Well then... I stand corrected.
Maybe instead of iwork i'll take another look at neoOffice....
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Well then... I stand corrected.
Maybe instead of iwork i'll take another look at neoOffice....
Neo Office is always a modification of the last released version of Open Office. It would be much better if the Mac OSX stuff were in the Open Office source tree and treated as an equal to the X11 and Windows versions. It's much less work to maintain that way and also means the Open Office designed take into concideration Mac OS X.
Well then... I stand corrected.
Maybe instead of iwork i'll take another look at neoOffice....
I use a mixture of both - I take my school notes in Pages, but make my final documents in NeoOffice
I don't see why Apple doesn't devote some resources to this project. They've got plenty of money and OOo isn't really in competition with any of Apple's projects.
Pages is a desktop publishing/page layout app that's quite different than the OpenOffice suite.
Pages is a desktop publishing/page layout app that's quite different than the OpenOffice suite.
Possibly because Microsoft would immediately pull Office:Mac. Apple aren't directly funding this, but I do wonder whether Sun have been given some form of incentive to do this on Apple's behalf.
iono... I've always been really annoyed at Office programs on the Mac (OOo, NeoOffice, MS Office). Office runs so much faster on a PC... Excel files open up almost instantaneously, as opposed to taking up to 15 seconds or more on OSX.
word and excel files open just as fast for me on my Powerbook and iMac G5, its only slow on my Macbook, due to Rosetta i'm sure.
Reading the thread it looks like the NeoOffice people absolutely cannot stand the OOo/Sun people.
It's a shame, but I suspect Sun wouldn't want to work with the NeoOffice code anyway, as it's not really how a "real" Mac application should work.
It's going to be a Carbon app. Carbon is not a modern OS X API. You're reinventing the wheel Sun. A deprecated wheel.
Either go with Cocoa or stay with X11.
http://www.drunkenblog.com/drunkenblog-archives/000706.html
[size=+2]AND THAT WAS TWO YEARS AGO[/size]
Either go with Cocoa or stay with X11.
http://www.drunkenblog.com/drunkenblog-archives/000706.html
[size=+2]AND THAT WAS TWO YEARS AGO[/size]
and i thought th e move to intel might actually spur the death of carbon
let's face it. The switch to intel finally killed that awful OS 9 environment. How long overdue was that?
haha, cant say ive used it in a couple of years, i LOT of print/publishing firms still do though, have to drag their ass's into the 21st century
Give us MS Access support and you're onto a winner.
Currently, MS Access is the only reason I own a PC.
Currently, MS Access is the only reason I own a PC.
I'm running to my bathroom to vomit. As we speak. Not my food, my insides, as well as my soul.
MS Access? You want that? Oh god, ohgodohgodohgo-
Oh believe me, I really dont. But when clients of mine send me access databases of products and what not, its very hard not to use it.
Well, at least you agree with my sentiments on principal.
(laughs)
your clients use Access like Excel spreadsheets?
Not really. Pages is geared towards templates. A fancy text-edit if you will. Office programs seem to be Indesign for dummies.
You saw the blog, they are using carbon and it seemed they are not developing a universal version...
I think they should convince Steve to port it ti the iPhone... that could really kick Ms butt big-time... i mean if you have it in your phone then you get it for your computer and then... you stop using office
I think they should convince Steve to port it ti the iPhone... that could really kick Ms butt big-time... i mean if you have it in your phone then you get it for your computer and then... you stop using office
While Pages does have themes, templates, I found it much easier to do a dcoument in Pages than in Word or Publisher (talk about template-based) when it required page layout tools. Even when using it for the first time, I was able to adjust quickly to the program because of the consistency with apps like Keynote and iWeb. A longtime Apple user (26 years), I don't know why I was surprised when I was able to just work and get the document done. If I have to do simple page layout, I use Pages.
Of course Carbon is a modern OS X API, and if you're trying to create C++ programs, it's the easiest API to use. Apple may initially have intended it to be some sort of portability layer, but it continues to be updated, and Apple themselves write major parts of OS X and iApps in it, from the Finder to iTunes.
I'm not saying I wouldn't like it in Cocoa, but it's a stretch to call it "deprecated" or imply that it would be better to use X11 than Carbon.