I wouldn’t expect a downgrade. So far the SE has always been at least as good as the same-form factor regular iPhone it copied. The first SE was a 5S with 6S internals, and was released only 6 month after the 6S.
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That would mean that Apple would have to take the SE 3 off the market in the EU (and Saudi Arabia) at the end of 2024, due to not having USB-C. I think it’s more likely they release a new SE before that.
My guess is those that have PWM issues are at least as small a fraction of the market as those who want an iPhone mini.
All iPhone SE models have had a March release date. The purpose is likely to encourage people to buy the more expensive phones that are released in the fall instead of waiting for the cheaper SE.
And the difference is that people that want an iPhone mini can use a bigger phone.
I tried multiple iPhone 13 mini when I bought one, and there were (to my eyes) two different panel types, one of which had better contrast (but also slightly worse color accuracy and more off-angle color shift). The lesser-contrast panel was straining to read text on, for me.
They don’t need to as long as the mini is still supported, like PWM-sensitive people can continue to use the LCD models as long as those are still supported. In either case, it means lost sales for Apple, but Apple doesn’t seem to care, is my point.
I hope it gets the U1 chip, dual frequency gps, and SOS satellite capability. I am concerned that it could be the guinea pig for Apple’s first modem.
6.1"? Seriously? Will we ever get a phone-sized phone again?
And my point is that once the LCD models are no longer supported, PWM sensitive people (like myself) wouldn't have any choices. But those that prefer a mini will still be able to use a larger phone.
Yeah it seems hard to believe that Apple would push OLED onto the SE. I would think it would be LCD.
Quite unlikely, regrettably.
Are we expecting Touch ID to be gone? It's the reason I used an SE2 and now an SE3 as my daily driver. Guess I'll be replacing the battery in the SE3 until it's no longer supported with security updates....
That’s a gradual difference. Blind people can use an iPhone, so PWM-sensitive people should technically be able to use an iPhone as well. It’s a matter of how much drawbacks you’re willing to live with. For me the drawbacks of having to use a larger phone are serious enough that I might switch to Android if they offer smaller/folding phones when Apple stops offering those.
I was hoping the SE would be the Mini replacement. RIP small phones...
a) Not true. This has been discussed and debunked before, including in the most recent SE thread here prior to this one. The regulation applies only to new products released on or after the date it takes effect.
b) The current SE might very well exit the market before the next one arrives anyway. That’s what happened between the first and second generations. Just as one possibility, we could see the iPhone 12 or iPhone 13 Mini get another year on the market at a new $499 price point, temporarily taking over the entry level spot from the SE.
With it being expected to be based on the iPhone 14, it’s unfortunately likely to lose TouchID and the Home button.
iPhone SE 2016 used the A9 chip and 12 MP main camera from iPhone 6s but everything else is from iPhone 5s
iPhone SE 2020 used the A13 Bionic chip from iPhone 11 series but everything else is from iPhone 8
iPhone SE 2022 used the A15 Bionic chip from iPhone 13 series and has a higher capacity battery but everything else is from iPhone 8
I know that the iPhone SE has been released in the spring in the past — my point is that they might offer them at the same time as the main models, just like they do with the Watch.
I don’t understand why they had to make the iPhone taller when they added edge-to-edge displays and got rid of the home button. Just getting rid of the home button to allow the edge-to-edge display makes the screen plenty tall already.
Relative to the iPhone 8, the iPhone 14 is both taller and wider, but it got proportionally taller than it did wider.
Relative to the iPhone 8, the iPhone 14 is both taller and wider, but it got proportionally taller than it did wider.
Now that only the Pro models are getting the latest SoC/CPU, that might be more likely.
Sending you lots of love bud, you’re clearly in need of it.
Right. My point is that the SEs were always better than the previous regular iPhone that they borrowed the form factor from. I.e. the SE 1 was better than the 5S, and the SE 2 & 3 were better than the iPhone 8. Therefore I would expect the SE 4 to be better than whatever iPhone it will be borrowing its form factor from.