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rdillon2008

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I'm I the only one still using a 5w charging brick for my 11 pro max? I do not like fast charging my phone at all. Even now how the battery lasts so long, I don't need to fast charge.
 
You should try wireless charging...

It’s convenient, but a fairly slow method. I think wireless charging is nice to have when you’re in the dark, without having to search for the lightning port. But in general, I still find myself gravitating towards using a lightning cable/charging brick.
 
I tried the charging brick what came with my pro max and i felt the phone getting warm so i just started using the regular 5w
 
I'm still charging it wirelessly with my old slow charger, but I know I will use the fast charger in a panic sometime after forgetting to charge the phone overnight.
 
If you get the a decent wireless charger it will do 7.5w with apple Qi devices so its a bit better than standard 5w but not a dramatic fast charge, and also v convenient, just plonk it down and pick up after. However I have found some Qi chargers are not all 100% compatible. One I have (Choetech) works with my 8 but not 11 Pro, whereas my others (yootech) work with both fine. Also have Qi battery packs now.
 
You said this:



Aren’t there wireless charging battery examples/tests to show that it’s not healthy for the lithium ion wireless charging over the course of time? I believe there is.

Got any links? Why does the power source matter, for the same power input? Curious to know.
 
Got any links? Why does the power source matter, for the same power input? Curious to know.

There’s various YouTube videos you can easily research showing the battery degradation in terms of using wireless charging over the course of time, now, rather those results are consistent for everybody’s usage, it probably depends how much they’re using {wired versus wireless charging}. Not to mention, their overall battery health on the iPhone. With wireless charging, I do think the device becomes more ‘hot’, but the theory is, that it weakens the battery when the battery consistently warms up to a state where it would reach beyond operating temperatures. Plus, there are some shotty third-party wireless charges on the market that I would stray away from, resulting in that very own issue.
 
Haven’t tried the new charger. Using my old slow wireless. Works just fine. I’m sticking with it.
 
Seeing that many of you upgraded from an X or an XS to the pro and generally upgrade every year or two, does it really matter the charging method? Is this to increase resale value or why the large concern over minor degradation?
 
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Seeing that many of you upgraded from an X or an XS to the pro and generally upgrade every year or two, does it really matter the charging method? Is this to increase resale value or why the large concern over minor degradation?

I am sure when you selling your old devices yearly;no one wants to buy a phone for good value at 95% and under battery health. I use the 5w charger on my XS MAX and keep it charged between 40-85%. I sold it for $950 at 98% battery health. The person did check the health before purchasing as well. I usually charge once every 24 hrs on that phone so imagine how much times I will charge now on this. I am currently 55% battery life and I was off the charger from 1am this morning.
 
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I just use a wireless charger. It might not be the best method, but it’s the most convenient for me. If I needed to charge quickly for whatever reason I have the fast charger right next to it.
 
My XR (after a year of exclusively fast charging with my MBP charger and what I believe is 12W charging on my VW’s infotainment system) was at 350 cycles, 96% and the battery lasted just as long as when I got it.

It’s a phone and it’s disposable.

To the person above saying you got at best $50 more for your iPhone (I’m a bit skeptical that anyone would buy a year-old XS with only $100 depreciation but OK): is that $50 worth having to wait 4 hours for the battery to charge EVERY TIME instead of 30 mins so you can be on your way sooner? Don’t nickle and dime yourself on things like this. Life is short. Plus it’s hugely ineffective.
 
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Why does the power source matter, for the same power input?
Wireless charging is less efficient, so there's more heat generation. Instead of electricity flowing from copper to copper, it's moving though plastic and glass, two things that don't like to transfer electricity.
 
I am also planning on using my old and trusted 5W charger when I get my 11 Pro Max next month, mainly because the charger is tucked in behind the bed frame and I have no good way to take it out without wasting good 30 minutes to move some bedroom furniture and bed frame.
 
The slower the charge, the easier it is on the battery over time.

That is not the only variable, however. Cycle count is important. Deep discharges and heat play into it as well.

For long term use, a 5w charger and keeping the battery between 40% and 80% will generally provide the best longevity for a battery.

For what it’s worth, we are talking about relatively small percentages of battery health and capacity; maybe 5% over a year.

Just use the phone and enjoy it. A fast charge when you need it, or when you want it, won’t kill your phone. You’re talking about probably 2 years of usage before you’re wanting to change the battery; you’d change it whether or not you were fast charging. Cycle count is what truly matters.
 
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I can’t remember the last time I used the 5w iPhone charger. I almost always plug into a multi-port power hub (Anker)... and before that, I’d usually use an iPad charger (12w).

I did try fast charging my XS Max and did not like how hot it got, so I never got into a habit of fast charging. Nice to have the option, though.
 
My XR (after a year of exclusively fast charging with my MBP charger and what I believe is 12W charging on my VW’s infotainment system) was at 350 cycles, 96% and the battery lasted just as long as when I got it.

It’s a phone and it’s disposable.

To the person above saying you got at best $50 more for your iPhone (I’m a bit skeptical that anyone would buy a year-old XS with only $100 depreciation but OK): is that $50 worth having to wait 4 hours for the battery to charge EVERY TIME instead of 30 mins so you can be on your way sooner? Don’t nickle and dime yourself on things like this. Life is short. Plus it’s hugely ineffective.

I live in the Bahamas and to buy a phone like what I had would cost $1500. I paid $1340 for a 256gb xs max
 
I can’t remember the last time I used the 5w iPhone charger. I almost always plug into a multi-port power hub (Anker)... and before that, I’d usually use an iPad charger (12w).

I did try fast charging my XS Max and did not like how hot it got, so I never got into a habit of fast charging. Nice to have the option, though.
Same. Have been using iPad chargers for years. Never noticed any major degradation. Then again, usually upgrade annually to every 2 years.
 
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Why aren't you using the new charger? I don't understand. I thought this waswhat people had been pushing for Apple to include.

It was what people were pushing Apple to do. Could you imagine if the iPhone 11 Pro’s did not come with fast chargers?!?! People complained all the time about Apple only including the “5w Cube.”

Now Apple adds it, and people do not want to use it. Also, remember that there is a new feature that learns your schedule and will charge up to 80%, and then trickle charge to 100% by the time you wake up.

ALSO, remember Apple added both software AND hardware monitoring to make sure your battery lasts as long as possible.

Just enjoy your iPhones! For most people (like me who upgrades outright every year) the iPhone battery will be absolutely fine and then next September, you will get a new iPhone with a 100% Maximum battery.

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