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You know what would make the mini an AWSOME machine?

  1. Audio input that supports a standard PC microphone
  2. OS X that support a standard PC webcam
  3. Standard DVI and include a MDP to HDMI w/audio adapter
  4. 1 TB HDD option and eSata
  5. Blue Ray (at least reading) optical drive (yeah yeah, I know)
  6. AND... optional TV and HTV tuner (e.g. via some sort of partnership with El Gato)

That would make it the ultimate media center...
 
I think the HDMI port is more to keep things simple when hooked up to a HDTV.

Therein lies the other side. HDMI has had a long history of shoddy communication, failed handshakes. For instance, I can't get my Mini (1st gen Intel) to work with my TV, which is the same age. There's no guarantee that any particular HDMI product will work with another.
 
You know what would make the mini an AWSOME machine?

  1. Audio input that supports a standard PC microphone
  2. OS X that support a standard PC webcam
  3. Standard DVI and include a MDP to HDMI w/audio adapter
  4. 1 TB HDD option and eSata
  5. Blue Ray (at least reading) optical drive (yeah yeah, I know)
  6. AND... optional TV and HTV tuner (e.g. via some sort of partnership with El Gato)

That would make it the ultimate media center...

My PC microphone (its audio input) and webcam work on OS X.

Buy the Mac Mini server I guess, but i'm pretty sure you can still put a 1tb drive in there, or at least use external.

internal blu-ray drives for the PC are really crappy right now.
 
You know what would make the mini an AWSOME machine?

  1. Audio input that supports a standard PC microphone
  2. OS X that support a standard PC webcam
  3. Standard DVI and include a MDP to HDMI w/audio adapter
  4. 1 TB HDD option and eSata
  5. Blue Ray (at least reading) optical drive (yeah yeah, I know)
  6. AND... optional TV and HTV tuner (e.g. via some sort of partnership with El Gato)

That would make it the ultimate media center...
Uh, doesn't it do all of that except the esata and BD?

  • 3.5mm audio input, or USB, which standard do you mean? It has both. Webcams work, too.
  • DVI, check. Add-on cords are available, stereo or optical audio output.
  • 1TB option in the server version. (no esata)
  • BD is a bigger Apple issue, this would be nice.
  • Optional? Sure, already exists. Does it matter if it isn't on Apple's BYO page?
 
Will anyone ever make a home media computer with dimensions and aesthetics matching the other 100,000 audio/video components on the market? It would be nice to slide a Mini into a rack with my receiver and DVR versus hiding it away in a cabinet...

They already do if you buy a custom unit or build it yourself. Moneual and OrigenAE make perfect HTPC cases to match other components.

If the new mini has HDMI, I'll buy one, install WMC7 and spray it black myself.

It's the easier option.
 
looks like mac mini's aren't the only thing getting updated.. you can't configure any iMac's on the apple store right now.. ;)
 
Agreed.



Apple's CEO now says PCs are "trucks," so what more would you expect?

You are taking what Steve Jobs said out of context. He thinks that PCs will still have their uses and people will still want them. He also said that PCs will not be replaced anytime soon, but it will happen.
 
I still think there is a gap in the Apple computer lineup.

It used to be a HUGE hole, before the Mac Mini got updated last october, and I agree that the mac mini needs to keep up with the MacBook/13MBP specs.

I think the folks here who are going along those lines are probably about right.


But the Mac Pro is still a world away from Mac Mini, and there are still people who don't want a computer in a monitor like iMac.

If MacMini is the stationary equivalent to a MacBook, then there should be a stationary equivalent to the MacBook Pro, which is NOT the Mac Pro.

The Mac Pro is the server-grade machine on a workstation desk.

The iMac is fine for home office desks, and some workstation desks, maybe.

But there is still a target in the midst of all those products. A blade computer, essentially. Mac Mini Pro is not a bad name.

Something with an i-series processor, dual or quad core, single processor socket machine. Leave the dual socket, multiple core stuff to Mac Pro.
Something with desktop grade RAM. Maybe not an industry standard main board size, but at least an industry standard mini-tower replaceable power supply form factor, and industry-standardized fan sizes. (although high grade quiet fans, please, not loud turbines.)
Something with a decent base integraded video system, but with a few expansion slots (maybe 4, stacked 2x2), but keep it modest.) for putting in dedicated video processing, or other expansion.
Two Gigabit ethernet ports, and option for internal bluetooth and wifi.
Option for optical drive, or multiple hard drive, sans optical drive.
Main 3.5" hard drive fitment, but a tray option to fit a 2.5" SSD. or both, sans optical.
It should include an MDP->HDMI (1.3 with audio included). It should also have the combo analog with optical digital input and output ports, as well as FW800 (2 ports would be nice), plenty of rear, and possibly a front-side USB3 compatible ports (LightPeak as soon as possible, too)
Keep the fans silent, and to a minimum, with good convection flow.
Stand it vertically like a thin mini-tower, or horizontally like an audio component, and offer a fitting kit to rack-mount it.

*Option it for a home or office desktop, Apple 24, 30, or provide your own monitor, dual monitor via MDP -> Dual-view adapter, or video-card expansion.

*Option it slightly differently for a home theater component source, with more power than MacMini.

*Option it with BootCamp, or Steam, and video card upgrades and the things that gamers like, in a desktop that is more powerful and cooler running than a Laptop, but modest enough in size to pack up and take to a LAN party, or move with a college student from place to place.

*Option it for a headless blade server in a rack, like an XServe used to, with multiple hard drives, and no optical drives, or needless video hardware for that role. give it the option to even run from a PCI-E-connected SSD, and use the SATA channels for RAID data storage off of the OS source drive. (again, more power than MacMini Server edition)

Mac Mini would still be a sub-$1000 option. This would not be a replacement for a Mac Mini, nor an easy 1-cord plug-and-play iMac consumer desktop.

Mac Mini Pro would probably start at $1000, without monitor, and build upward toward MacPro's price point. The "Pro" designation would indicate that this is a machine for a power-user with specific tasks to configure the computer for, which the isn't quite as ideal for. iMac ties you to a specific monitor, and can run hot if pushed hard, and is not much internally expandable.

Maybe that isn't as directly attractive to the throngs of mall-shoppers in the AppleStores... but that would be a smaller, more space and cost efficient machine, under a Mac Pro, for people who want a bit more of a serious computer, but still want it to be an Apple that can run Mac OS AND any other OS, as well.

One can dream, but I somehow really doubt Apple will build that machine, considering how long they have ignored that segment, and left the Mac Pro to soldier on as the only pro-grade desktop, even if it is overkill for some.

If computers are trucks, sometimes you only need a small to mid-size pickup truck. A heavy truck or semi truck is way too much, but a side-by-side ATV with a tiny little bed might be fun to tool around on, and easy to use... but not quite hard-working enough. iMac is like a truck that only carries one specific size and shape of cargo, because the truck bed is very specifically shaped.

I'd really consider a mid-sized truck of a desktop computer, and then a quick little runabout iPhone or iPad motorcycle, for quick mobility.
 
New Mac Mini

My guess is that Apple circumvents the Intel/NVidia issue by using an AMD processor for the Mini. If you look at test results in GeekBench Apple has been testing them. It makes sense from a cost perspective too.
 
You are taking what Steve Jobs said out of context. He thinks that PCs will still have their uses and people will still want them. He also said that PCs will not be replaced anytime soon, but it will happen.

The funny thing is that he said it with a 'shrug of the shoulders' kinda way, and still he's the one accelerating that very same 'progression'.
 
Three things:

1) I'm hoping this is right as I'm supposed to be ordering a Mini next week after the WWDC keynote so this'd be a nice bonus. :D

2) Personally I doubt this'll be mentioned at the keynote and at best it'd be a stealth upgrade on the store. If it turns out that it's a simple spec bump I think that's fair enough actually and I'd have no problem with a Core 2 Duo rather than an i3 anyway, especially if it means having a decent GPU instead of the integrated Intel rubbish.

3) The one reason, and just about the only reason, I can think of (and boy is this tenuous) for it to be mentioned at WWDC is if Apple is really going to push it as the cheapest way to develop apps for iPhone OS. That might make a lot of sense, especially if they preview Apple TV as well (and it can take apps) because that'd open up, what, a 100,000,000 device market to independent developers? Presenting them with a £500 machine to do the dev work on with a decent spec bump and pushing the green credentials as well as the 'stick it anywhere in your existing setup' route might be something worth pursuing. As I said though, tenuous at best and very very unlikely.
 
I hope these rumours are true. I'd love to upgrade to a Mac Mini from my 2.26Ghz MBP. It just isn't fast enough for me.

The processor would need to be faster than 2.53Ghz. 2.8Ghz C2D would be nice. I doubt we'll see the i3 as this would require Apple to adopt the Intel graphics and I don't think an i5 could be cooled enough in a Mac Mini?
 
Perhaps someone has already pointed it out but the Apple Store still shows 24-hour shipping. Some inventory problem... Is the site lying?

Nope. Inventory problems are being reported in the channel, i.e. resellers, not from Apple themselves. Apple seem to have got pretty good at managing their supplies these days so as not to give the game away with week long ship dates on standard build kit just before an update. I guess they figure that it's worth maybe having to stick a few thousand units in as 'reconditioned', they still make a healthy profit on them after all and there's probably a bit of a rush on 'em when the line does change as people look to pick up a bargain.
 
My PC microphone (its audio input) and webcam work on OS X.

That's weird...my father's mini (bought in January 2010) doesn't... the audio input can't handle a simple minijack microphone because of the tech specs...

“The Mac mini’s input is a line-level input, whereas the mic line on most analog headsets needs a mic-level input (to power the mic). The mini isn’t giving the mic any power, so it’s not going to work. You need something to pull the level of that mic line up to what’s known as “line level.” A lot of people use the iMic, others use audio mixers that will provide power to the mic (and other inputs) while providing a line-level output for the mini to accept it."

...and pc webcams also aren't compatible unless they're UVC or you use extra apps to make it so... which kind do you have?
 
Mac mini

I hope they update the Mac Mini. I have been personally saving for one!!
For me all it needs is an i3 and a media card reader and I'm sold.
If not I'll take a price drop which I don't see happening anytime soon.
I think the Mac mini is a pretty good value for the money IMO.
I'm also waiting for a redesigned iPod touch so I can upgrade from my first gen :cool:
 
I have been accurate at predicting previous mini updates, and I agree with what has already been said... the processors will definitely be 2.4, 2.66 and 2.8 built-to-order.

The 2.8GHz will definitely be the one to go for, but is going to probably come at quite a high price I would think:apple:

I think we may start seeing options for 640GB/750GB hard drives, as well as solid-state hard drives and maximum of 8GB RAM. Since the MacBook update, the 320M is now 100% certain.

I am desperate for a new mini as I still have a G4 - which turns 5 this year.
 
I can only configure the server mini at the online store right now. The base and 2.53 model both say page not found. I also get this when I try and configure a Mac Pro 4 or 8 core model.

New models next week and Apple is actually pulling them down til the update??? doesn't seem likely
 
My guess is that new mini in it's default config will be inexpensive (and hence Apple will not use expensive components).

The goal of the mini is to transition Windows users.
Also, Apple has been trying widen its market by lowering it's prices.

I think alot of folks are wishing that Apple would come out with a more powerful machine ...quad processor, lots of disk, great video card, etc... just like a display-less windows machine.

I'm betting on lower prices - $499 OSX machine - mediocre components, but still good enough for stuff like iLife, iWork, iTunes, etc.


P.
 
Sweet, I'm in the market for an overpriced, under-powered computer!

The design, reliability, and size more then make up for the price. Yeah the hardware is a bit underwhelming for what you are paying for, but you really can't find another computer in this price range that is any better. The Mac Mini is actually the best mini-PC currently on the market.

Most Mini-PCs don't even have a C2D processor or DDR3 ram. You would be lucky if they even include more then windows XP or Linux.
 
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