Strange Launch..Some Thoughts..

[thomasfxlt58]

I get your point but you don't think the hundreds of thousands of orders placed by these same people are holding up shipments to people that got up just as early? It just shifted the problem and probably made it worse because now you don't actually have to go to a store to buy one to scalp it.

Life isn't always fair, and by saying one person is loyal versus another persons loyalty, you just create another class that you seem to railing against elsewhere. You aren't Beyonce and don't have the sway or importance that she does in many circles. It's brilliant marketing for them to give them away, and feels very Nike to me.

Additionally, by keeping stock to pre-orders and online only it actually creates a huge preference for those that went online and ordered early. They don't have to hold back hundreds of thousands of stock for the stores. The lines around the stores have a huge percentage of paid chinese and asian americans that wait in line, buy one, hand it off to a person waiting a few blocks away to be sold on the secondary market. Holding back to online only prevents this, and ensures an even greater stock to those that go online. It's win-win.

 

[CooKieMoNs7eR]

Life isn't always fair, and by saying one person is loyal versus another persons loyalty, you just create another class that you seem to railing against elsewhere. You aren't Beyonce and don't have the sway or importance that she does in many circles. It's brilliant marketing for them to give them away, and feels very Nike to me.

Additionally, by keeping stock to pre-orders and online only it actually creates a huge preference for those that went online and ordered early. They don't have to hold back hundreds of thousands of stock for the stores. The lines around the stores have a huge percentage of paid chinese and asian americans that wait in line, buy one, hand it off to a person waiting a few blocks away to be sold on the secondary market. Holding back to online only prevents this, and ensures an even greater stock to those that go online. It's win-win.

Do you realize there are people who ordered within the first 5 min and their CC still haven't even been charged yet? but someone who ordered a day before release gets their watch the next day....that doesn't bother you?

 

[Lustan]

I liked how matty.p tries to associate loyal apple fans as being a class but then puts up Beyonce who is in another class (the rich and famous btw) and says she deserves special treatment.

 

[matty.p]

Do you realize there are people who ordered within the first 5 min and their CC still haven't even been charged yet? but someone who ordered a day before release gets their watch the next day....that doesn't bother you?

Not really if it is a different SKU. I haven't really seen any evidence of shipping out of order within the same models and SKUs.

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I liked how matty.p tries to associate loyal apple fans as being a class but then puts up Beyonce who is in another class (the rich and famous btw) and says she deserves special treatment.

Not at all, I'm simply stating that rewarding "loyalty" creates the same type of class that already exist. You can rail against celebrity gifts but then demand loyal customers be rewarded.

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I get your point but you don't think the hundreds of thousands of orders placed by these same people are holding up shipments to people that got up just as early? It just shifted the problem and probably made it worse because now you don't actually have to go to a store to buy one to scalp it.

The difference is the tracking by Apple restricts the number of orders per person. It's much more difficult to create hundreds of CC's, addresses, names, etc. Than to pay people in cash to wait in a line for a few hours each day and simply collect them afterwards.

Here's an example of what happened here in Portland, http://www.oregonlive.com/silicon-forest/index.ssf/2014/10/sharks_circle_apples_downtown.html

 

[thomasfxlt58]

Mobilizing live bodies to stand in line is an exponentially smaller problem compared with a universe of people with an internet connection, their own credit cards etc. I'm not sure where these masses of scalpers hang out, but they're not where I've stood in line for each iPhone launch. Also, you can't pay in cash online so make live purchases during the launch phase CC only... and explain why!!

Get watches in the stores Apple. This Wizard of Oz stuff is dumb.

Not really if it is a different SKU. I haven't really seen any evidence of shipping out of order within the same models and SKUs.

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Not at all, I'm simply stating that rewarding "loyalty" creates the same type of class that already exist. You can rail against celebrity gifts but then demand loyal customers be rewarded.

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The difference is the tracking by Apple restricts the number of orders per person. It's much more difficult to create hundreds of CC's, addresses, names, etc. Than to pay people in cash to wait in a line for a few hours each day and simply collect them afterwards.

Here's an example of what happened here in Portland, http://www.oregonlive.com/silicon-forest/index.ssf/2014/10/sharks_circle_apples_downtown.html

 

[tmiw]

I got a confirmation email at 12:04:10AM for my 42mm SG. I'm fine with the watch coming on May 8th (hopefully earlier though) if that's ultimately what happens. Later deliveries of the exact same watch in the same country as me shouldn't be getting shipped sooner than mine though, and that's what seems to be bugging people more than anything else.

 

[designer1984]

You aren't Beyonce and don't have the sway or importance that she does in many circles. It's brilliant marketing for them to give them away, and feels very Nike to me.

Nike? More like Beats! (Cough cough)

Celebrity endorsements are exactly why Beats became the company it is (or was, now that Apple own 'em?) Quite frankly, if this is how Apple decides to market their brand new product, all the better to them. Guys, they ain't makin tech just for the early adopters anymore; that ended years ago. Today, Apple's trying to get tech into everyone's hands, and they're doing a damn good job at it!