Studio Display Add-On Height-Adjustable Stand Costs an Extra $400, Nano-Texture Glass is $300

[lilkwarrior]

The price is probably appropriate, but still too high for my taste. I have a 250,- display, 27", IPS, 1440p, 75Hz, that will last a little longer. It's not retina, but it's good enough for text-based office work. And this new display would not even give me more screen real estate, "just" better quality!

Better quality is one of the core functionalites of a monitor. Get a 218 ppi monitor, and it's often a can't go back experience–especially if you use retina display iPads and iPhones already.

If you read a lot of text or audit visual details for a living, your eyes will thank you and it's worth it as a no-brainer to many meaningful creative professionals

 

[ColdShadow]

Far too expensive for what it is.

 

[samifathi]

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Would be interested in finding out if this monitor works with non-Apple devices as well.
My guess is, it will work but without the camera and speakers function since I believe Mac OS is specifically needed for those features.

The Pro Display XDR works with PCs, but as @ellsworth notes, the Studio Display is more than just a display. It has the A13, True Tone, camera, mic, etc. I've asked Apple about it and will put a post up once I hear back.

 

[OS X Dude]

Do you have any concerns about burn-in, when using it as a monitor?

THIS. OLED is horrible for monitor use. MicroLED will be a lot better.

 

[slal03]

I have been using the HP Envy 34 Curved Ultra wide all in one monitor for the last 3-4 years. Was a game changer back then and still going strong. Curved 34 Inch at 3440x1440 in 21:9 form makes for amazing productivity with multiple windows or wide video timelines. Built in B&O speakers. Built in webcam. All through a single USB C from my MacBook Pro. Admittedly it’s not 5K2K but it still does 100Hz through Free sync.

The new Apple Studio Display is almost great…

The number of USB C ports and the Thunderbolt are fantastic and a move in the right direction away from USB A!

Even better that a decent webcam is incorporated in the display (a lot of otherwise excellent external monitors lack this).

However the final pieces of the puzzle for me are

1) Curved 21:9 Ultra wide (so eyes aren’t constantly refocusing when looking at edges of the monitor)

2) 100-120Hz or greater (again reduces eye strain…pro motion is buttery smooth. I want it on my external monitor as well as my iPhone Pro, iPad Pro and MacBook Pro)

3) 38-40 inches (eg Dell U4021QW)

4) 5K2K or better (eg Dell U4021QW)

I agree Thunderbolt 4 doesn’t support the bandwidth required for 120Hz 5K2K.

But Thunderbolt 5 has already been leaked and will have 80Gbps!

For now I will stick with my HP Envy 34 All In One. I’m sure Samsung, Dell, LG or HP will fulfill the above in time.

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

How much? Wow... Even I am shocked that Apple continues to punish people choosing options. Wow... $500 wheels, $800 stands, $400 coatings, yikes...

 

[Abazigal]

How much? Wow... Even I am shocked that Apple continues to punish people choosing options. Wow... $500 dollar wheels, $800 stands, $400 coatings, yikes...

Sounds about right for an optional accessory.

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

Sounds about right for an optional accessory.

I could see $200 for the stand, but not $400. $100 for a coating, not $300. Seems high. But Apple always slams people wanting upgrades at time of purchase. Memory, etc...

 

[svish]

Ultra costly!! Should have been much cheaper.

 

[Enlightened Doggo]

Sounds about right for an optional accessory.

Maybe on a sports car.

 

[MacBH928]

With these prices I want 10 year guarantee on everything instant replacement.

 

[Cashmonee]

THIS. OLED is horrible for monitor use. MicroLED will be a lot better.

OLED burn in is really not a concern these days. There may be good reasons to prefer micro led over OLED but burn in isn’t one of them.

 

[Reason077]

I am in the need for a new external monitor. Any recommendations people have? I don't need 5k. Studio display seems very high priced to me even with my military discount.

If you're looking for value, DELL actually make a good line of USB-C monitors that work nicely with Macs. Nice features like 4K, HDR, 65W+ charging, etc in many of them, and decent height-adjustable stands with VESA compatibility.

Great image quality for the price. Just bear in mind that, in my experience, all 3rd-party monitors have absolutely crappy audio, and few have built-in cameras. This, plus the superior design/case quality, is what you're getting when you pay more for the Studio Display.

Other brands worth looking at include LG and BenQ.

 

[flapflapflap]

I'm very disappointed in the price of this display. It is a lovely display, to be sure — well worth the money. That said, creating two monitors for designers/developers and zero for average consumers is strange to me. There are many people who want a decent monitor (other than crappy LG or Dell monitors) that match their Apple computer. If it costs a bit more than one of those crappy $300 monitors, fine. The average consumer isn't going to spend $1500 on this monitor and doesn't need this level of a monitor. I guess I will keep waiting and hoping.

$300 gets you crappy. You will need to spend at least $500 for a decent monitor. There are some very nice ones that are in the $800-$1,100 range that offer the same features, if not more, aside from the A13 chip which may do some neat tricks for compatible iPads.

 

[flapflapflap]

What law states you need adjustable monitor stands for an office?

Perhaps some state law that is intended for the handicapped.

 

[flapflapflap]

Well at 27" you're not going to see the difference between 4k and 5k with the naked eye from viewing distance, so narrow your search to 4k IPS monitors with 120hz or higher refresh rates.

I disagree, I have the 34inch 5K2K which is actually 4K and I used it alongside my 5K iMac which I later sold. There is a noticeable difference but it’s not material in my mind. I am considering selling my 34inch 5K2K and picking up two of these Studio Displays. My employer is paying for 1.

 

[1BadManVan]

You are just a Windows fanboy. I can absolutely tell the difference between 109ppi and 218ppi. QHD is not adequate for a 27” display. 4K is.

I own an iPhone 13 pro max, an M1 iPad Pro that I use as a laptop and an Xbox series x. I haven’t owned a windows laptop in years. Keep talking though

 

[SlaveToSwift]

That's like saying "there's isn't anyone in the world selling a car whose wheel hubs use six lug nuts instead of five" and then trying to justify a $4000 upcharge on rims because "nobody else in the world sells rims with six lug nuts".

There is next to no benefit to having a 5k 27" monitor, other than to brag to your friends that you have a 5k 27" monitor.

Tell me what I need? I have a retina display and a 4k 27 inch Dell monitor. I have to run the 4k Dell in lower resolution where I can see much less code, or wear glasses. I never need glasses for the retina display.

And it's hard to have an informed dialog with someone who equates the technical difficulties of implementing a high end computer monitor with double the bandwidth requirements, requirements far higher than any existing connectors like thunderbolt even support, to the punching out another lug nut hole.

 

[SlaveToSwift]

Far too expensive for what it is.

It's a replacement for the LG 5K monitor, the only other 5k monitor available. For $400 more you get a brighter screen, better camera, better ports, more power to connected devices, higher quality aluminum body and build construction, better visual design and better Mac compatibility.

You can say it's "too expensive" if you don't think all those things are valuable, but you can't say its "far too expensive". If you were a creative professional or developer, you'd say $400 more for a monitor I'll use 5 to 10 years? Thats less than $7 per month, most likely $4 a month. If it makes me 1/30 of 1% more productive, no brainer.

 

[Cashmonee]

Tell me what I need? I have a retina display and a 4k 27 inch Dell monitor. I have to run the 4k Dell in lower resolution where I can see much less code, or wear glasses. I never need glasses for the retina display.

And it's hard to have an informed dialog with someone who equates the technical difficulties of implementing a high end computer monitor with double the bandwidth requirements, requirements far higher than any existing connectors like thunderbolt even support, to the punching out another lug nut hole.

What Retina display do you have? The Apple 5k display actually displays "like 1440p." So a QHD (1440p) 27" monitor will show exactly the same amount of stuff on a 27" 5k. The reason you do not need glasses is because the size of everything is QHD. That 4k monitor could also run at "looks like 1440p." The only real issue would be that macOS is not terribly good at non-integer scaling. Instead of designing macOS to work well at 4k resolution, Apple just pushes 5k monitors. The real issue of course is that Windows can scale to 4k well and so no one actually makes 5k monitors leaving macOS users with very few ideal choices.

 

[lilkwarrior]

OLED burn in is really not a concern these days. There may be good reasons to prefer micro led over OLED but burn in isn’t one of them.

OLED monitors are pretty much targeted only to pro users to avoid moronic use cases by average people to minimize warranty headaches. That said I and professional colleagues in creative and medical industries have used OLED monitors (even TVs like the LG 48" CX) with zero issues; I've used them for almost a decade (reference monitors, computer monitors, and TVs) They all have better quality in a variety of ways over MiniLED and LCD (including the Pro Display XDR).

OLED burn-in is highly overrated. Such panels only get bested by monitors like the Pro Display XDR because of PPI and sustained brightness reasons.

MicroLED is a long way of being affordable. If someone could get there first the next 3-5 years, it'll probably be Apple. Samsung has been aggressive, and it's not promising towards mainstream use.

 

[Cashmonee]

It's a replacement for the LG 5K monitor, the only other 5k monitor available. For $400 more you get a brighter screen, better camera, better ports, more power to connected devices, higher quality aluminum body and build construction, better visual design and better Mac compatibility.

You can say it's "too expensive" if you don't think all those things are valuable, but you can't say its "far too expensive". If you were a creative professional or developer, you'd say $400 more for a monitor I'll use 5 to 10 years? Thats less than $7 per month, most likely $4 a month. If it makes me 1/30 of 1% more productive, no brainer.

With these specs it is highly unlikely you will be using this monitor in 10 years. That is exactly why people are calling this monitor too expensive. The specs are already 5 years old. HDR, local dimming, and high refresh rates are all going to be pretty standard far sooner than 5-10 years. The Studio Display is already using outdated tech and is likely to really not age well.

 

[SlaveToSwift]

You’re going to tell me QHD is a terrible resolution for a monitor? Get real. Apple apologist

QHD is 2560 x 1440
4K is 3840 x 2160
5K is 5120 × 2880

Just going to 4K allows me to see 50% more code on my screen, which makes me more productive. It makes it easier for me to have windows along side my editor for documentation, messages, etc, again making me more productive.

The 5k Monitor can give me QHD window sizes at a much sharper resolution, so I don't have to wear glasses which is huge for me. Or I can put on the glasses and see twice as much code vertically and have even more side windows to maximize my productivity.

If you aren't a professional, I understand why it doesn't matter to you. But if I had the choice between a QHD monitor for $300 or a 5k monitor at $1600, the choice is a no brainer. The 5k monitor pays for itself easily within a year.

 

[antiprotest]

The Mac Elon.

 

[omicronx9]

QHD is 2560 x 1440
4K is 3840 x 2160
5K is 5120 × 2880

Just going to 4K allows me to see 50% more code on my screen, which makes me more productive. It makes it easier for me to have windows along side my editor for documentation, messages, etc, again making me more productive.

The 5k Monitor can give me QHD window sizes at a much sharper resolution, so I don't have to wear glasses which is huge for me. Or I can put on the glasses and see twice as much code vertically and have even more side windows to maximize my productivity.

If you aren't a professional, I understand why it doesn't matter to you. But if I had the choice between a QHD monitor for $300 or a 5k monitor at $1600, the choice is a no brainer. The 5k monitor pays for itself easily within a year.

Yeah because code understanding is definitely facilitated by how many LOC you see on a screen vs. the quality of the code written or the heaviness of the abstractions or quality of the naming it's using, right? Hell I could set font size to 12pt and use a 60" vertical monitor and evidently that would make me the most superhuman engineer on Earth.