Super-speed internet 1.2GB per second

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  1. riscy macrumors 6502a

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    Super-speed Internet satellite blasts off in Japan

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    (CNN) -- Japan launched a rocket Saturday carrying a satellite that will test new technology that promises to deliver "super high-speed Internet" service to homes and businesses around the world.
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    A rocket carrying a super-fast Internet satellite lifts off from its launch pad on the Japanese island of Tanagashima.

    The rocket carrying the WINDS satellite -- a joint project of the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) and Mitsubishi Heavy Industries -- lifted off its pad at 5:55 p.m. (0855 GMT).

    If the technology proves successful, subscribers with small dishes will connect to the internet at speeds many times faster than what is now available over residential cable or DSL services.

    The Associated Press said the satellite would offer speeds of up to 1.2 gigabytes per second.

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  2. j26 macrumors 65832

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    And satellite based - that could rapidly overtake cable networks and move us to downloaded movies very quickly.

    Blu-Ray may have a short-lived time in the sun.
     
  3. ::Lisa:: macrumors 6502a

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    Wow nice! Definitely sign me up too! I thought my 8MB net was good!! lol
    I guess once this hits the rest of the world they'll make it highly expensive since you don't have to be at home to get it.
     
  4. sushi Moderator emeritus

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    Gee, and I live in Japan where they are going to be testing it first.

    Yeah, my 44Mbps line for $25 per month is getting old.

    Bummer... ;) :p :D
     
  5. Knox Administrator

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    As usual the news agencies don't read/understand the actual figures...

    http://www.jaxa.jp/projects/sat/winds/index_e.html

    1) It's 1.2 Gigabits per second
    2) That's only possible with 5 meter antennas, so only for big companies
    3) Normal rates for consumers will be 155Mbit/s, which obviously is very fast, but not significantly above the existing 100Mbit connections some people have.

    Not that it's not a good thing, just not quite as good as they're making out.
     
  6. sushi Moderator emeritus

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    Actually, for Japan this is really good for the customer.

    Internet connection wise, there are two Japans. Broadband and Dial-up. Many places outside of the big cities have terrible Internet connection. Many are simply normal Dial-up -- that is flaky at times.

    This will definitely make a significant impact on those areas.

    Reminds me of the Midwest in the US. Outside of the major cities, Internet connectivity is very limited -- usually to Dial-up. This time of Internet infrastructure improvement will be great for many in remote areas around the world as the technology improves.
     
  7. sammich macrumors 601

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    I was just thinking (directed at anyone with signals knowledge), for this single satellite to provide always on internet coverage it will have to geosynchronous (stay above the same point on Earth 24/7). This is roughly 36000km from the surface (of Japan) of the Earth.

    My question being here is that, they can do this now? 1.2 Gbps (to possibly thousands of people EACH)? Can the signal be consistent and strong enough to send data over such large distances?

    But otherwise...BRING ON THE FAST INTERNET! Australia still counts as being in the Asia-Pacific :rolleyes:
     
  8. Knox Administrator

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    I know it's going to be way more than what 99.99% of people have at the moment., it's just that there's a slight difference between the 'advertised' 1.2 GB/s rate and the actual rate of 20MB/s :) (or rather, the rate that they're 'aiming for' is 20MB/s)
     
  9. Queso macrumors G4

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    When the weather is bad the Sky signal goes all blocky on my TV. Will this satellite suffer similar atmospheric related problems?
     
  10. redAPPLE macrumors 68030

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    a fast internet connection would do you no good, when a lot of people are accessing 1 server all at once (e.g. stevenote). you might as well have dialup ;).
     
  11. sushi Moderator emeritus

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    Good question.

    Cell phones here have the same issues during a hard rain.

    My guess, is that the satellite signal will be degraded somewhat during inclement weather conditions.
     
  12. eRondeau macrumors 6502a

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    I have investigated current satellite internet for my rural cottage, but there are a couple of major faults...

    1) There is an unavoidable delay of about a second as your user input gets beamed 22,000 miles into space, is beamed 22,000 miles back to the satellite company's office, is processed by the web site, is beamed back up and back down. Before you know it your pr0n .jpg has travelled 100,000 miles, and that takes time. Don't even try online gaming.

    2) Satellite companies all have very restrictive throughput agreements that slow you to a crawl after you've topped-out your daily quota of data. Those quotas vary, but do a 400MB 10.5.2 software updates on a few machines and you're probably over the limit.

    3) Installation is still very expensive because licensed satellite installers are still relatively rare.
     
  13. riscy thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Good find, Knox - I cannot imagine even imagine 1.2GB ps - but the fact that the satellite has gone up, might still herald a new era of speed, hopefully.
     
  14. QCassidy352 macrumors G3

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    ...and I hate you. :eek: ;)
     
  15. eRondeau macrumors 6502a

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    Well at least that makes for some easy math. On a good day I can connect via dial-up at 44Kbps, so, ummm, your speed is 1,000 times faster than mine. :(:(:(
     
  16. stevegmu macrumors regular

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    You guys don't have something like this?

    http://www.skywayusa.com/
     
  17. sushi Moderator emeritus

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    :p

    FWIW, in my apartment building, I can go with VDSL (about 100Mbps) for around $45 per month.

    But for right now, what I have is fast enough for what I need. :)

    I think that his issues were more with the lag due to the distance the signal must travel.

    The satellite concept looks promising to me since eventually, if I understand correctly, the user can have world wide access once the system is deployed. And as technology improves, the equipment will get smaller. Just look at the current satellite dishes for TV compared to what they were 20 years ago. Who knows, maybe someday land lines will be a thing of the past. Beam me up Scotty! :)
     
  18. Mammoth macrumors 6502a

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    @$!& I pay $45/month or so for 1.5Mbps. :mad:
     
  19. Abstract macrumors Penryn

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    Sushi's goal of making all of us feel jealous has succeeded. ;)
     
  20. eRondeau macrumors 6502a

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    Read their FAQ's -- my points are all in there. Only change is that SkyWay uses dial-up internet to upload/request data, and satellite to download. Which is probably worse in the long run, because your computer has to acknowledge every block of data it receives, so even 50K dial-up is a built-in bottleneck. Latency is advertised as a half-second because your data is "only" making a 50,000 mile trip. They enforce a "Reasonable Use Policy" that slows your speed to a trickle once you've hit your data cap. And, installation is still fairly costly -- and many common installation scenarios require extra-cost add-ons. I've looked at most of the satellite providers in Canada and the USA and they are all pretty much the same.
     
  21. SkyBell macrumors 604

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    Yeah, I'm not exactly sure what kind of internet we have.

    I've always thought this was satellite internet, but I'm not sure...

    http://boernewireless.com

    I'll take a picture of our "satellite" tomorrow. It looks more like an antenna then a satellite.
     
  22. stevegmu macrumors regular

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    They don't say any of that in the commercial they have been running recently.
     
  23. Abstract macrumors Penryn

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    Is it because commercials are only 30 seconds long, and so they only explain the benefits of their service?
     
  24. catfish743 macrumors 6502

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    Wow, that is intense. But just think, when it is common, 125 Gigabits per second will be the new technology. Oh how technology advances. :D
     

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