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Also, remember that there is a new feature that learns your schedule and will charge up to 80%, and then trickle charge to 100% by the time you wake up

I’m not sure it is even “trickle” charging past 80%. It may well be fast charging past 80% to coincide with the time you start using or unplug your charger every day. The 80% limit seems to keep the phone off of a continuous 100% add/deplete cycle when left on the charger.
 
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I'm I the only one still using a 5w charging brick for my 11 pro max? I do not like fast charging my phone at all. Even now how the battery lasts so long, I don't need to fast charge.


I am using the 5w charger too. Trying to keep my battery healthy. I am maintaining 30-90%. And only charging every other day.
 
I’ve been using an Anker 2 port 60w usb-c charger for my 12.9 IPP and XS Max. Have never fealt either get warm or heat up.
When my 11 Pro Max shows up I will continue to use this charger. I’ll stick the Apple 18w charger in my travel case.
 
I'm I the only one still using a 5w charging brick for my 11 pro max? I do not like fast charging my phone at all. Even now how the battery lasts so long, I don't need to fast charge.

Still doing the same most of the time. Occasionally break out the 12W iPad adapter.
 
I use a 12w for the most part. I already have an assortment of cables and bricks around my house. The new brick and cable are still in the box.

when something breaks I’ll add it into the rotation.
 
To be fair, we're talking about a VERY SMALL group of anal-retentive people that prefer to charge at lower wattage. I'm sure 99% of iPhone 11 Pro users are using the 18w charger and thrilled to have the faster charging performance.

Is there a conversation where people don't have to insult others during a sensible conversation?
 
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Is there a conversation where people don't have to insult others during a sensible conversation?

Wasn't insulting. Not trying to anyway. I'm as anal-retentive as anyone. I was simply saying that the general population is happily using their 18w chargers and enjoying the faster charging performance while a very small percentage of people choose to charge at lower wattage to preserve the battery.
 
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The tiny 5 watt charger was initially designed for the tiny 1420mAh battery in the iPhone 4.

The iPhone 11 Pro Max's battery size is 3969mAh. That's 2.8X bigger. Also it's a more modern battery that can tolerate higher charging current.

If doing just the straight math, not accounting for the newer battery chemistry, the Pro Max needs a 14 watt charger just to be on par with what the iPhone 4 got a zillion years ago.

The only thing the 5 watt charger brings to the Pro Max is wasted time.
At the very least, use the 12 watt iPad charger. That's a better match for gentle charging the Pro Max
 
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The tiny 5 watt charger was initially designed for the tiny 1420mAh battery in the iPhone 4.

The iPhone 11 Pro Max's battery size is 3969mAh. That's 2.8X bigger. Also it's a more modern battery that can tolerate higher charging current.

If doing just the straight math, not accounting for the newer battery chemistry, the Pro Max needs a 14 watt charger just to be on par with what the iPhone 4 got a zillion years ago.

The only thing the 5 watt charger brings to the Pro Max is wasted time.
At the very least, use the 12 watt iPad charger. That's a better match for gentle charging the Pro Max

I use the 5w charger and relax and watch a movie for 1.5 hours until it reaches 80 or 85%.Then wait until another day to charge again. I am never in a rush.
 
I have used the ipad charger in the past. And I did buy a anker fast charger but keep that in my travel trailer. I almost always use the 5w charger and it's always worked well for me.
 
If your keeping the device long term, then the 5w charger will likely improve battery health however even using the fast charger shouldn’t cause damage as it regulates the charger current so if it’s not needed, it won’t take any power.
 
To be fair, we're talking about a VERY SMALL group of anal-retentive people that prefer to charge at lower wattage. I'm sure 99% of iPhone 11 Pro users are using the 18w charger and thrilled to have the faster charging performance.

Guilty and feeling no shame.

Wasn't insulting. Not trying to anyway. I'm as anal-retentive as anyone. I was simply saying that the general population is happily using their 18w chargers and enjoying the faster charging performance while a very small percentage of people choose to charge at lower wattage to preserve the battery.

Didn't take it that way.

If your keeping the device long term, then the 5w charger will likely improve battery health however even using the fast charger shouldn’t cause damage as it regulates the charger current so if it’s not needed, it won’t take any power.

I'm a 5W user, but will say that with current battery materials and the very well-designed charge controllers that Apple and many other manufacturers use today, I really don't think we're preserving battery life to any meaningful extent. It's more of a habit for me, and having owned a XS Max last year and charged it mostly on the 5W adapter, it never inconvenienced me.
 
There’s various YouTube videos you can easily research showing the battery degradation in terms of using wireless charging over the course of time, now, rather those results are consistent for everybody’s usage, it probably depends how much they’re using {wired versus wireless charging}. Not to mention, their overall battery health on the iPhone. With wireless charging, I do think the device becomes more ‘hot’, but the theory is, that it weakens the battery when the battery consistently warms up to a state where it would reach beyond operating temperatures. Plus, there are some shotty third-party wireless charges on the market that I would stray away from, resulting in that very own issue.
Be careful believing YouTube videos. As a electrical engineer by education, this seems like nonsense. Also, according to this, it is nonsense. While I don’t trust this website, their sources and conclusion makes sense.
 
Wireless charging is less efficient, so there's more heat generation. Instead of electricity flowing from copper to copper, it's moving though plastic and glass, two things that don't like to transfer electricity.

Well it looks like Apple have taken some action on this with iOS 13.1... I have wireless chargers capable of doing 7.5w with iPhones. Just tested on iOS 13.0 and they were delivering about 7w when battery about 60-70%. Upgraded to iOS 13.1 and exact same setup now charges at about 4.9w. Appears apple has blocked the slightly faster charging of non-certified devices. Although this helps with the less efficient power transfer and heat I suppose.My phone really doesn’t get hot at all after hours on the wireless charge stand.
 
I plug my phone in or set it on a wireless charger. I am at the point that I have no idea if it is 5, 7.5, 10, 12, 18, 30, 61 or 85w power source. As long as the phone charges I am happy
 
Well it looks like Apple have taken some action on this with iOS 13.1... I have wireless chargers capable of doing 7.5w with iPhones. Just tested on iOS 13.0 and they were delivering about 7w when battery about 60-70%. Upgraded to iOS 13.1 and exact same setup now charges at about 4.9w. Appears apple has blocked the slightly faster charging of non-certified devices. Although this helps with the less efficient power transfer and heat I suppose.My phone really doesn’t get hot at all after hours on the wireless charge stand.

How can you determine what rate it's charging at?
 
I'm using either my MBP or 5w charger to charge my Max. I'm paranoid I get a swelling battery again, like I did on my X. I was using a Samsung wireless charger with the X, which may have be the cause of the swollen battery?
 
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