Supreme Court Reverses Apple's $399 Million Award in Samsung Phone Design Lawsuit [Updated With Apple Statement]

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    The U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday ruled in favor of Samsung in its longstanding smartphone design lawsuit with Apple, reversing a $399 million damages judgment awarded to Apple by a lower court. The case will now return to the U.S. Court of Appeals for further proceedings.

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    Supreme Court judges unanimously decided they do not have enough info to say whether damages paid to Apple should be based on the total device, or rather individual components like the front bezel or the screen. It urged the U.S. Court of Appeals to reconsider the $399 million penalty Samsung paid in 2012.
    The lawsuit dates back to 2011, when Apple successfully sued Samsung for infringing upon the iPhone's patented design, including its rectangular front face with rounded edges and grid of colorful icons on a black screen. Apple's damages were awarded based on Samsung's entire profit from the sale of its infringing smartphones.

    Calvin Klein, Dieter Rams, Norman Foster, and over 100 other top designers backed Apple in August, arguing the iPhone maker is entitled to all profits Samsung has earned from infringing designs. They cited a 1949 study showing more than 99% of Americans could identify a bottle of Coca-Cola by shape alone.

    Update: Apple has provided a statement on the ruling to TechCrunch, stating that the company will continue to protect the work that's gone into the iPhone's design.
    Article Link: Supreme Court Reverses Apple's $399 Million Award in Samsung Phone Design Lawsuit [Updated With Apple Statement]
     
  2. krause734, Dec 6, 2016
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    All these companies copy each other and there should be some patent rules to reward innovation and competition.
     
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    The judges went the Apple way: they made the reward thinner.
     
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    I have never seen so much negative publicity for Apple in a year. Yea Tim Cook, I'm blaming this on you.

    I'm sure Tim can't wait for 2016 to be over. I can't wait for him to be gone.
     
  6. Jacquesvw, Dec 6, 2016
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    Good, now the court should also rule that Apple must design proper Macs again or face a fine of $399M for every Mac product they abandon.
     
  7. Red Oak macrumors regular

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    Pathetic how the US courts have given no protection to Apple

    Samsung will always be a follower. With the Google Pixel launch, they are truly screwed over the long term
     
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    Big win for those who enjoy stealing other's hard work.
     
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    Supreme Court = sorry everybody, our bad...

    you know I've been sitting here looking at this screen to complete this joke but I just can't, maybe its too early, maybe the coffee hasn't kicked in....i dunno. Well sorry you've been reading this and wasting your time...Ill try better next time.
     
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    They patented a touch screen rectangle though, I mean come on.
     
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    I like Samsung's strategy of destroying their entire business to get sympathy with the supreme court.

    In all seriousness though, why is this still ongoing? Our legal system is fundamentally broken. Everything from patents to putting rapists in jail for a month and potheads in jail for years.
     
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    Great news! Current patent system is horrible.
     
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    Good artists copy, great artists steal...

    Where have I heard that before...

    (The irony is too much)
     
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    The Supreme Court hates patents, and Congress is too dysfunctional to fix the law.
     
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    Greatest artist makes great artist work, kills him, showcases the job as own's.
     
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    Since Apple probably won't earn money from this lawsuit, it might now start focusing on making it's products properly again.
     
  18. ilikewhey, Dec 6, 2016
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    wow 8-0 decision? in overall avg there aren't many case in the history of supreme court has an all in favor of one party. 99 percent of the cases has a decision around 5-4 but damn 8-0?
     
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    Headline should make it more clear that this doesn't mean no fault on Samsung and no compensation for Apple.
     
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    Shortsighted. I have repeatedly said this is a win for Samsung but a much, much bigger win for Apple and the tech industry in general. In a previous thread, I posited that if Apple hadn't been party to this lawsuit, they would have filed an amicus brief in support of Samsung in this case; just like most of the tech world did. I still believe it.

    This ruling hurts patent trolls who were looking for outsized awards against big companies like Apple. It makes the prospect of suing for large paydays less likely and less attractive. I look at it as if Apple lost a battle, but Apple and the entire tech industry won a war.

    edit: seems MR updated the article with more relevant info. Full device vs. component damages is still open somewhat. SCOTUS determined the lower court did not interpret the relevant law correctly.
    "This case involves the infringement of designs for smartphones. The United States Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit identified the entire smartphone as the only permissible “article of manufacture” for the purpose of calculating §289 damages because consumers could not separately purchase components of the smartphones. The question before us is whether that reading is consistent with §289. We hold that it is not." - excerpt from court decision

    My point remains. Apple should want to lose this case. It's better for them in the long run.
     
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    Deep Thoughts by Jack Handy...

    If you're stealing ideas from Apple, is the result innovative?
     
  22. til1p, Dec 6, 2016
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    Forgive me if I'm missing the sarcasm. But, in case you are serious, 8-0 (9-0) decisions happen often enough.

    [edited to remove incorrect reference to "per curiam"]
     
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    I'm not trolling. Let's be able to differentiate criticizing from trolling.

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    Ignoring this ruling completely. America's court system is a complete joke.
     

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