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According to the rumors, it is both.
The actual device itself will mainly just be a screen with small speakers, but there will be tons of different mounts, including one to mount it as a flat screen on the wall and another with extra speakers for a table.
The one with extra speakers is obviously what makes it a full HomePod.
I hope these rumors are true - as this modular concept doesn't sound very "Apple" to me
 
The homes that are wired up like that are likely mostly by single people in major urban areas, which of course Apple likes to target.

Everywhere else it just seems like it's mostly the dad holding the rest of the house hostage with the lights, tv, etc. These things don't work very well for groups. Maybe that's something this product is trying to solve.

Haha, that is accurate! My brother's place was like that (Dad holding the place hostage), tons of smart home everything, but that changed when my sister-in-law got locked out of their house, while he was in Iraq, because of malfunctioning smart locks.

Not just that, but it’s also good for frequent guests of the house who have no idea how to control anything, and certainly don’t have their smart phone connected to the smart home of someone else.
If I default, this thing shows a super easy interface for turning off lights and changing temperatures, it has a purpose.
Maybe not for everyone, but who cares? If you don’t need it, don’t buy it. I probably won’t unless it’s “HomePod Mini” priced.

When my parents were visiting said brother and his wife last year, my dad tried to turn on the guest room light via Siri (the room only had smart bulbs) and the HomePod promptly turned on all the lights in the house, including the primary bedroom, waking my brother and sister-in-law up.

It's all a little too "connected" for me.
 
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Not just that, but it’s also good for frequent guests of the house who have no idea how to control anything, and certainly don’t have their smart phone connected to the smart home of someone else.

If I default, this thing shows a super easy interface for turning off lights and changing temperatures, it has a purpose.

Hmm…. In most houses, guests simply go to a light switch and turn it off; or they go to the thermostat and press a button, rotate a dial, or slide a lever.

How often do people have guests in their house when they are not there, any way?

For sure, if one's house is already in control of the tech bots and overlords, and guests are there unsupervised, it could help… 😀

Presupposing, that is, that they are, at least, a bit tech savvy!

A cheat sheet or manual left by the owners or a quick phone call to the home owners would suffice otherwise. (“It's 95 in here and the AC hasn't come on. What do I do?”)

The market is niche, for sure.
 
The only thing previously that held me back from buying a HomePod mini for my nightstand was being able to see the time to replace an alarm clock. Now that we have standby mode that's actually a much more elegant solution so now both my Apple Watch and Phone operate as my alarm clock. I'm not sure what problem the HomePod with screen solves anymore, but I'm still waiting to see what the new HomePod mini offers before buying.

I don't need a HomePod command centre with more versions of the same apps that are on my phone and iPad. That's actually less convenient as the HomePod is stationary whereas I can carry around my phone to control things from anywhere.
 
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Not just that, but it’s also good for frequent guests of the house who have no idea how to control anything, and certainly don’t have their smart phone connected to the smart home of someone else.
If I default, this thing shows a super easy interface for turning off lights and changing temperatures, it has a purpose.
Maybe not for everyone, but who cares? If you don’t need it, don’t buy it. I probably won’t unless it’s “HomePod Mini” priced.
I am asking guests to leave their "smart" phones off and in the coat closet. If they can't for whatever reason then don't come. Apple should concentrate on making airplay work (fix what 18.2 broke). Homekit is a joke, the iPhone "Home" application is a defect riddled piece of software that provides an incredible adrenaline rush at every software upgrade - just to see what will break. Control door locks? Homekit fails a significant portion of time with Hue Lights, which have been around forever.
 
If they want this to be successful, they will give it the dynamic island :cool:
Too much innovation (my ass) for the first iteration of a groundbreaking-lifechanging new device like this. The Pro version of the second iteration of the device, with different colors too, will have a (mostly) operative Siri (with the second of third update of the OS, you now, next spring) and Dynamic Island.
 
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I am asking guests to leave their "smart" phones off and in the coat closet. If they can't for whatever reason then don't come. Apple should concentrate on making airplay work (fix what 18.2 broke). Homekit is a joke, the iPhone "Home" application is a defect riddled piece of software that provides an incredible adrenaline rush at every software upgrade - just to see what will break. Control door locks? Homekit fails a significant portion of time with Hue Lights, which have been around forever.
Apple runs to get into every potential market and then, after a (short) while, they quickly lose all interest in it and abandon the groundbreaking-lifechanging product which never got to work properly.
 
Most people have very few smart home devices, let alone situations such as yours. I've seen numbers that only 25-35% of US households have any brand of smart home gadgets, of any sort. It'll do alright, but it's not going to be overly successful. Just like Amazon Show and Google Nest Hub are around, but not terribly common or popular. The most common device I've seen is the Amazon Echo pucks, and the nest speakers after that.

No one in our household or extended really uses FaceTime, so this doesn't make much sense for us...and you know Apple isn't going to support any other two-way video chat on these.. 🤷🏻‍♂️
This. I'm guessing this will only work with devices that are Homekit or Matter compatible, which at the moment rules out the majority of Nest and Ring devices, which must account for a decent chunk of installed smart home equipment.

If all smart devices could work with this, then I can perhaps see the utility as a sort of "master panel" to see the status of various items (thermostat temperature, doors locked, doorbell or security camera feeds, lights on etc), but until then I think this will sell very poorly - especially at the price Apple is likely to ask.
 
It would be too locked into what they want to display you. In the days of Home Assistant and others the last thing I want is to be locked into apple forcing me to look at their 4 widgets in the order they think is right.
 
The product nobody asked for. Meanwhile the products people are begging for Apple wont give us. Don't have any interest in this or the HomePod.
 
Instead of this, I think there would be much more interest in a HomePod soundbar with built in Apple TV and camera for FaceTime, and that could pair with HomePod Minis for full surround sound / Atmos. Ideally 2, one in a larger form factor like the Sonos Arc and a smaller one to compete with the Sonos Beam.

I'm heavily invested in the Sonos ecosystem because (until the infamous software update) all my speakers including TV audio work really well together. I wouldn't buy a HomePod with screen like the one shown in the picture for a number of reasons, including that it wouldn't work with the rest of my audio set up. I won't change to HomePods for my audio set up, in part, because they don't do a soundbar.

Give me a good quality soundbar with Apple TV built in means one device instead of two. A camera would mean I start using my TV for FaceTime with family (I know there are workarounds but do many people use them). Ability to connect HomePod minis as surrounds would mean I get surround sound to rival my Sonos Arc and Sonos Ones combo. All that would be missing is the HomePod sub and then I'd feel comfortable replacing my Sonos set up.
I never understood why Apple never pushed the home theater aspect with HomePods. You have an opportunity, almost entirely software based, to entice people to buy 2-4 HomePods minimum for a home and they don't do it. To make matters worse, they have a movie studio and Spatial Audio. Why wouldn't they have done this years ago, I would really love to understand their reasoning.
 
I never understood why Apple never pushed the home theater aspect with HomePods. You have an opportunity, almost entirely software based, to entice people to buy 2-4 HomePods minimum for a home and they don't do it. To make matters worse, they have a movie studio and Spatial Audio. Why wouldn't they have done this years ago, I would really love to understand their reasoning.
They need to make a soundbar with AppleTV and a FaceTime camera built in that also has all the features of HomePod whether the TV is on or off. And allow additional HomePod and HomePad Minis to be added to create surround sound. This would be a HUGE success.
 
They need to make a soundbar with AppleTV and a FaceTime camera built in that also has all the features of HomePod whether the TV is on or off. And allow additional HomePod and HomePad Minis to be added to create surround sound. This would be a HUGE success.

Just do a sound bar with built-in Apple TV. That's all.

No need for a camera, configuration or additional home pods.
 
I only know two people with a homepod...
Really? I cannot be alone, as we have an OG Pod and a new one at home and a Mini at a lake cabin. The new one is in the kitchen and is the quick default for most music, playing local NPR station, timers for cooking, HomeKit commands, and occasional info requests. The OG unit has been moved to the dining room for music there when entertaining. [Personally, I find only modest truth in the Siri complaints and instead suggest operator error underlies most dissatisfaction. Indeed, the language skills on this forum support that notion.] Both units also sound good enough that I'm seldom inspired to power up the nearby stereo system for music unless I serious enough to spin some vinyl. Meanwhile, the Mini also surprises me with its sound in the cabin, and it also serves well as the hub there. In summary, my experience with HomePods has been excellent.
 
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There are plenty of reasons one might want to do this, tons of them relating to accessibility.
I use a smart Airfryer/convection oven because it is literally impossible for me to use the built-in touchscreen controls, I can’t see them.
So yes, I literally put the food in the air fryer, use my smart phone to get all of the settings the way I want them to be, and then start it.
BUT we are talking about a MICROWAVE here. There’s no accessibility issues, the microwave control is above the button to open the microwave. So, if one can OPEN the microwave they too, can access the controls to OPERATE the microwave. Moreover, the controls are on FRONT of the microwave, NOT the top.

And you are stating there are “plenty of reasons”. May you state more than just one?
 
Time would be better spent making an AppleTV Atmos 3.2 soundbar (LCR channels and 2 up firing speakers for Atmos) with a camera built into it. Set it below the TV, use a couple of HomePods for optional surround channels and develop an wireless subwoofer.
 
When Tim said years ago that they had no shortage of ideas, who knew that those were BAD ideas? Vision Pro, this stupid thing...we sure could use some of Steve's vision right now.
 
We have a HomePod v1 in our kitchen and we use it a LOT. Mostly for music, but we often start timers for cooking, and occasionally ask about the weather.

Adding a screen doesn't solve anything for us. It might make it better at answering questions, and it could display weather or timer information. I could imagine using it to view recipes, though the screen seems small for that.

My concern about the screen is that it potentially limits the audio dynamics in front. Our Homepod sits in a passthrough so the 360 degree speaker design is important to us.

Not seeing a compelling use for it. But I've been wrong before.
 
They need to make a soundbar with AppleTV and a FaceTime camera built in that also has all the features of HomePod whether the TV is on or off. And allow additional HomePod and HomePad Minis to be added to create surround sound. This would be a HUGE success.
I do think a TV soundbar form factor with true stereo, maybe the voice assistant, that gets along with mobile devices for music streaming as well would be nice. I don’t think a built-in ATV would necessarily be a draw for everyone, especially if it increases the price. If it had a built-in camera, that would disqualify it from consideration for me. I can Facetime just fine with iPhone or iPad as it is, whenever and wherever I want.
 
All about the price - I love the homepods (which I don’t own because of the price).
 
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