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There's a movie where Jack Lemmon changes the channels on neighbor Walter Matthau's TV set.

With Siri, a loud drunk could wreak havoc in a silent street by hollering the right words loud enough.
 
32" and 37"
what a joke if that becomes reality.
I really doubt Apple will enter on the television set market.
Just make the $99 ATV box and a new content distribution model the revolutionary product. The TV set is not the priority here.
 
First of all, if other people had such great ideas to improve the TV experience, where are they?

But even if other people do have great ideas, that doesn't matter. Regardless of mistakes made by the patent office, you can't patent an idea. You can only patent the implementation of the idea.

Especially when you combine current TVs with a sound system, Blu-ray, computer and other devices, the UIs are ridiculously horrible and the remote controls are even worse. I don't happen to believe that Apple will be able to solve it all, but Siri might be a nice start, if it works. That doesn't mean I think an Apple TV will be a success (see my other post).

The problem isn't the idea; ideas are a dime a dozen. The problem is in execution: not only doing the right thing, but getting key actors on board supporting your move. That said, theres plenty of room for just making a hassle-free TV - but it wouldn't be revolutionary.
 
This sounds like new cinema displays that are also TV's.
Anybody that wants a new cinema display will be getting a full fledged television built-in.

This would make sense.

But TV sets and computer monitors are quite different, one being looked from a distance, the other from up close - which is why it has never worked so far.

If Apple can get this to work, this would be the reason for an Apple TV set.

Other than that, I don't see why I should buy an Apple TV instead of a high quality Panasonic plasma.

I don't need Siri on a TV set. It's gadgety to yell at our TV "Shut that ******* off!" if you don't like the program.
 
There's a movie where Jack Lemmon changes the channels on neighbor Walter Matthau's TV set.

I almost did something similar, last night, when walking past the Drive-Thru line at McDonald's. A man was placing his order and I had to stop myself from screaming "AND FRIES!" to see if they would add that to his order.
 
32"? what is this 1999?

No, it's more like 1992... but it won't matter because Apple's TV will be "magical" lol

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The rumors are converging on two different products, not one. I don't think it makes sense to any of us for Apple to manufacture its own TVs - it's just not a hardware market I see Apple interested in. However, a 32" and 37" iMac sound completely feasible as do 32" and 37" displays. I believe Apple's TV plans have nothing to do with actual television manufacturing and everything to do with a total revamp of the :apple:TV product into something much larger and more intelligent.

:apple:TV has been described as a "hobby" by Apple. For Apple to corner the home entertainment market, it will have to offer something unifying that we can all enjoy without requiring the purchase of a TV none of us wants.
 
the 32 and 37 are not for you BUT...a prediction!

Apple, if they are moving into the TV market seriously this time, is not going to go for high end TVs. There's no margins there.
They'll keep the regular box Apple TV as a separate box for those customers ( and really people who are going to buy a 50+ inch TV either already have it or are going to prefer something else anyway )


I'm still not sold on the whole idea of even bothering to have your own TVs... BUT if they did do it,

I was thinking the other day...What would their killer features be?

PREDICTION!

First the easy one... They'll have to start a subscription based Netflixish sort of thing... but it will have to include TV shows. reasonably priced etc etc... it will be in the cloud blah blah... all your iOS devices for one price ... ok ok...

But then I realized.... that ipad3 rumor. The screen resolution.
I think their other killer feature will be that these TVs will be 2K resolution!
And then the iTunes store/Network will have some of the shows be 2K.

This will be gimmicky, because most people won't be able to tell the difference anyway, but they'll have ABC and Disney on board, and Disney will come out with a special Toy Story 3 or something rendered in 2K and everyone will go crazy and buy them.


Thus endeth the prediction! :)
 
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Yeah, a 5" increment seems odd. I'd make the gap 10"-12" between each model, and do something like 30-32", 42-44", 54-56".

That covers a decent range of viewing distance, "bedroom" sets and large[r] family room areas.
 
So Sony is getting out of the TV mfg'ing business because it isn't profitable but Apple will jump into it with a 32" and 37" model? This doesn't even pass the laugh test.

As others have noted, expect to see larger iMacs that can double as TVs and expect to see the AppleTV iOS device embedded within the unit.

Also expect to continue to see the AppleTV being sold but with a radically revised remote control (probably Siri-based). This will plug into every HDMI big-screen TV already in homes.

Presto: Apple now controls everyone's TV experience and can really get moving on content.

But the weak link here is, indeed, content. If the content providers ("TV networks") really wanted their programs everywhere, they'd have free streaming solutions with embedded advertising (like Hulu, for example). The fact is that they do not want their content everywhere because in order to do so, they have to permit all the other content providers to have access to their networks (remember that the networks are also ISPs for the most part). My guess is that Apple will become an ISP in short order -and- will begin producing content (or paying others to do so).

Can you say "creative destruction"? I know you can.
 
From a recent MacRumors item about a 7" iPad:

"...Steve Jobs had been adamant that a 10-inch screen is the minimum necessary for a tablet, and in a conference call said that he didn't believe a 7-inch tablet was a good user experience: "We're not not making a 7-inch tablet because we don't want to hit a lower price point. We just believe it's too small to hit the user experience people want. When we make decisions, it's not about cost, it's about value when you factor in the software. We're all about the best products at aggressive prices."" (Bold by me)

Going by that, did he think a 32" TV is a good user experience, what with 60+" screens out now? How can they justify coming out with a 32" TV? And if it does come out, it'll cost $$ at first.
 
Perhaps I've missed something but I don't see why everyone thinks that Apple is going to release a TV. Jobs' quote said that he "finally cracked it", as in he found the perfect interface for a TV. But what's to say they plan to release a TV and not an updated Apple TV?
 
Those sizes are DOA. If they wanted an entry level size, start at 42 - 47 inches and go up.

I don't think even an Apple fanboy will drop the extra dollars for an Apple branded 32" TV, that currently goes for about $300.
 
32 and 37.This is not 2002.Apple seems to really be out of step with this one.Im currently looking for a 70 to replace my old 55.
 
32 and 37.This is not 2002.Apple seems to really be out of step with this one.Im currently looking for a 70 to replace my old 55.

Like some people said I think these might be the new ACD sizes. That would be freaking great.
As for Apple Television, I really don't care. Make its a amazing ATV box. That would be what most people want anyway.
 
A smaller Apple TV would make sense if it can double as a computer display.

It could have a hard drive and a processor built-in - no extra Apple TV required.

This is where I see the potential for Steve's super simple operation.

Not by replacing the remote with siri.

A remote is not difficult.

But the orientation in the vast landscape of available programming - I could imagine something being integrated into the Apple TV.
 
Now that i think about it,at least with these small tvs they can sell them out of Apple store without having to set up a whole new shipping division to bring huge sets to purchasers.
 
Just like apple

They start small & hold features back


In 2013 they release a 42" & 50" with extra features

Meanwhile in 2012 after the success of 32" & 37" from apple , that same year google will release a 55" tv with all the missing features but will run like ****
 
It will probably be a new iMac line up, which is in line with previous rumors (3-4 month old post on macrumors) about an entirely new and refreshing lineup for the macs. Its a traditional mac when you want it, or an i OS enabled (samsung A5 isnt that expensive) when you want an instant on, touch screen or siri enabled tv. That way it could still maintain high profit margin while introducing the idea of an apple tv experience. Or they could just be apple cinema displays that can work standalone as iOS/apple tv sets and external monitors. I believe rumor to be true due to many other rumors which turned out to be facts (apple working on high dpi displays, apple running a test mac air on A5, integrating iOS with OSX) that indicate the overall trend in the line. These displays are small compared to 55" Samsungs but theyre not meant to compete with them directly... Yet. These are high dpi displays that would be used in closer proximity than 20 feet away.
 
It will be a monitor and Apple will stream content from their cloud service. They have bought rights to a variety of programming and will sell it a la carte. The tv will only work if it is connected to a Mac.
 
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