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(The thread is still about fun safe uses for old iPads, it’s not about what you want to hijack it to talk about.)

Thanks to everyone who cares enough about our environment to put off discarding their still useful electronics!

Incidentally yesterday I also found that the old safari browser still streams shoutcast music just fine so another fun safe use for an old iPad!

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Yeah, the issue is that iPads go from “a device you can use for all your needs” to “a device which you have to pick specific tasks for”. Eventually, it gets to the point where so many of the bullet points of your usage pattern are gone that it’s practically pure constraints and impediments.

Some websites work (and that number will drop precipitously once the iOS version is old enough). Some apps work. Some games work. So you adjust your usage pattern to that which works. When it gets difficult enough, you have to get a new device and keep the older iPad for that specific pattern if you like. And the end result is the same. Sure, I’d never throw an iPad into a landfill, but I’d do that even if it didn’t work at all.

The only thing you can do is to find a usage pattern that works. Some people use them as photo albums, but it’s no longer an iPad, it’s a photo frame. Some people use them as music devices, but it’s no longer an iPad, it’s an mp3 player.

I never update iOS. I’ve been using original iOS versions since 2011. If I want to use an iPad like I want to use it, circumventing these issues once they get tough enough gets really old, really fast. Especially if you have other devices, which you HAVE to buy. You need access to your primary, full usage pattern at all times, anyway. If I cannot have 95% of my usage pattern, I might as well stop using the iPad completely.

The only aspect I can think of is a game. Say, so as not to drain battery life on a newer iPad I can use an older one, so that if I drain battery life on an older iPad it doesn’t matter as much.

But there’s only so much you can do, and like I said, if you lose enough of your usage pattern, then you might as well just use your primary iPad. Safari’s access pretty much collapses eventually. You can read with older iPads too, with apps like iBooks, that’s something else that won’t collapse.
 
Yeah, the issue is that iPads go from “a device you can use for all your needs” to “a device which you have to pick specific tasks for”. Eventually, it gets to the point where so many of the bullet points of your usage pattern are gone that it’s practically pure constraints and impediments.

Some websites work (and that number will drop precipitously once the iOS version is old enough). Some apps work. Some games work. So you adjust your usage pattern to that which works. When it gets difficult enough, you have to get a new device and keep the older iPad for that specific pattern if you like. And the end result is the same. Sure, I’d never throw an iPad into a landfill, but I’d do that even if it didn’t work at all.

The only thing you can do is to find a usage pattern that works. Some people use them as photo albums, but it’s no longer an iPad, it’s a photo frame. Some people use them as music devices, but it’s no longer an iPad, it’s an mp3 player.

I never update iOS. I’ve been using original iOS versions since 2011. If I want to use an iPad like I want to use it, circumventing these issues once they get tough enough gets really old, really fast. Especially if you have other devices, which you HAVE to buy. You need access to your primary, full usage pattern at all times, anyway. If I cannot have 95% of my usage pattern, I might as well stop using the iPad completely.

The only aspect I can think of is a game. Say, so as not to drain battery life on a newer iPad I can use an older one, so that if I drain battery life on an older iPad it doesn’t matter as much.

But there’s only so much you can do, and like I said, if you lose enough of your usage pattern, then you might as well just use your primary iPad. Safari’s access pretty much collapses eventually. You can read with older iPads too, with apps like iBooks, that’s something else that won’t collapse.
That's the nature of any computer hitting the geriatric stage of its life cycle, though, isn't it? Regardless of whether or not you update the OS, the things you can do with that device start shrinking. I still have my OG iPad, and a year or two ago I fired it back up for a bit of nostalgia. Physically it is in much better shape than my iPad Air 2 is, being such a bulkier, more robust device, but while the screen was good back in 2010, standards have shifted. Anyway, I couldn't do much with it, so I put it away again. Maybe I could set it up as a wall clock? There's not much else you can do with a 15 year old iPad.
 
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Here lies the problem - because if Apple allowed 3rd party OS’ to be loaded, there would be an entire open source community creating useful things for what is still a formidable device.
While I'm not going to join the chorus bashing Apple for their decisions, I will admit it would be nice to be able to have a few more options for old Apple gear. It's usually so well made it's still functional long past its usable lifespan, like my 2012 MacBook Air that I gave to my brother last year, that he's still using, or my 2008 iMac that I occasionally pull out to use when I need to access some files from that decade, once every year or two. I feel that app support is the factor that stops them being useful. It would be pretty gratifying to pull out my 2010 iPad, put in a new battery, and find a use for it. I hope I can get an M3 iPad Air by the end of the year, and that it is as well made as the original iPad!

Actually, changing OS would make my 2008 iMac LESS useful to me, since I need it to occasionally run applications so old they won't even work on Catalina.

The one that is surprising me the most is my Series 2 Apple Watch. I got it second hand off a friend, and it is a refurb. It's clearly had a new battery too, at some stage, because it's still chugging away, happily taking my pulse, tracking my walks, notifying me, and telling me the time. I don't have a good case to upgrade, because even though I want some of the features of the current series, it just works too well to justify replacing!
 
Here lies the problem - because if Apple allowed 3rd party OS’ to be loaded, there would be an entire open source community creating useful things for what is still a formidable device.
Much worse than that!
Apple forbids you to download the old version of a software that would run on your old iPad if you had not downloaded it when it was current.
On the top of it, they have deliberately cut the maps capability on older devices fully preventing their usage as navigation devices.
 
Actually, changing OS would make my 2008 iMac LESS useful to me, since I need it to occasionally run applications so old they won't even work on Catalina.
That's really a very old Mac. I won't give a penny for iMacs older than 2012, they are just great as heating devices.
But you get today iMac > 2012 for peanuts, which are ways more powerful and reliable.
And the best: they run perfectly non-Apple OSes, with which you can happily forget all compatibility hassles "made in Cupertino".
 
That's really a very old Mac. I won't give a penny for iMacs older than 2012, they are just great as heating devices.
But you get today iMac > 2012 for peanuts, which are ways more powerful and reliable.
And the best: they run perfectly non-Apple OSes, with which you can happily forget all compatibility hassles "made in Cupertino".
That’s great, but I still have occasional need of those applications that are so old they won’t run on my 2012 MacBook Air.
 
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