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Supply Chain Indicators Point to Poor February for Apple
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your claim clearly shows you've never touched an android device. please dont try to spread your ignorance as factual statements.
on the contrary Android offers many backup/restore options to both novice and advanced users.
also this backup/restore can be done without using a computer making Android phone independent. i'm not going to argue what OS is better. use whatever works for you. but Android is more modular with many many options.
why does it matter if samsung are outselling Apple, its not a competition !...why does it affect you, should you be bothered ?..I couldnt give a toss if apple sold 10% of what samsung does...all i care about is if I get what i want..and I have..for 20 plus years !
I think Google's closer to the "next big thing" than Apple with this one.
Now that Apple's created a product lineup of similar devices with varying screen sizes, the next logical step is to make things more ergonomic.
- iPhone: Pull it out of your pocket & look down at it.
- iWatch: Look down at it.
- Google Glasses: Look.
Google's problem is their an ad company, they're embarrassingly awful at designing hardware & software. Their attempt at glasses is so hideous it's almost offensive.
If Apple did this right it would be as big as the iPod & iPhone.
It doesn't affect me and I'm not bothered. Just adding my two cents to a thread on an internet forum like you are.
your claim clearly shows you've never touched an android device. please dont try to spread your ignorance as factual statements.
on the contrary Android offers many backup/restore options to both novice and advanced users.
i'm not going to argue what OS is better. use whatever works for you. but Android is more modular with many many options.
you don't need a computer or a separate service to restore an iphone either
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If Apple is diversifying its supply chain sources as it should then the logical effect is that old supplier's will get smaller orders and new unknown suppliers will be getting and filling orders.
So it will look like orders are dropping when accessible supply is the same or greater. Analysts .... PFFFFT .
So it will look like orders are dropping when accessible supply is the same or greater. Analysts .... PFFFFT .
No one is saying that, but in this domain, 2 years and 2 months is a LONG time.
+1 for this. If apple wouldn't abandon the semi to pro folks, they would keep most folks happy. But to stick with the iToys and lag on the other areas is a shame. HEY APPLE, there are allot of folks who NEED access to multiple drives in ONE system. Screw the cloud storage BS. Get back to your roots and listen to what apple fans want, instead of pushing crap what you think we need!
Which company still has faster growth AND a lower P/E. You don't seriously believe stock price means anything.
Do humans have the ability to read and walk at the same time? We can't drive and read at the same time. I see google glass as a tool for a limited activity. Not a game changing computing device. It looks cool - but i've got way to much information coming in as it is. In a car i think Siri is the safest choice.
I think Google's closer to the "next big thing" than Apple with this one.
Now that Apple's created a product lineup of similar devices with varying screen sizes, the next logical step is to make things more ergonomic.
- iPhone: Pull it out of your pocket & look down at it.
- iWatch: Look down at it.
- Google Glasses: Look.
Google's problem is their an ad company, they're embarrassingly awful at designing hardware & software. Their attempt at glasses is so hideous it's almost offensive.
If Apple did this right it would be as big as the iPod & iPhone.
Interesting statement when you realize that most people don't know what a "SmartWatch" is. Ask 12 people and you will get 12 different answers. From a device tethered to an iPhone for NFC sales, to a full iPhone on your arm. Screens very from 1" to 3"x5" wrapping around your wrist. The iWatch concept is a good example of the utopia effect. Everyone wants to live in a utopia as long as it fits their idea of what utopia is. Lots of people say they want a smart watch but because it is such an ambiguous term that it fits everyone's idea of the perfect device.
I'll wait until they become common before I decide if it is of interest to me.
One of the problems is that there is simply nothing new coming out between October when they announced the iPad mini and maybe April when hopefully they will announce the iPad 5. That's 6 long months.
I think Apple should have a more regular structure of media events tied around their 4 keys business legs.
I would start off by bringing back the MacWorld Keynote in early February. I would use that as a Mac only event where Apple could announce this years new Mac products and upgrades. That would certainly help businesses like mine who tend to buy new hardware at the beginning of the year as new departmental budgets are released.
Then I would have an iPhone event in April. It makes sense to have the latest processors shipped first in Apple's flagship product. It would also go some way to counter the competitor product launches which typically happen around March after the Barcelona mobile phone world exhibition.
Then WWDC in June when they could announce updates to iOS and OSX alongside this years star new product such as the AppleTV.
Then August for new iPad and iPad mini.
Finally October for the new iPods, iPhone mini, iWatch, etc.
I think Apple should have a more regular structure of media events tied around their 4 keys business legs.
I would start off by bringing back the MacWorld Keynote in early February. I would use that as a Mac only event where Apple could announce this years new Mac products and upgrades. That would certainly help businesses like mine who tend to buy new hardware at the beginning of the year as new departmental budgets are released.
Then I would have an iPhone event in April. It makes sense to have the latest processors shipped first in Apple's flagship product. It would also go some way to counter the competitor product launches which typically happen around March after the Barcelona mobile phone world exhibition.
Then WWDC in June when they could announce updates to iOS and OSX alongside this years star new product such as the AppleTV.
Then August for new iPad and iPad mini.
Finally October for the new iPods, iPhone mini, iWatch, etc.
North America does account for more than 1/4 of the World's GDP, so it is not that small of a part.
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Apple also reports channel starting and ending inventory....
It means a hell of a lot to the people that purchased at $705.
Yes, I seriously believe stock price is very important.
Such a fantastic comment! Like 2010 was not "recent" enough for a game-changing product that would completely turn the PC industry on its head. What did the PC industry do in 25 years? Wait.... I know.... they introduced more beige boxes or clamshells like the ones they had before.
Only Apple has to cannibalize an entire industry every three years rather than reaping the incredible profits from an industry they have established. What other company is held to this kind of standard?
Looking at innovative products (not technologies) in the past 13 years or so that have turned industries upside-down:
1999: MapQuest (acquired by AOL in 2000, this was basic model for subsequent Google Maps)
2003: iPod (absolutely winner on handheld music players and eventual online download store)
2004: Google Maps (Google acquisition that took online maps to the next level)
2006: Wii (use of accelerometers, IR and bluetooth for simple gaming)
2007: iPhone (completely changed the smartphone industry and expanded it)
2008: Netflix Video Streaming (turning established Cable industry on end)
2008: Tesla Roadster (basis for the more mainstream Model S)
2010: iPad (up-ended the entire PC industry)
2010: Kinect (controller-less gaming from Microsoft acquisition)
2012: Tesla Model S (mainstream luxury electric car)
Only Apple and Tesla appear in that list of innovators more than once with major breakthrough innovations and Tesla's first appearance just marks the introduction of the innovations that lead to the mainstream product. Google has a prototype of "Google Glass" out there, but the verdict is still out on what that will be and what it will become -- it may be an industry-changing product or a complete dud.
3D Printers are certainly interesting and could change the world, but it is hard to pick whose product is going to be the leader in that fledgling field.
So this whole "Apple is not innovating" thing is total crap. The better question than how someone defines "recent years" is probably "innovating, compared to whom?". What has Samsung done other than iterative product tweaks that has been a game changer rather than a gimmick? The answer is simple: nothing....ever.
Oh, yay. More stock manipulation!
Let's see if we can tank the stock price as low as we can, buy it up, and then ride the iWatch wave until we repeat the cycle again.
Let's see if we can tank the stock price as low as we can, buy it up, and then ride the iWatch wave until we repeat the cycle again.
Absolutely brilliant. I've been saying the same thing, though not as well put together as this.
Bravo!
I agree with so much of what you said except for the "stock valuation" portion. If Apple existing cash cows (iOS and OS X based devices) continued on and averaged 25% less profit over the next 10 years than last year (mind you analyst consensus predicts a 71% increase in profit in three to five years) then Apple will have enough cash on hand to buy back the entire company at the current market cap in a decade or less. If Apple meets analyst expectations in five years, they will have enough cash on hand to buy back the company in 5 years at the current market cap. I am talking about Apple spending nearly all of its cash reserves to buy back 100% of the outstanding shares and becoming a private cash-printing machine.
Of course such a buy back would not happen simply because the act of them buying it back would drive the stock price up. Every share owned by the company increases the value of every outstanding share. But the mere fact that the company's assets will exceed the current market cap within a decade is an indication that the company's market cap is under-valued. It shows that there is a panic on Wall Street that something disastrous is about to happen to Apple. As soon as that panic fades and everyone realizes that Apple is on a great growth trajectory then the stock will correct itself. If the stock were to go any lower than Apple would be foolish not to buy the stock back themselves at the discounted price.
Predictable...
Stock goes down. Those darn "analysts" manipulatin' muh stock and causing me to lose "muh gainz". It couldn't seriously be investors losing faith or valueing the stock at a lesser price point due to changing market conditions and details in Apple's financial reports!
How come you guys aren't cursing those darned Analysts when they pump up the stock? I mean if the aforementioned things about investor emotions and patterns are not applicable to a change in Apples stock... it must mean its going up only because Analysts are pumping it right? Oh no it is only Apple's success that makes it go up, but when it goes down its all aluminium foil hat time.
So many hats, could make so many iPhones... blah blah blah.
Stock goes down. Those darn "analysts" manipulatin' muh stock and causing me to lose "muh gainz". It couldn't seriously be investors losing faith or valueing the stock at a lesser price point due to changing market conditions and details in Apple's financial reports!
How come you guys aren't cursing those darned Analysts when they pump up the stock? I mean if the aforementioned things about investor emotions and patterns are not applicable to a change in Apples stock... it must mean its going up only because Analysts are pumping it right? Oh no it is only Apple's success that makes it go up, but when it goes down its all aluminium foil hat time.
So many hats, could make so many iPhones... blah blah blah.
Mostly Pathetic Apple fans
Frankly, I don't see the sky falling just because Apple doesn't have a new category busting product debut ever 12 and a half minutes.
Unlike Samsung and Google who churn out **** every five minutes hoping something will stick.
Instead of whining, why don't you folks go out and buy yourself a Samsung Galaxy S III and a Samsung LED Smart 3D TV and ****.
Frankly nothing by Samsung will ever grace my house, and anyone who has a memory that lasts longer that 12 and a half minutes would just stop reacting to the FUD, the world would be a better place. FUD exists because of people like you lot.
Frankly, I don't see the sky falling just because Apple doesn't have a new category busting product debut ever 12 and a half minutes.
Unlike Samsung and Google who churn out **** every five minutes hoping something will stick.
Instead of whining, why don't you folks go out and buy yourself a Samsung Galaxy S III and a Samsung LED Smart 3D TV and ****.
Frankly nothing by Samsung will ever grace my house, and anyone who has a memory that lasts longer that 12 and a half minutes would just stop reacting to the FUD, the world would be a better place. FUD exists because of people like you lot.