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Because

1. A "car" is too generic
2. Cars were invented in Germany, not by Ford or Chevrolet.
3. There were personal computers before IBM made theirs.

DUh!
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This is all fake, you forgot to include the pens, or the non-existing multi-touch and reliable touchscreen technology.
Are you kidding me? Apple tried to patent a rectangle. You're welcome to discuss the validity of generic patents as soon as you admit Apple is guilty of such and move on.
 
Yeah, you can follow the design of every iphone and see that the following year's Galaxy S copies it. The most obvious in recently memory is the blatant copy of the iPhone 6 design in the following Galaxy S phone.

Samsung's design copies are so obvious I'm surprised anyone is dumb enough to give them any credit for designing anything.
So by your reasoning, when Apple blatantly ripped off the HTC 7 with the iPhone 6, you called Apple out on copying, right?
And when next years iPhone looks very, very similar to the S7 Edge or Note 7, you will call Apple a bunch of ripoff artists again, right?

Or do blatant copies only exist outside of 1 Infinite Loop?
 
in related news... 6 out of the 8 current justices still use flip phones. it's almost 2017. just saying...
 
Are you kidding me? Apple tried to patent a rectangle. You're welcome to discuss the validity of generic patents as soon as you admit Apple is guilty of such and move on.

Well, USPTO says you are wrong
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So by your reasoning, when Apple blatantly ripped off the HTC 7 with the iPhone 6, you called Apple out on copying, right?
And when next years iPhone looks very, very similar to the S7 Edge or Note 7, you will call Apple a bunch of ripoff artists again, right?

Or do blatant copies only exist outside of 1 Infinite Loop?

Wrong. That's only your opinion.
 
Well, USPTO says you are wrong
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Wrong. That's only your opinion.
And multiple courts, including now the SCOTUS, say Apple is wrong. I certainly hope you're on the payroll, given your fervent idolatry.
 
Samsung took SOME "Design Cues"?!?!? Hahahahahahaaaa!

SOME Design Cues?!?!?

http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/17/technology/apple-samsung/

For those too lazy to link the above. You tell ME exactly WHICH "Design Cues" Samsung DIDN'T Take:

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And it continues to this day:

Look at the images in this Review:

http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s7-vs-apple-iphone-7-719775/


isn't that the doctored image of the two phones by Apple's lawyers in Holland and which was later withdrawn once it was discovered Apple doctored the image?

From Cult of Mac:
"
Apple Files Doctored Evidence Against Samsung Again, This Time About Galaxy S"

"Jeez, Apple, this is starting to really look bad. Just a few days after it was revealed that Apple filed misleading evidence claiming that the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10,1 shared the iPad’s physical dimensions in a German court comes word that they’ve done it again in the Netherlands, this time with Samsung’s Galaxy ..."

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Oddly enough, when Samsung complained about Apple's doctoring images in the US, Judge Koh said there was no evidence of evidence tempering. LOL. Now, if the case gets remanded back to the same judge, there is pretty good chance that Jodge Koh is going to make it impossible for Samsung to make their case by blocking their evidences and witnesses as she had all been doing.
 
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How? If company X can invent some new tech and company Y can copy it, add a cherry on top the best result is that X earns less than it should.

The worse case result is company X goes out of business, and we never see gen 2, 3, 4 of the product. Just refined knock offs with added bells and whistles.
it's not really copying. do you think music is original?

same thing
 
We can thanks to Apple for these designs of cell phones...
Everybody Sony, Samsung, Blackbarry, LG, ASUS, Xaiomi, ...
All of them are here thanks to Apple...
And now I would rather use CAT S60 Rugged phone than some of them.
Everything evolve from iPhone 2007. Asians talk that's not true and talk about Prada design but he is obviously different and couldn't bring cell phone industry here. That was iPhone. And I was not Apple fan before I start to use iPhone but from beginning for me everything is clear... Apple start everything. He didn't build first Smartphone, on begining they look completely different... but because of him Smartphones become so pupular, so cool, so attractive as never before and because Apple Smarphones look as we know them today. All most wanted Androids todays evolve from iPhone.
 
No. The click wheel was 50% of what the iPod was. It was something unique that Apple made and only Apple used.

A touch screen isn't like the click wheel. It's something common and obvious. Plenty of devices before the iPhone had touch screens. Apple isn't arguing that the touch screen is what was copied.

Apple argued that having a grid of colorful icons on a black background is what was copied. I don't think that's specific enough to patent or trademark... plus it's kind of obvious. Grids of icons have existed since the dawn of the GUI. I wouldn't be too surprised if you can find an analog from before GUIs even existed - Arthur C Clark was able to describe the iPad in his book 2001 which he wrote in 1968.

A (relatively) large multi-touch glass screen, with a grid of icons that each represent an app, with one front-facing button that takes you back to the grid of icons is exactly what the iPhone was. Pinch to zoom, one button below the screen, a browser which supports the full web because Apple wouldn't settle for the mobile web... No one cared, then Apple did it and the industry copied.

Like mobile payments. Android had Google Wallet for years, then Apple launches Apple Pay and suddenly Google rebuild their mobile payment solution, rebrand it Android Pay and advertise the heck out of it. At the same time Samsung buy a company and launch Android Pay.

Or like fingerprint scanners - around for ages but nobody cared. Apple launches the iPhone 5S with a fingerprint scanner and Samsung rushes to add one to their next flagship. Google then announce the next version of Android will have native support for fingerprint scanners.
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BOOM!!

Steve Jobs would never- oh, ****.
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You're arguing points that have nothing to do with the case. This case is about calculating damages. Full device vs component. This case is not about whether Samsung violated Apple's patents. That has been resolved. I've said it plenty of times before, Apple does not want to win this case. It's bad for them and bad for the tech industry as a whole.

Fair enough, thanks for clarifying it.
 
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Sorry. Wasn't stolen. Apple PAID (in Stock) for the the Xerox tech they used, then (significantly!) improved upon it. Curiously enough, your own screenshots prominently displays one of those significant improvements: Overlapping Windows. The Alto had no such thing (later, they actually stole that from Apple).

From the article Did Steve Jobs steal everything from Xerox PARC?

at http://www.mac-history.net/


Yes, the Macintosh team got an important demo (PARC was compensated with a pre-IPO Apple stock deal). They took up the ideas of the Xerox PARC, but it also changed numerous operating modes and added countless new features. Accordingly, the Xerox Alto did not imply, for example, menus flapping down from the upper edge of the screen, but operated with some kind of a pop-up window instead. Moreover, the window did not open automatically by double-clicking on a document, but had to be opened manually. During months of painstaking work, Atkinson had written the QuickDraw routine for the Lisa and the Macintosh, which allowed for overlapping windows to be drawn on the computer screen for the first time.

In contrast to the first Mac, the Alto featured no completed desktop metaphor nor ingenious desktop icons such as the trash can, which made it easier to delete files, and not just for computer novices. The historical accomplishments of the Mac team also included the Macintosh Human Interface Guide, which, for instance, when it detected a document in a Macintosh application, determined that it was to be saved using the command “Apple-S.”

Although much influenced by the work at Xerox PARC, Apple engineers developed their Lisa computer’s similar graphical user interface from scratch. The commercial failure of the Lisa was a result of its high price and poor performance, not its features.
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http://www.mac-history.net/computer-history/2012-03-22/apple-and-xerox-parc

So, to quote you: "BOOM!"
 
Sorry. Wasn't stolen. Apple PAID (in Stock) for the the Xerox tech they used, then (significantly!) improved upon it. Curiously enough, your own screenshots prominently displays one of those significant improvements: Overlapping Windows. The Alto had no such thing (later, they actually stole that from Apple).

From the article Did Steve Jobs steal everything from Xerox PARC?

at http://www.mac-history.net/


Yes, the Macintosh team got an important demo (PARC was compensated with a pre-IPO Apple stock deal). They took up the ideas of the Xerox PARC, but it also changed numerous operating modes and added countless new features. Accordingly, the Xerox Alto did not imply, for example, menus flapping down from the upper edge of the screen, but operated with some kind of a pop-up window instead. Moreover, the window did not open automatically by double-clicking on a document, but had to be opened manually. During months of painstaking work, Atkinson had written the QuickDraw routine for the Lisa and the Macintosh, which allowed for overlapping windows to be drawn on the computer screen for the first time.

In contrast to the first Mac, the Alto featured no completed desktop metaphor nor ingenious desktop icons such as the trash can, which made it easier to delete files, and not just for computer novices. The historical accomplishments of the Mac team also included the Macintosh Human Interface Guide, which, for instance, when it detected a document in a Macintosh application, determined that it was to be saved using the command “Apple-S.”

Although much influenced by the work at Xerox PARC, Apple engineers developed their Lisa computer’s similar graphical user interface from scratch. The commercial failure of the Lisa was a result of its high price and poor performance, not its features.
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http://www.mac-history.net/computer-history/2012-03-22/apple-and-xerox-parc

So, to quote you: "BOOM!"
Nope my dear, Jobs proposed a deal: he would allow Xerox to buy a hundred thousand shares of his company for a million dollars—its highly anticipated I.P.O. was just a year away—if parc would “open its kimono.”

So Jobs SOLD shares in exchange of a visit, he then STOLE what he saw!

Boom back at ya!

EDIT: We can use all semantics we want, but the fact is, Xerox invented what Apple used and built upon....
 
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Sorry. Wasn't stolen. Apple PAID (in Stock) for the the Xerox tech they used,

That tale is apparently a typical internet mashup of events.

Many Silicon Valley companies were offered pre-IPO stock options. Xerox Development Corporation (XDC)... an angel investor... was one of them. However, even when sued, Apple never claimed that they got a license from Xerox PARC in return for it.

More importantly, Xerox certainly didn't think there was any such license. As noted in a 1989 NY Times article when Xerox later sued Apple for IP theft:

"Xerox's suit, which was filed in Federal District Court, charges Apple with copyright misrepresentation and seeks more than $150 million in royalties and damages.

"Xerox contends that the Lisa and Macintosh software stems from work originally done by Xerox scientists and that it was used by Apple without permission."


then (significantly!) improved upon it.

This is true. With some caveats. Certainly its initial lack of color and/or multitasking support allowed other GUI machines to grab much of the market.

Curiously enough, your own screenshots prominently displays one of those significant improvements: Overlapping Windows. The Alto had no such thing (later, they actually stole that from Apple).

No, sorry, that's another commonly repeated myth. Tracing its origin, I think it might've started with Arstechnica's 2005 GUI history article which said this:

"One critical advance from the Lisa team came from an Apple engineer who was not a former PARC employee, but had seen the demonstration of Smalltalk. He thought he had witnessed the Alto's ability to redraw portions of obscured windows when a topmost window was moved: this was called "regions". In fact, the Alto did not have this ability, but merely redrew the entire window when the user selected it. Despite the difficulty of this task, regions were implemented in the Lisa architecture and remain in GUIs to this day." -Ars

A lot of people have misread that paragraph, thinking it meant Xerox didn't have overlapping windows at all. On the contrary, it means that the Apple engineer saw how fast the overlapping Xerox windows were, and assumed it must be using some kind of optimization.

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As noted above, the system that Apple saw at Xerox in 1979, Smalltalk, had overlapping windows. Alan Kay even wrote a history where he notes that he came up with the idea of them for the 1972 version, years before Apple even existed:

"Development of the Smalltalk-72 System and Applications
...
Overlapping windows were the first project tackled ..."
- Kay


In fact, by 1981, years before the Lisa and Mac came out, overlapping windows were well known enough to be pointed out in major computer magazines.

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The reason why Xerox had set some systems to default to a non-overlapping desktop layout, was because user testing showed that most people arranged their windows to NOT overlap.

I'm glad you posted what you did though. Always an opportunity for more people to learn some actual GUI history, instead of the fanboy myths which started much later on.
 
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