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Well, I know one place I won’t be getting any surgeries done

Seriously, the photo there looks like something from The Onion 😂
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Surprised they allowed the use of fabrics (head strap, light seal) in an operating theatre. Ideally they should be impermeable, maybe silicone.

Fabrics are allowed if they can be properly sanitized beforehand. Scrubs are fabric and we wear them every day, though only hospital-provided sets when behind the red line.
 
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Meanwhile, the hospital I work for has decided it can't be used in surgery because it doesn't have a visual pass-through during failure mode, including power failure.

Well, they decided several months ago, but it's still in effect.
Power failure of what? You can attach a backup power source to the Vision Pro so it doesn't run out of power.
If there's a power failure at a hospital, they better have generators.
Medical equipment (monitors, etc.) could also fail unexpectedly and become a problem.
If the AVP fails, the doctor or an assistant can just take it off his head and continue by looking at a monitor.
So I don't see where's the issue, maybe it's just an excuse.

Be patient, sooner or later they will get it. Maybe their IT department is lame and afraid of new things or are Apple-phobics, or too lazy to learn new things.
 
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Surgeons at the University of California, San Diego have been testing the Apple Vision Pro for surgeries, and have performed more than 20 minimally invasive operations while wearing the headsets. Surgeon and director of the Center for Future Surgery at UCSD, Santiago Horgan, recently spoke with Time to provide some commentary on the Vision Pro's performance.

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According to Horgan, the Vision Pro could be "more transformative" than robotic devices that are used to assist in surgeries. While the Vision Pro is expensive for consumers, it is affordable for hospitals compared to most medical equipment, and it is widely available technology that many hospitals around the country will be able to take advantage of.

During laparoscopic surgeries, doctors send a camera through a small incision, and the camera's view is shown on a nearby screen. Doctors have to watch the screen while also operating on the patient, a process that the Vision Pro streamlines. Horgan says that surgeons need to look over at CT scans, monitor vitals, and more while doing these surgeries, and all of that information can be viewed through the Vision Pro instead.

This prevents surgeons from having to contort their bodies in odd positions, cutting down on discomfort while performing surgeries.

While Horgan has tried other headsets like Google Glass and Microsoft's HoloLens, the displays were not good enough. But the Vision Pro has high-resolution OLED displays, and the result has turned out to be "better than [UCSD surgeons] even expected."

In surgeries that involve the Vision Pro, doctors, assistants, and nurses all wear the headsets instead of looking at screens, and no patients have opted out of the Vision Pro surgeries.

UCSD is also testing the Vision Pro's ability to create 3D radiology imaging, and the team may also test it in other medical applications. More on how the Vision Pro and other similar devices are being tested for medical use is outlined in the full Time article.

Article Link: Surgeons at UCSD Find Apple Vision Pro Promising for Minimally Invasive Surgery

This is not great and too risky. There are reasons why AR is not yet ready to use in real life.
 
Updates aren't that frequent and you don't have to install them right away.
Reason of death: mid-surgery visionOS update
No Apple device will force you to update without your approval, which would require you to enter your password or PIN or at least accept to: [Install Now] or [Tonight].
And you can disable Auto Updates.

Unlike Windows computers; there have been many cases when Microsoft has forced updates on users with auto updates disabled, and caused trouble.
 
Power failure of what? You can attach a backup power source to the Vision Pro so it doesn't run out of power.
If there's a power failure at a hospital, they better have generators.
Medical equipment (monitors, etc.) could also fail unexpectedly and become a problem.
If the AVP fails, the doctor or an assistance can just take it off his head and continue by looking at a monitor.
So I don't see where's the issue, maybe it's just an excuse.

Be patient, sooner or later they will get it. Maybe their IT department is lame and afraid of new things or are Apple-phobics, or too lazy to learn new things.

IT didn't have a say in it, is was the surgery review board. Excuse or not, the current rule is that it has to have full visual pass-through if power fails (or it crashes, whatever) without having to be removed, reset or required assistance from someone else.

I'm not a surgeon, so I don't know more than that. I'm occasionally part of surgical teams, though.
 
This is not great and too risky. There are reasons why AR is not yet ready to use in real life.
What are you talking about, there are many doctors all over the world, using the AVP for surgeries and other procedures, like the ones in this article.
These are real surgeons doing real procedures, while testing the software they are developing for the Vision Pro.
 
IT didn't have a say in it, is was the surgery review board. Excuse or not, the current rule is that it has to have full visual pass-through if power fails (or it crashes, whatever) without having to be removed, reset or required assistance from someone else.

I'm not a surgeon, so I don't know more than that. I'm occasionally part of surgical teams, though.
No worries... same thing happened when the microwave oven was first invented... as time passed people stopped worrying about radiation and making a big issues out of it.
Others used to refused to use tablets for presentations or public talks, always carrying a paper copy. That's long in the past now (took about 10 years to some...).

When they hear about other hospitals and medical teams using it, they will not want to fall behind.
 
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This thing is no where near clear enough that I would want a surgeon wearing it while operating on me.
And you reached is conclusion because you are a trained surgeon who knows exactly how this will be used and you're sure it will lead to a bad outcome. Do you feel the same way about arthroscopic surgery where the joint is visualized by a small camera?
 
No worries... same thing happened when the microwave over was first invented... as time passed people stopped worrying about radiation and making a big issues out of it.
Others used to refused to use tablets for presentations or public talks, always carrying a paper copy. That's long in the past now (took about 10 years to some...).

When they hear about other hospitals and medical teams using it, they will not want to fall behind.

Possibly, but without doxxing myself, I do work at a magnet teaching/research hospital for the state/neighboring state, and the top hospital in the world for some specific procedures and some experimental surgeries.

What they decide often becomes policy.

I don't have a personal opinion on the subject, but I have no use for the Vision Pro myself.
 
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