Nope. Forced Windoze updates are BSODing users PC. Now you know that Windoze will always be Windoze. Updates NEVER caused any trouble on OS X in years of my usage.
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Surface Pro shows what Macbook could have been, what new Macs need?
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Nope. Forced Windoze updates are BSODing users PC. Now you know that Windoze will always be Windoze. Updates NEVER caused any trouble on OS X in years of my usage.
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150 new emoji characters arrive in the 1.19GB update to El Capitan ver 10.11.1 so either these emoji are huge or perhaps there's some bug fixes involved eg:
Microsoft Office for Mac issues in El Capitan
Issues with native Mail in El Capitan
Google Docs no longer working in Safari in El Capitan
El Capitan breaks UK keyboard - no more £ key
Issues with iBooks in El Capitan
Spotlight not indexing since El Capitan installation
El Capitan Battery Life issues
Split View not working in El Capitan
Slow Mac since El Capitan installation
Printing problems in El Capitan
Issues with iTunes in El Capitan
Etc
As you have never had any problems with OSX maybe you should donate your system(s) to Apple for research and help all the other users
Funny those never happened to my MBA. I never want to contaminate my MBA with M$ products; my 2011 MBA never slowed down at all since upgrading to 10.11. I never use split view since it's pointless. No issues with airprint/print formats whatsoever. I don't use Google products. Mail and Spotlight works perfectly for me.
Those are isolated features not universal like Windoze. I would never donate my MBA until some serious hardware issues happen.
Those are isolated features not universal like Windoze. I would never donate my MBA until some serious hardware issues happen.
Got to see a Surface Book in person at Best Buy for the first time today. Ironically it appeared to be bricked as it was stuck in the Surface loading screen. I hard powered it off, but it still wouldn't boot. Asked the employee about it and he said it had gotten stuck that way during the setup when they unboxed it and had been that way ever since.
So, there are most likely going to be launch bugs. I was impressed with the build quality and the keyboard was very nice. Felt like it had more key travel than my MBA. I was able to undock the screen, and in clipboard mode it is impressively light considering its size.
The hinge seemed solid, and the gap doesn't bother me. Overall weight was comparable to the 13" MBP on the display in the next aisle and way lighter than a 15". I remember now that that was my biggest hesitation with the 15" MBP was how much more weight I was signing up for vs my MBA.
I did get to play with the stylus on a surface pro 4, and it was very nice. I wish I could have played with it with a full program like photoshop, since all they have installed on the store demo is the free painting programs. There is cursor lag, but the ink flows directly from the pen nib with no parallax that I noticed, so it was easy to ignore the cursor. Accuracy was nice and the pressure sensitivity worked well. Palm rejection was good. There was a small amount of diagonal jitter when drawing slow, so that might make some pro artists hesitate depending on your drawing style. The pen nib felt nice on the screen, not too slick. The eraser was amazing. Felt and acted like a real eraser. I know a lot of artists don't like flipping the pen around to erase and would rather erase with a button, but I liked it a lot. (I still do a lot of paper drawing).
Bricked demo unit aside, I am still looking forward to getting my pre-order in a few weeks.
So, there are most likely going to be launch bugs. I was impressed with the build quality and the keyboard was very nice. Felt like it had more key travel than my MBA. I was able to undock the screen, and in clipboard mode it is impressively light considering its size.
The hinge seemed solid, and the gap doesn't bother me. Overall weight was comparable to the 13" MBP on the display in the next aisle and way lighter than a 15". I remember now that that was my biggest hesitation with the 15" MBP was how much more weight I was signing up for vs my MBA.
I did get to play with the stylus on a surface pro 4, and it was very nice. I wish I could have played with it with a full program like photoshop, since all they have installed on the store demo is the free painting programs. There is cursor lag, but the ink flows directly from the pen nib with no parallax that I noticed, so it was easy to ignore the cursor. Accuracy was nice and the pressure sensitivity worked well. Palm rejection was good. There was a small amount of diagonal jitter when drawing slow, so that might make some pro artists hesitate depending on your drawing style. The pen nib felt nice on the screen, not too slick. The eraser was amazing. Felt and acted like a real eraser. I know a lot of artists don't like flipping the pen around to erase and would rather erase with a button, but I liked it a lot. (I still do a lot of paper drawing).
Bricked demo unit aside, I am still looking forward to getting my pre-order in a few weeks.
Not much of a review more a pictorial comparison of spec's
http://www.gizmag.com/new-macbook-vs-surface-pro-4-comparison/40029/
And Apple never had issues with updates? I understand that you hate Microsoft and windows, since you always like to use windoze and M$ (really is this 2001 - most of us of have not needed to use such verbiage) but windows 10 is a solid OS. El Cap is a solid OS, Yosemite was problem filled so don't say that OS X is near perfect when its not.
I thought the same thing, I might have taken the plunge with the rMB if it came our sooner, i.e., I was debating the SP3 for many many months.
I have no regrets over the SP3, its an awesome machine, and the more I use it, the more I really enjoy it, but I probably would have thought the same thing with the MB. Now with that (SP3) in hand, its hard to justify any sort of small laptop and at premium price.
i have macbook and this weekend i tried surface pro 4 and surf book...sorry to say but for me my macbook pro 15" and my 12" macbook when i have a little work (besides wifi browsing) at over 50% cpu use, my macbook last for 6h and 23 min
on surface pro 4 for same task, also at 99% battery ramaining after 5 min the battery last for 4h and 40 min
So for battery stand point if you what something else than only wifi web browsing you have a down side
Now closing apps without keyboard and trackpad is very difficult and not so cool experience to touch to close the apps with your finger. Using 2 apps in the same time, has UI lag, i think around 24 fps, macbook does not in el capitan unless i have more than 3 tabs opened and working excel and importing
it is more difficult to use surface pro AS an laptop with that keyboard in a plane or on your lap, almost anywhere beside a desk or hard material.
The material does not come close still to the macbooks feel...macbooks feel like metal and sruface book and pro feels like hard plastic
if you go surface pro 4 with i5 or i7 (i tested the i5) when you do some medium work to hard work the vents start to be heard and blows the air and you feel it on your right hand while you using as a tablet
So still a hybrid CAN'T be perfect as a tablet or CAN't be perfect as a laptop from build quality to UI
Now i have to say that these devices are the best windows OEM devices of all time. But still being objective you feel the Apple ADN when they design their macs, and the attention to everything, i really mean everything....
i can't even use a port from surface while charging..it is masked by the charger....
on surface pro 4 for same task, also at 99% battery ramaining after 5 min the battery last for 4h and 40 min
So for battery stand point if you what something else than only wifi web browsing you have a down side
Now closing apps without keyboard and trackpad is very difficult and not so cool experience to touch to close the apps with your finger. Using 2 apps in the same time, has UI lag, i think around 24 fps, macbook does not in el capitan unless i have more than 3 tabs opened and working excel and importing
it is more difficult to use surface pro AS an laptop with that keyboard in a plane or on your lap, almost anywhere beside a desk or hard material.
The material does not come close still to the macbooks feel...macbooks feel like metal and sruface book and pro feels like hard plastic
if you go surface pro 4 with i5 or i7 (i tested the i5) when you do some medium work to hard work the vents start to be heard and blows the air and you feel it on your right hand while you using as a tablet
So still a hybrid CAN'T be perfect as a tablet or CAN't be perfect as a laptop from build quality to UI
Now i have to say that these devices are the best windows OEM devices of all time. But still being objective you feel the Apple ADN when they design their macs, and the attention to everything, i really mean everything....
i can't even use a port from surface while charging..it is masked by the charger....
He/She needs to spend a little time over in the 10.11 forum, then he/she will fully understand the meaning of issue...
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Many thanks for your personal feedback shame you could not find any positives
Still interesting on the I5 battery life vs rMB M lets see if it's a recurring result with others
As we have already pointed out Apple are not as careful or considerate as all may think re battery light indicator on power plug, magnetic attachment of power plug now gone or even spare USB charge point on power brick, so some you loose others you may gain
Subjective opinions aside, as from the perspective of a SP4 user they may find more things wrong with the rMB.
However, are you sure you could not reverse the power connect so port was not occluded and could not the pen closed the apps/window more efficiently than your finger ?
With KB detached the SP4 is easier to sit/stand on an airplane tray to view than a clamshell ie there are often scenarios that suit the SP4 and not the rMB aside from the obvious touch and voice recognition not available with Apple Macs
Still interesting on the I5 battery life vs rMB M lets see if it's a recurring result with others
As we have already pointed out Apple are not as careful or considerate as all may think re battery light indicator on power plug, magnetic attachment of power plug now gone or even spare USB charge point on power brick, so some you loose others you may gain
Subjective opinions aside, as from the perspective of a SP4 user they may find more things wrong with the rMB.
However, are you sure you could not reverse the power connect so port was not occluded and could not the pen closed the apps/window more efficiently than your finger ?
With KB detached the SP4 is easier to sit/stand on an airplane tray to view than a clamshell ie there are often scenarios that suit the SP4 and not the rMB aside from the obvious touch and voice recognition not available with Apple Macs
Sorry I don't need to go to that section since I don't experience any problems whatsoever.
Maybe you should then as it`s mostly negative, 10.11 was obviously broken from day one the .1 release clearly spells that out.
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You should remember cbautis2 is one of the lucky ones who never has a problem
I can sympathise with this as I never buy any extended warranty on electrical goods and have been lucky over the years to only been caught out on one product that by chance was a video card on a MBA LOL
However that does not bias my view on all the makes I do or do not purchase that others have a problem with or the fact that I have had to buy 4 replacement Apple chargers over the years for my sons Mac's as the cable fatigues and is not covered by Apple warranty.
You should remember cbautis2 is one of the lucky ones who never has a problem
I can sympathise with this as I never buy any extended warranty on electrical goods and have been lucky over the years to only been caught out on one product that by chance was a video card on a MBA LOL
However that does not bias my view on all the makes I do or do not purchase that others have a problem with or the fact that I have had to buy 4 replacement Apple chargers over the years for my sons Mac's as the cable fatigues and is not covered by Apple warranty.
Time will tell, equally I rather suspect 10.11 will exceed 10.10 for customer dissatisfaction it`s already started...
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Practice what you preach and start spending some time there first because you have clearly not been there. The experiences aren't mostly negative as there is an awful lot of repetition. There isn't 1 topic about 1 issue, no there are like 300 topics about that 1 issue mostly consisting of people thinking macrumors is Apples bugtracking software and people who are not interested in solving their issues at all. But there are also a lot of posts and topics with people liking the new system and people reporting that certain things are fixed, performance is better, pdf files finally work, etc.
You are just as worse as the other guy. Grow up and accept the fact that there are many people who do not have issues as well as accept that there are people who do have issues. It's the same with every other OS and with every upgrade/update. Quit the magic fairy dust crap. Apple is not "speciul".
Ironic - pretty much every OSX updates makes a complete mess of my devices...!
They are equally BAD..
The Book is more a MacBook Pro competitor. If you want an Air/MacBook competitor, you look towards the Surfaces.
Though you are right about the Book not being a good laptop AND a tablet. I've taken to calling it a laptop with a side job. It's primary function is more in line with a traditional laptop. You can flip the screen backwards and lay it down (mostly) flat to take advantage of its pen and touch functionality, but it's not something you'll want to carry around in one hand all day long. You'll want to put it on a table or on your lap for that. The tablet function is there if you want to spend an hour or so reading something on the couch, or pass it around a tablet at a meeting. It doesn't have enough battery life to do anything else.
I finally got to a Best Buy tonight that had the Surface Book on display. This was a big Best Buy with a large Surface display area, and lots of people in the store on a Friday evening, but nobody else was looking at them, which was a bit of a surprise to me. Anyhow, the Surface Book is even better looking in person than in pictures and video. Very high quality construction, slick hinge. Good feeling keyboard and trackpad, and the clipboard feels amazing on its own. Even as a SP3 owner the clipboard felt like something I could get comfortable with as a browsing device. The aspect ratio is just perfect and it just feels like a nice large sheet of paper. I can't wait for them to get this down to the sub 1lb range...
That said, while the base would release the clipboard just fine, the keyboard and trackpad were completely non-functional on the display unit. I restarted it, checked that it was all updated, nothing. So other than getting to get a general feel for them I couldn't do anything else. Still, I'm sure they will eventually get these glitches sorted out, and at that time the Surface Book is going to be something worth looking at.
That said, while the base would release the clipboard just fine, the keyboard and trackpad were completely non-functional on the display unit. I restarted it, checked that it was all updated, nothing. So other than getting to get a general feel for them I couldn't do anything else. Still, I'm sure they will eventually get these glitches sorted out, and at that time the Surface Book is going to be something worth looking at.
I agree, even in persons its a gorgeous machine. Very solid, quality of the build appears to be there. Nice keyboard and trackpad. The screen is gorgeous. I guess you'd expect that though from such an expensive computer.
That will be great, but I don't see that happening.
Oh, come on. Some day it will happen. I didn't say next year.
The clipboard felt more like a digital piece of paper than any other device I've ever held. That's why I want it to get so light!
I don't get it either. I own both, and they serve different purposes. I'll never buy an Apple tablet as they're useless to me. However, Apple laptops are some of the best in the industry, regardless of what OS you're running on it.
It's because Apple fans don't realize that the detachable screen only has 90 minutes of battery life. If they did, they'd realize this isn't the magic MacBook/iPad hybrid they are apparently dreaming of. They see this Microsoft hardware and say "Hey Apple! See? The Windows guys don't have to carry around both a notebook and a tablet anymore! What about us?"
All Surface threads should start with a Page 1 disclaimer to that effect, would avoid a lot of this conversation. The Surface isn't a tablet and notebook all-in-one; it's a notebook with a reversible screen for rendering that can detach for a very short while. You can barely watch a single movie on it, you could barely binge-watch Season 1 of Schoolhouse Rock on it.
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