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Suggestions for PowerMac G5 DC 2.3GHz...

Nameci, i used to use my Quad for Vid encoding and playing games pretty much. Vid encoding was great on it, however held absolutely no candle to the Macpro 1,1 i updated to after selling the Quad.

As CPU power for me isnt really that important, (currently ripping Inception) to my drive on my DCPM, ill have it running in the background. This rip took about 5 hours to complete, so to me it neither matter much if its running in the background. (i could use ffmpeg and complete the rip in excellent quality in about 30 mins)

The real reason i didn't keep the Quad was due to Power use. Its a hungry beast and most of my stuff on the PPC side of things is just cruising mac rumors and general internetting. So as i said, its not about the cpu power for me. Most of the games i play on the PPC could run from my 1.25ghz Imac G4. But i gotta admit, having the extra eye candy on Kotor and Wolf/quake3 is nice. :)


The Quad, loved it, Didnt love the power bill. :)

Glad to hear you got the BT sorted out mate, ive heard before that the wires can be swapped.. :)
 
Good for me I am not paying the bills, my employers are... hehehehe :D

Although I really wanted a quad I am hesitant not because of the energy requirement but rather the maintainability of the LCS.

And besides this 2.3DC serves me well. The more that i use it everyday, the more I am confident that I would know how to fix it if there will be issues.

I have not encountered any issues that is worth to worry about so far...
 
Tucom said:
barkmonster, actually the drive I think would be epic for a G5 would be the VelociRaptors by Western Digital: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0..._m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0AFMKCXPHKK7Q3YZ2JR0


They incredibly well engineered - SERVER GRADE - 10,000RPM SATA II (now III) drives that hit just right around the peak of the SATA 150 interface in the G5's, offer more GB per dollar than SSDs, have a 5 year warranty, and in RAID 0 bootable would probably offer around a 300MB/s solid through put (seriously, these drives are faster than some older SSD's).


Or..then again...SSDs coming down in price would be an even better option IMO, but these VelociRaptors are pretty sweet drives.
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I boot from an 80Gb partition with about 30Gb free and then store all my files on the larger partition of the Caviar Black so I'd be fine with a small SSD of 60Gb or even 2 40Gb drives in a RAID 0 config in one of the ICYDOCK adapters as my boot drive and then using my current boot partition on the Caviar as my recording drive.

SSDs are measured in IOPs and hard drives in MS. IOPs mean a lot more than simply a high Mb/s on sustained files making an SSD the perfect boot drive. Even raptors in a RAID 0 config don't even come close to the 150Mb/s mark and a single SSD can manage that with obvious IOP advantage too.

http://www.barefeats.com/hard63.html
 
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Update:

Bought a 2-port eSATA card and 8GB of RAM from OWC recently. Can't wait to be home and install it. Still more than a week to go on the field. :eek:

QFX 4500 is next...

Summary of upgrade/update parts and pheripherals;
2 x 64GB Generic SSD with SF1222 Controller on Software Raid 0 - Boot Drive
16 GB total of PC2 4200 Non ECC DDR2 RAM (Once the 8GB OWC memory is installed)
DAT Optic eSATA PCIe card (I still cannot find the reason I opted for this one over the Sonnet)
Buffalo DriveStation 1TB quad interface - USB/eSATA/FW400/FW800 (TM and Data Disk)
2 - 21.5" 1920x1080 Acer Monitor
Apple Aluminum Wireless keyboard
Apple Magic Mouse
Apple Airport and Bluetooth Card
Apple iSight
 
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Just wanted to share that due to the focus being on getting the most useability and power out of the Mac platform for me right now, I'm getting rid of and selling my 2.3Ghz G5, same model as Nameci's, and is in overall excellent condition.


If this is spam, remove, but given this thread is about these excellent dual core models, I'd thought I'd let anyone potentially looking for one know I've got one for sale. Thread in the Marketplace area, or PM for details.



--- Sorry, just a side note please? :eek: :cool:
 
yeah mate, have had it for over 2 months.. Drak!!! just gotta ask someone nicely if they will let me pull their PC apart and letting me shove this monster in there for a couple o minutes....

what one did you get? authentic apple one or a PC one that you gotta flash? the one i got was a PC one, but had the extended PCB. so its exactly the same as the mac one, just gotta flash it.

the FX4500 i had in my Quad was a PC card, but not the extended length PCB, it was just the same size as the 7800GTX512...
 
I will get my hands on it end of next week. I am almost done with this project. Unless i will get two 30" cinema display, that would be awesome, but the used prices are still way beyond reason.

Probably this project will end with two 23" Cinema display i guess, if time and money permits and i am crazy enough, Lol... it is just fun, building it slowly...
 
Update:

USPS and UPS tracking states that the QFX 4500, 8GB of RAM from OWC as well as the eSATA card has been delivered.

Can't wait to be in Atlanta. My flight is early in the morning tomorrow. I am so excited.

Will update for any improvements. Any suggestions about installing the gfx card? Will I need a driver for it?

Latest Update:

Installed the QFX 4500, installed the 8GB additional RAM, installed the PCIe eSATA Card.

Result:

Video is responsive. I got full 16GB of RAM. Got the eSata card to work, have installed the wrong driver initially, after the installation of the correct driver. It just works.

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Update, pulled out the twin 21.5" Acer monitor and replaced with a single Dell SX2210. This monitor is about the same size as the Acer as well as the resolution at 1920x1080. Bought it cheap from ebay almost new with wrapping plastic all over it. The stand is aluminum and the back is white plastic so it compliments the aluminum keyboard and magic mouse. It has built-in webcam and mic and 2 USB ports. The bezel is black and almost resembles an ACD.
 
Nameci,

Question for you.. Have you tried to go beyond 16GB on the Dual Core 2.3? I know the Quad can accept also 4GB chips x 8 for a total of 32GB.. I was just wondering if you have a chance to re-evaluate your usage if you should need to go beyond 16GB. Also, what web browser is the best for the G5? Given the latest news on www.lowendmac.com about Apple no longer providing security updates to PowerPC macs running Leopard and intel macs running leopard, was wondering if safari is still worth the time and effort to use since so many loopholes in security have taken hold?

Have you read about the DigiNotar certificate problem? This is why I took my G5 Quad off line until someone can verify for me that I can still use my beloved G5 Quad and not worry about someone breaching my computer's security.
 
Yes, a 32GB can be read in your "About this Mac" but only a max of 16GB will be addressed and used by the system. It is a hardware limit. And besides I don't need that much memory, with the current use that I have right now 16GB is way more than enough. I cannot use them all even with lots of apps running. I have maxed it out for bragging rights... lol.

For browser I am using Camino optimized for G5. It is lightweight and snappier compared to Safari which is a little bloated.

About the DigiNotar certificate, in my browser security it is set in such a way that it would ask me before that certificate is accepted. It is just a matter of how informed we are, I don't worry that much and be paranoid. I am not working in the Government. No password saved on keychains...
 
Ok, so this is what I did. I deleted the whole entire certificate and any components it was associated with. My question then is can I still use Safari and be safe where no one would be able to log into my account or even see me go on line to my bank account? I used safari a lot for banking transactions as well as ebay.

If this is the case and everything is fine once I deleted those digiNotar certificates, then I am going to hook up again my G5 as I love that more than my mac pro.

Also, would you recommend since Apple is not providing any more security updates to Leopard, putting safari on PRIVATE BROWSING?
 
Understood. Yeah, I went ahead and put back up my G5 and still using Safari 5.0.6 but this time with browsing set to PRIVATE.. that way no one will get my information.

Feels good to be back in the G5 lane!


Nameci said:
When you delete it, it is gone. Don't be much paranoid, just be aware.
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Marcush1286 said:
Understood. Yeah, I went ahead and put back up my G5 and still using Safari 5.0.6 but this time with browsing set to PRIVATE.. that way no one will get my information.
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Err Thats not what Private Browsing actually does. All it does is stop your browser from saving most data to your local disk. It wouldn't stop root certificate attacks or someone placing a machine between your computer and the server your connecting too. It also doesn't stop anything that wouldn't require access to your local machine (It also doesn't encrypt your web traffic or similar) - All Private does is stop your browser from saving your history and other cookies locally. It won't stop anything on the network from "watching" you.

Its not a cause to be paranoid, its just not something that needs to be done. Turning on Private Browsing doesn't make what you do online any more secure, or encrypted, it just stops your computer saving where you've been or adding cookies. Not really a "security" step.
 
Apple told me something different about this, not saying you are wrong, but you might be right.


chrismacguy said:
Err Thats not what Private Browsing actually does. All it does is stop your browser from saving most data to your local disk. It wouldn't stop root certificate attacks or someone placing a machine between your computer and the server your connecting too. It also doesn't stop anything that wouldn't require access to your local machine (It also doesn't encrypt your web traffic or similar) - All Private does is stop your browser from saving your history and other cookies locally. It won't stop anything on the network from "watching" you.

Its not a cause to be paranoid, its just not something that needs to be done. Turning on Private Browsing doesn't make what you do online any more secure, or encrypted, it just stops your computer saving where you've been or adding cookies. Not really a "security" step.
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Marcush1286 said:
Apple told me something different about this, not saying you are wrong, but you might be right.
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What exactly did Apple "say about this", because what Ive posted is 100% correct. Safaris help agrees with me also. Nothing your browser does can ensure that there isn't someone at your ISP or somewhere else in the line stepping in between you and your target website. It also can't possibly stop root cert attacks. Don't you think if it could that Apple would have recommended everyone only use Private Browsing while they issue a fix, or surely they would've added the option directly into the Safari Codebase for normal browsing.

Whoever you spoke to at Apple more than likely either misunderstood the question, or is outright incorrect. The only thing Private Browsing stops is someone who has physical access to your local machine getting your internet history and cookies. It sure as heck doesn't stop someone outside of your local network, or even someone on it with a packet sniffer, because Private Browsing doesn't suddenly encrypt all web traffic, it just stops your Mac storing your data locally.
 
Update.

Bought this...

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Sound really sweet!

Current setup as of latest;
Boot Drive : 2 x 60GB SSD S/W RAID0 (Generic)
Memory : 8 x 2GB (16GB Total)
Gfx Card : NVidia Quadro FX4500
Display : Dell SX2210 21.5" 1080p with Integrated Webcam and Mic and USB Ports
Wireless : Apple Airport Extreme + Bluetooth
Keyboard : Apple Aluminum Wireless Keyboard
Mouse : Apple magic Mouse
External and TM : Bufallo Drive Station 1TB on eSATA
Expansion Card : DAT Optic 2P eSATA card
Speakers : M-Audio AV40
Printer : HP Laserjet P1102w thru Wifi

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Nameci said:
Update.

Bought this...

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Sound really sweet!
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Nice score and smart choice going with studio monitors! Bose makes some excellent audio companions, as well - especially their Companion 3 Series II, Companion 5, and MicroMusicMonitors. M-Audio ALSO makes some killer gear - and those'll sound loads better than any "computer speakers" out there - sans the really high end ones that would be better to still get studio monitors or Bose speakers (I know, Bose, but their computer stuff is phenomenal to say the least) in place of.


STILL rocking the dual core G5, eh? I recently traded mine for a huge PS3 bundle - kind of regretted it, but was ultimately the forward thinking and best solution at the time, as now I'm mainly console gaming and using a Core 2 Duo Mini for all computing needs :eek: :)

Still, glad to see PPC supporters aren't extinct :D :cool:
 
A little out of my topic, yes and recently added a 12" 1.33GHz iBook to my collection.

PPC macs are still much alive. This is my work horse computer for casual graphic design, CAD (electronics and mechanical), documents... and almost everything if I am on my workshop. It is a powerbook 15" if I am travelling. I still cannot justify for an Intel Mac until now, they are still working and working great. Not yet past their prime I guess.
 
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