useful. It would be pretty gratifying to pull out my 2010 iPad, put in a new battery, and find a use for it. I hope I can get an M3 iPad Air by the end of the year, and that it is as well made as the original iPad!

Actually, changing OS would make my 2008 iMac LESS useful to me, since I need it to occasionally run applications so old they won't even work on Catalina.

The one that is surprising me the most is my Series 2 Apple Watch. I got it second hand off a friend, and it is a refurb. It's clearly had a new battery too, at some stage, because it's still chugging away, happily taking my pulse, tracking my walks, notifying me, and telling me the time. I don't have a good case to upgrade, because even though I want some of the features of the current series, it just works too well to justify replacing!
 
Here lies the problem - because if Apple allowed 3rd party OS’ to be loaded, there would be an entire open source community creating useful things for what is still a formidable device.
Much worse than that!
Apple forbids you to download the old version of a software that would run on your old iPad if you had not downloaded it when it was current.
On the top of it, they have deliberately cut the maps capability on older devices fully preventing their usage as navigation devices.
 
Actually, changing OS would make my 2008 iMac LESS useful to me, since I need it to occasionally run applications so old they won't even work on Catalina.
That's really a very old Mac. I won't give a penny for iMacs older than 2012, they are just great as heating devices.
But you get today iMac > 2012 for peanuts, which are ways more powerful and reliable.
And the best: they run perfectly non-Apple OSes, with which you can happily forget all compatibility hassles "made in Cupertino".
 
That's really a very old Mac. I won't give a penny for iMacs older than 2012, they are just great as heating devices.
But you get today iMac > 2012 for peanuts, which are ways more powerful and reliable.
And the best: they run perfectly non-Apple OSes, with which you can happily forget all compatibility hassles "made in Cupertino".
That’s great, but I still have occasional need of those applications that are so old they won’t run on my 2012 MacBook Air.
 
I have an old white Macbook 2007 for that got it for 20€. It runs Snow-Leopard and, as such, also old PPC software if I need it.
I also have an old white MacBook I enjoy using. Trying to decide if I keep it on Snow Leopard or move to Lion….???
 
I cannot understand some people’s responses on this thread, and what the hell does ‘usage pattern’ have to do with repurposing an old ipad!??

I have 2 old ipads that I use still, one ipad c.2012 as a control panel for all of the smart home stuff (lights, blinds, etc) and home mucks controller. And I have an iPad Mini 2 in the living room on a stand that I use for my HiFi, which runs Roon and works great still. I don’t use them for anything else, purely remote controls and they work very well at it.
 
I cannot understand some people’s responses on this thread, and what the hell does ‘usage pattern’ have to do with repurposing an old ipad!??

I have 2 old ipads that I use still, one ipad c.2012 as a control panel for all of the smart home stuff (lights, blinds, etc) and home mucks controller. And I have an iPad Mini 2 in the living room on a stand that I use for my HiFi, which runs Roon and works great still. I don’t use them for anything else, purely remote controls and they work very well at it
I know right, I guess some people just enjoy lecturing (trying to control) other people and get bent out of shape if you don’t agree with them and submit to their worldview.
 
just one example for a use case for really old iPads :D
That's how an ancient iPad Air first generation which is stuck on iOs 12.5.7 (!) lives on in our office.
it's serves as a display for the SPC HMI of our wood chip heating system. that's just VNC viewer connected to the SPC via a VLAN that's separated only for the communication with the aggregate.
it's on 24/7 for 3 years now but so far no damages to the display.
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No need for them to ever go to landfill: take them or send them to Apple and they will recycle the for free.
Follow the links to get the packing slip if you need to send in.
 
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and what the hell does ‘usage pattern’ have to do with repurposing an old ipad!??
I assume this was directed to me.
If you use your iPad for Netflix and content consumption apps that work with older app versions, the device remains useful for far longer, because the tasks for which you use your iPad will work for many years (or forever, at least up until now).

If you require new apps all the time, or you use it for apps that progressively lose compatibility, that lifespan is shortened.

I have a 9.7-inch iPad Pro on iOS 12 and compatibility is now pretty much limited to a Netflix machine. And MacRumors still works. Apart from that, it isn’t as useful as my devices on newer versions.

How you use the iPad has EVERYTHING to do with an older iPad’s longevity.

You have to start inventing specific usage patterns for your devices to be useful, like you did as remote controllers.

Or do you use your newest iPad solely as a remote controller, too?
 
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No need for them to ever go to landfill: take them or send them to Apple and they will recycle the for free.
Follow the links to get the packing slip if you need to send in.
I’d rather find a specific purpose for it than just give it to Apple for free.

Even as a wall clock it has some value. Apple doesn’t pay you for recycling it. I would never give anything to Apple to recycle for free.
 
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How you use the iPad has EVERYTHING to do with an older iPad’s longevity.

You have to start inventing specific usage patterns for your devices to be useful, like you did as remote controllers.

Or do you use your newest iPad solely as a remote controller, too?

True. We can't even use older devices as remote controller. We use the latest version of HomeKit and anything older than iOS 16 is a no-go.
 
I assume this was directed to me.
If you use your iPad for Netflix and content consumption apps that work with older app versions, the device remains useful for far longer, because the tasks for which you use your iPad will work for many years (or forever, at least up until now).

If you require new apps all the time, or you use it for apps that progressively lose compatibility, that lifespan is shortened.

I have a 9.7-inch iPad Pro on iOS 12 and compatibility is now pretty much limited to a Netflix machine. And MacRumors still works. Apart from that, it isn’t as useful as my devices on newer versions.

How you use the iPad has EVERYTHING to do with an older iPad’s longevity.

You have to start inventing specific usage patterns for your devices to be useful, like you did as remote controllers.

Or do you use your newest iPad solely as a remote controller, too?
Yeah, but the thread topic is about how people are re-purposing their old iPads once they are beyond the point of being good for Netflix etc, not about how useless iPads are for playing Netflix once they are at a certain point. Get it?
 
Hi Everyone,

Nothing special just a quick observation of mine.

I find it interesting how useful older iPads still are in spite of them being massively out of date. For example, in my kitchen I have an old iPad 3rd generation running version 9.3.5 of the iPad OS. The iPad lives in my kitchen in an Apple iPad Dock (Model A1381) with the audio out attached into my Apple iPod Hi-Fi speaker and the power to the wall to keep the iPad charged. This setup gets used every single day for streaming Pandora and other compatible audio apps to the speaker. I also have recipes stored on the iPad for cooking and I occasionally use it for reading materials I've stored on it from various places and sources. In other words this thing is great and extremely useful for me. The best part is I got the iPad and the iPad dock free when I found them discarded in a recycle bin. Shockingly the battery still also holds a great charge and I've never had any issue when I un-dock it for reading....the battery seems to just go and go. Anyways I really find it disturbing when I see article on all of the e-waste in the world and especially how it's dumped in developing parts of the world and it's really something to be able to usefully continue the life of my older "obsolete" electronics and not have to really compromise what I use them for for as long as possible.

Anyways, just my 2 cents about this subject.

Thanks everyone.

:)
I wholeheartedly agree. I have 2 ipad 2's from 2011, one 32gb and the other 64gb. I have over 200 paid apps that were never converted from 32-bit to 64-bit. So, I use them as storage devices. Most of the apps were purchased for my kids when they were younger but now 2 out 3 have graduated and the youngest graduates next year soooo.... I enjoy wonder apps that no longer exist like BookWorm, Shadow Guardian, RE Degeneration, MarvelvsCapcom etc... too many to list. Keeping those iPads until the wheel fall off..lol
 
I’d rather find a specific purpose for it than just give it to Apple for free.

Even as a wall clock it has some value. Apple doesn’t pay you for recycling it. I would never give anything to Apple to recycle for free.
My Air2's battery bulged and pushed the screen out a good quarter inch about two weeks ago. Apple took it for recycling no issues. Would of loved to keep it but was happy there was an option available to recycle it responsively.
 
I just upgrade my iPad when it makes sense and sell the old one.

That being said, my iPad Air 4th gen that I gave to my girlfriend years ago is now serving as a white noise machine for our newborn.

She upgraded to the 13" M4 iPad Pro and we kinda forgot that Air was still floating around until now.
 
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My Air2's battery bulged and pushed the screen out a good quarter inch about two weeks ago. Apple took it for recycling no issues. Would of loved to keep it but was happy there was an option available to recycle it responsively.
Yeah , if it breaks in any way it doesn’t make sense. I also took an iPad 4th-gen to Apple for recycling many years ago. The device was dead and couldn’t be repaired. Apple offered a new one for something ridiculous like $450, which obviously doesn’t make sense. The base 6th-gen iPad was available for $329. I think this was back in 2019.

Otherwise I would’ve kept it, if the device can be used for literally anything (so, if it isn’t physically broken and works properly), regardless of how old it is, I’d keep it. I can find a purpose for it later.
 
I still have my 12.9 (3rd gen)I bought in 2018
Runs like a champ, never getting rid of it
 
I have 2 bricked 7th Generation iPads I plan to sell for parts (bootlooping issue). If they did work, at best I would be using mine for my home assistant (open source smart home system) so I can control my lights and music. And maybe as a remote for my Mac when I watch movies from my Jellyfin server.
 
My m1 5th gen air is not old by the standards here but I plan to keep it as long as I can. Recently I had about 43gb of my base 64gb allotted to system files and OS. I decided to back up and delete or reset the iPad and now that has about 20gb between the two.

I was thinking that my iPad was being forced into obsolescence due to the storage constraints.

So now I have a decent amount of free space and with m1 and 8gb ram should keep going for another several years.

One of the great things about Apple hardware is generally how well it is made and how long it lasts. So with care maybe I can get 10 years of decent use out of it.

Using our hardware as long as feasible is always better both for the environment and your return on investment.
 
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