Suggestions for PowerMac G5 DC 2.3GHz...

[Power Mac]

Just FYI, there are SSDs out there that have lower IOPS (read 4k random reads/writes, which is what the OS benefits from) than mechanical hard drives.

That is false information. Even an ancient 512MB USB2 stick performs better in 4k read performance. see attachment.

My system never came with the 6600LE.

If yous was a 2.0 as described, yes it did.

Oh BTW; Hello 300D again. Wondering how long it takes the mods this time to ban you. I give it two weeks, tops!

Your ignorance is astonishing. Go troll a different forum where people are less educated than yourself (if thats possible)

 

[Power Mac]

The card your getting/got is actually an x1900gt

X1900GTO actually. There was no GT for the G5 machines, only the MacPro.

 

[Nameci]

Yes, with much googling i found it out to be an ATI Radeon X1900GTO. You are right.

 

[adcx64]

Congrats on the new G5! I was thinking about picking one of these guys up, sometime in the future, if my parents decide to buy it for my graduation. I'm going for the 2.0 ghz dual core 2005 model.

 

[Electricidad]

I'm going for the 2.0 ghz dual core 2005 model.

Why? For a negligible price difference the 2.3 is significantly more powerful.

 

[brycemason]

I'm writing to back up Trans on his post about SSDs. I did a lot of reading about SSD and he's right, the first-generation SSD drives are so bad at random writes that they make the OS stutter. You can read about it at Anandtech. Or you can yell loudly that Anand knows nothing about his research.

For the unlearned about SSD, his two articles are epic and will give you a great intro to the technology.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2738

Just make sure you don't throw any old JMicron controller SSD in there or else you'll be dissatisfied.

 

[VanneDC]

lol, i know its a GTO, however system profiler (from memory) reports it as the X1900GT. 😀

at any rate, it truely is a great card and only marginally slower than the Nvidia Quadro. /Runs for cover/ 😱

boy, nice system your throwing together there Nameci, esp with the alu screen mate. You will love it.

Since ive sold my Quad G5, ive always missed the humm of the G5.

 

[Nameci]

Congrats on the new G5! I was thinking about picking one of these guys up, sometime in the future, if my parents decide to buy it for my graduation. I'm going for the 2.0 ghz dual core 2005 model.

Thanks.

With 2.0 DC or 2.3 DC you can't go wrong. They are still a workhorse. I am thinking for a quad rather than the dual core previously, but maintenance wise, an air-cooled system is much easier to maintain than a liquid cooled one, in my opinion.

 

[Electricidad]

the first-generation SSD drives are so bad at random writes that they make the OS stutter.

The likelihood of somebody buying such a drive is very small.

lol, i know its a GTO, however system profiler (from memory) reports it as the X1900GT.

No, its reported as...
ATI Radeon X1900 XT:

Chipset Model: ATY,RadeonX1900
Type: Display
Bus: PCIe
Slot: SLOT-1
PCIe Lane Width: x16
VRAM (Total): 256 MB
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
Device ID: 0x7240
Revision ID: 0x0000
ROM Revision: 113-A52070-109

 

[Nameci]

Now, I am getting excited. I can't wait to receive the card. It will be here on Thursday.

For the meantime I am contemplating on getting the 23" Al ACD or 2 x Acer 21" for cheap. With 23" ACD I will 1920 x 1200 single screen, with the Acer I will have 1920 x 1080 but twice the screen.

What d'ya think?

 

[brycemason]

The likelihood of somebody buying such a drive is very small.

Not if they are buying a PATA drive or are overly concerned with cost, which given the age of the machine, is a possibility. I do not know if the towers of the era were SATA/PATA, but please take care to get something that has a second-generation controller.

 

[Nameci]

Don't ya worry folks, I got my SSD with Sandforce 1222 controller on it. The one with the JMicron is on my "hack".

 

[Transporteur]

That is false information. Even an ancient 512MB USB2 stick performs better in 4k read performance. see attachment.

XBench. Nothing to add here! Just read anandtech (as recommended above).

If yous was a 2.0 as described, yes it did.

It came with the 256MB 6600. Horrible card btw If connected to a 30". It was later upgraded to an ATI 1900, which performed much better. Still, CPU performance was lousy.

Your ignorance is astonishing. Go troll a different forum where people are less educated than yourself (if thats possible)

Wow, didn't even take them an hour. Talking about trolls, welcome back as Electricidad...

 

[Bloodstar]

Now, I am getting excited. I can't wait to receive the card. It will be here on Thursday.

For the meantime I am contemplating on getting the 23" Al ACD or 2 x Acer 21" for cheap. With 23" ACD I will 1920 x 1200 single screen, with the Acer I will have 1920 x 1080 but twice the screen.

What d'ya think?

If you can use both of the 1920x1080 screens, go for them if you need the space. I've generally been told that Acer displays are decent.

 

[Electricidad]

Not if they are buying a PATA drive or are overly concerned with cost, which given the age of the machine, is a possibility.

No G5 has PATA unless you delete the optical drive.

XBench. Nothing to add here!

I'm happy you handle being disproved so easily.

It came with the 128MB 6600LE.

Thats correct.

 

[Nameci]

I have emailed the seller of the X1900 card, since it did not cross my mind that it should have the supply cable for the cooling fans. And I am right it shipped without the cable, great! Can I find it easily on the computer part shops?

 

[666sheep]

Can I find it easily on the computer part shops?

Rather on eBay.

 

[Electricidad]

Can I find it easily on the computer part shops?

Yes, very cheaply. Its known as a "PCIe power cable".
The cables 666sheep shows are very expensive. A computer shop will have it for under $5.

 

[VanneDC]

the one Sheepy linked is actually the one you need, unless you wanna rob power from the dvd slot with a splitter cable and then a pcie power cable..

the one Sheepy linked is the way to go. imo anyways...

 

[Nameci]

This one I got, bought it last night.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...367709&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_500wt_1156

 

[VanneDC]

Perfect mate!! 😀

 

[Nameci]

Hey guys, finally I got to install the card.

Man, it is noisy. I can hear the whine from the fans of the vid card.

Does it need a driver for the system to recognize it? It is not outputting any video and it is not identified on the system profiler.

System profiler says; pci1002,b12...

I have a feeling it is a flashed card but the part number says it is a mac edition. P/N 102A5202250. Can somebody confirm it?

 

[Nameci]

First, I want to extend much deserve thanks to zen.state on his replies to my pm's.

And to add, I have decided on getting a couple of 21.5" Acer G215H instead of bidding a 23" Al ACD on ebay. More screen real estate for less the price and it is brand new.

As for my ATI x1900, I figured that I don't have to put too much effort on this not functioning x1900 that I bought from ebay. Life is like a box full of chocolates, you will never know what you will get.

Is the x1900 cooling fan that loud? I really like a quite system. I am looking into an nVidia GeForce 7800 GTX 512MB for this DC 2.3GHz G5. Since these cards have coolings fans in them, it would not guarantee a quite operation am I right? If it will be louder than x1900, then I would stick with the former.

 

[VanneDC]

matey, its been a while, but my 1900 came with an ati driver disk that was required to get it to work properly... cant remeber if it was super loud without the disk, but its possible.


cheers

 

[cocacolakid]

Nameci, I did some Googling for you, ATI's website says, "AMD Radeon™ graphics drivers are included as part of the Apple Mac OS X installation. Please update or restore your Mac OS X installation to ensure you have the latest available drivers."

When you installed Leopard you had an NVidia card in, it likely didn't install ATI drivers.

Here is the ATI support page, once you select Mac Graphics and run through all the options for your system/GPU, that's the answer they give...

http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx