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I had a professor tell me to stop using my phone in class. I told him to go screw himself, I pay for this class, I can take notes however I like; and that was the end of that conversation.

I did however get a D of the first test and had to drop the course :p

That's funny, you think your tuition is what actually pays your professor's salary
 
That's funny, you think your tuition is what actually pays your professor's salary

What is truly funny is that he never actually said that his tuition pays for the professor's salary. All he said was that he paid for the class. Unless there was some sort of agreement that phones were not allowed in class, I think using your phone is fine.

Personally, I think taking notes on an iPhone would be way too difficult and wouldn't really help. The fact that the guy got a D on his first exam proves that there are probably better ways to take notes than to use a phone.
 
Personally, I think taking notes on an iPhone would be way too difficult and wouldn't really help. The fact that the guy got a D on his first exam proves that there are probably better ways to take notes than to use a phone.

That doesn't prove anything. His study habits are probably just really poor. I've gotten bad grades on exams from using a laptop to write down notes or using pen and paper. It doesn't prove that those aren't good mediums though.
 
Why some of students taking notes in class with their iphones? Professors go crazy about it during the class. This just makes very uncomfortable to do anything in class. Please students... if you have iPhones and taking notes in class with your iphones.... Please stop.

and why should anybody on this forum listen to you?

who are you?
 
I find most professors don't really care what you do, there are however some who are stuck in the 'old days' of no technology. I recently had a professor in a 150 seat lecture hall cover his technology ban for 10+ minutes, "No cell phones, PDA's, ear buds, bluetooths, wifi, laptops, tablets, if I see you using any of these, particularly cell phones your grade at the end of the term will be rounded down!", 5 minutes later he interrupts his lecture, points at kid sitting mid row "I SAW YOU PUT THAT IN YOUR MOUTH, SWALLOW IT NOW! THERE WILL BE NO GUM OR HALLS ALLOWED!"

I am always very respectful of my professors and have never had an issue with them, but respect is a 2 way street, if I had been the person to be spoken to like that, there definitely would have been an issue both during and after class. When you cross over that line of being "the professor of the class" and a modern day hitler or someone who feels they have the right to treat students as sub-beings, then it's only a matter of time until you say the wrong thing to the wrong person and get put in your place.

Too many teachers seem to place a high level of important on banning laptops because some kids use them to surf, play games, etc; ultimately when I'm paying the kind of money for my education I have come to expect that in a large class I am able to type notes, especially given those types of professors NEVER post any notes or slides of any sort, kind of an oxy moron. "I want you to learn, just not efficiently"

I can completely understand in a small class, not allowing laptops or excessive use. I have a 4th year class with 7, yes 7 people in it and the teacher is older but a super cool guy, he gives us a level of respect and understanding and in turn he has become one of my favorite teachers.

It's ironic, because in the same class I was seated beside some guy who was WAY too big for those lecture seats and taking up half my area, at that time I would have found it much less distracting to have some kid on his laptop, listening to music, and texting all at the same time, as opposed to some fat kid constantly bumping my arm as I'm trying to take notes.
 
Why some of students taking notes in class with their iphones? Professors go crazy about it during the class. This just makes very uncomfortable to do anything in class. Please students... if you have iPhones and taking notes in class with your iphones.... Please stop.

You're not my mother. Don't tell me what to do.
 
...ultimately when I'm paying the kind of money for my education I have come to expect that in a large class I am able to type notes, especially given those types of professors NEVER post any notes or slides of any sort....

Proably those professors, like me, received their education in the days when academics used to say listen with your mind, not your pen. These old-fashioned academics tend to think that mental discipline should be part of higher education, and that an educated person should be able to sustain their attention for more than 60 seconds at a go. Otherwise, we graduate knowledgable students who can't focus. Uh, wait... what was the topic of this thread?
 
I pay for myself (albeit through student loans) and I feel a can take notes however I want. Lecturers have asked me to put my phone away but I point out that I'm using it for educational purposes (either note taking or using it to look up terms etc). They protest but I point out that I pay for the course and have the right to take notes as I see fit.

However, if the syllabus says no cell phones, electronics, etc, and you do not abide by it, the professor has every right to throw your a$$ out of class or point out your rudeness to the others in class. Just because you pay for a class does not give you the right to do as you please while in class. There are rules.The professor sets the rules, and the students abide by them (usually). The reason for all this is the small amount of students who (gasp!) do not actually take notes or look up terms. They surf the web and generally wind up disrupting class. It always makes me laugh when students start crying "but, I (meaning Mommy and Daddy) am paying for this class, and I can do as I please." Fine then, please leave. Just sayin'...:D
 
I had a professor tell me to stop using my phone in class. I told him to go screw himself, I pay for this class, I can take notes however I like; and that was the end of that conversation.

I did however get a D of the first test and had to drop the course :p

You thought you were being funny and cool by telling the professor to go screw himself. Yet he had the final laugh by giving you D. I guess you need more lessons in the school of you reap what you sow. Like any person in position of authority, he had final say.
 
I find that those profs who do take issue to outside technology and entertainment are the ones who would place themselves upon a pedestal; sometimes they're rolling in grant money, sometimes they just think they're infallible, regardless though, they're typically disconnected from reality in some way by an overinflated sense of self.

The bottom line is this; in the end, a student is a customer, and the customer is usually right. A university is a business at the end of the day, it has and always will be, so don't try to make it into something different. Those students that pay do have the right to those services, and some leniency to use them how they see fit. To assume it is plausible or reasonable to ban an item or action that is not disruptive to the overall class simply based on one professors whims is entirely unreasonable. Usually those that try to justify it are the ones that attempt to enforce such draconian measures. If a student is not disrupting the session, and therefore are not impeding other's paid-for learning, then they are only wasting their own money, something that shouldn't be a concern for a professor. Only when it is disruptive to others should it be considered a problem; they're adults, they can make their own choices, good or bad.
 
The bottom line is this; in the end, a student is a customer, and the customer is usually right. A university is a business at the end of the day, it has and always will be, so don't try to make it into something different. Those students that pay do have the right to those services, and some leniency to use them how they see fit.

We're not talking about cashiers at 7-11 arguing with a customer, but a professor who's job is not to consider the customer is right or placate his customers needs, but rather teach/instruct the students in the best method he believes.

To that end, its really up to the professor to dictate what he thinks is appropriate in the classroom. I think most professors will be open to any method that helps a student learn, but I think with the iPhone many people are concerned that the student's are playing games/watching videos and not learning. Now in isloation this probably not a problem but if someone is playing a game, others may be peering over his/her should and that is disruptive as now other students are not paying attention.

The mentality to always consider someone a customer, does not fit in schools, students are that, students charged with learning not being a customer and to that end a professor really has final say of what's appropriate in his classroom. Of course if anyone disagrees with a professor he's free to drop the class.
 
We're not talking about cashiers at 7-11 arguing with a customer, but a professor who's job is not to consider the customer is right or placate his customers needs, but rather teach/instruct the students in the best method he believes.

To that end, its really up to the professor to dictate what he thinks is appropriate in the classroom. I think most professors will be open to any method that helps a student learn, but I think with the iPhone many people are concerned that the student's are playing games/watching videos and not learning. Now in isloation this probably not a problem but if someone is playing a game, others may be peering over his/her should and that is disruptive as now other students are not paying attention.

The mentality to always consider someone a customer, does not fit in schools, students are that, students charged with learning not being a customer and to that end a professor really has final say of what's appropriate in his classroom. Of course if anyone disagrees with a professor he's free to drop the class.

I think our differences lie in where the responsibility should settle, and to whether a student is more of a customer or a child; you seem to support a professor centric system where the responsibility of teaching and learning (and dictation of classroom conditions) falls upon the professor, whereas I'm more of the opinion that it is the students responsibility to learn the material, and that the professor shouldn't restrict material based on what they want. If they goof off, play games, or do whatever, it's their fault; the onus of learning the material and meeting the course requirements is their problem. That is in essence, because they're the customer, and, as you said, the professor is just going to do his job. This is where the media usage comes in; as long as it's not disrupting others (which is key), it shouldn't be an issue; the student is the consumer, and in essence the professor is still the "cashier." The cashier may have certain requirements, but as long as you don't cheat, steal, or disturb others, you can generally do what you'd like. It should be noted that the professor is still subservient to the students in the end; if there's too much of a negative response, either through student feedback or skewed grades, there will be administrative action. I've seen a professor denied tenure for it, another one fired by unanimous decision (he had tenure), and another blacklisted into a terrible lab with little to no say in what he gets relegated to do. Of course this happens only with the extremes, but to say that the professor can do whatever he wants and get away with it is absurd; only things within reason, just like the cashier.

It's a bit tangential, but lets look it at from a different perspective. Suppose you go to the movie theater. You're paying for the movie, and therefore are entitled to certain services and standard of quality, yet you can still do what you please within reason. As long as you don't disturb other patrons, you can space out, text, do whatever (again, within reason, as with the classroom), without any impedance. If you don't get the entire experience from the movie, or miss part of it, that's your fault, not the movie theater's. The onus is on you to glean what you will from the paid service, with you being able to do what you like in the mean time. I view education in similar fashion; everything within reason of course.

I guess the point I'm trying to get at is that media usage in the classroom shouldn't be one of those banned or restricted items considered unreasonable for educational use. If they want to use it, even to play games, they should be able to use it; the consequences are their own as they're the paying patron.
 
I am more interested in how he was using his iphone. Was he quietly taking notes or was he disrupting others? At the moment we have only one side to the story. As a teacher there are sometimes incidents that I deal with that seem quite petty on paper but actually a student is disrupting a lesson deliberately or challenging my authority and I have to deal with it. If you are teaching a group of people, some pretty strong guidelines with regard to behaviour are needed if everyone's learning is to be considered.

In balance however, the screw you comment puts me on the side of the professor. Paying or not, that is not how a civilised person talks to someone else during this sort of disagreement.
 
Why some of students taking notes in class with their iphones? Professors go crazy about it during the class. This just makes very uncomfortable to do anything in class. Please students... if you have iPhones and taking notes in class with your iphones.... Please stop.

who gives a **** what professors think.

if i'm paying thousands of dollars to take a class, i'll take notes however the **** i want.
 
who gives a **** what professors think.

if i'm paying thousands of dollars to take a class, i'll take notes however the **** i want.
And you give the professor grief or be disrespectful, you'll enjoy a nice failing mark. The professor will get the last laugh
 
And you give the professor grief or be disrespectful, you'll enjoy a nice failing mark. The professor will get the last laugh

that professor can get off his ****ing high horse. if i do all the work on time and get good grades, the way I take my notes has no effect on my grade.

professors who think they are the law can go **** themselves. they aren't professors and don't care about educating their students, they just love their little power trip.

i'm a paying customer and therefore as long as i'm not effecting other customers (ie talking on my phone during class) i will do what I want to take notes. for example, my school REQUIRES all incoming students to purchase laptops. i take my laptop to class for notes. i have had a few professors who "don't allow laptops" in their class. i told them to go **** themselves, the school requires me to buy a laptop, i'm gonna use it for my classes. ended up doing fine in those classes so i dont really see an issue here other than the fact that professors need to be taken down a few pegs because they really think they're better than everyone else, when in reality they aren't.
 
Why? If you are paying for tuition and using your iphone to take notes, that is your right as long as it is not disruptive, which I can't imagine it would be

I don't see what's wrong about taking notes on an iPhone, but his reaction was childish.
 
The constant clicking from laptop keys make the iPhone a less disruptive way to take notes.

I was thinking that. Especially that one girl with the 3 inch fake nails or the really slow kid who presses one key every 10 seconds.
 
I don't text in class, and I can see how a lot of people think it would be disprespectful... but College is feeling more and more like high school. Contradicting my first statement - One time I sent a text in class and was baffled when she said she would take my phone up if she saw it again.

Excuse me? I pay good money to go to school (okay maybe, I don't but my scholarship does) but texting on my NON-click touch screen SILENT phone should not be an issue to you so why would you stop class to bitch. They even mention something after somebody walks out to go to the bathroom.

As long as your not talking disturbing the lesson, making noise with your phone, walking directly in front of the professor, etc it shouldn't be a problem. I should be able to get up and go to the bathroom if I please. And even IF I wanted to text the entire time it shouldn't be a problem. I don't know, maybe it's just me.
 
This thread just continues to show the decline of society. Kids think they can do whatever they want, etc.

Respect your professors and they will respect you back. People with the, " I paid money for this class so I can do whatever I want" entitlement need to wake up and smell reality. You may be paying big money for a college education, but it doesn't give you the right to be disrespectful to your professors who have a different education method then you do. If he doesn't allow laptops, he doesn't allow laptops. It sucks, but use pen/pencil and paper and move on.
 
This thread just continues to show the decline of society. Kids think they can do whatever they want, etc.

Respect your professors and they will respect you back. People with the, " I paid money for this class so I can do whatever I want" entitlement need to wake up and smell reality. You may be paying big money for a college education, but it doesn't give you the right to be disrespectful to your professors who have a different education method then you do. If he doesn't allow laptops, he doesn't allow laptops. It sucks, but use pen/pencil and paper and move on.

And this just proves the typical I don't know how to read a post in it's entirety before making an ignorant comment. Did I say I can do whatever I please? Or did I justify my statement by saying that I could understand if it were making noise, or if I got up and walked in front of the teacher then it would be an issue. If I'm doing my own thing texting, the professor doesn't need to stop the lesson to say something about it. As it stands, I don't. If I want to get up and use the bathroom, the professor doesn't need to talk behind the students back about how rude they are after leaving the room.

The only reason you didn't run into these issues "back in the day" is because you didn't these devices. Please, quit playing hero.
 
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