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Surgeons at UCSD Find Apple Vision Pro Promising for Minimally Invasive Surgery

Imagine a future where AI needs to kill someone, and during surgery it manipulates visionOS to give wrong feedback to the Dr resulting in death. Sounds straight out of a movie.
 
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VP is potentially very compelling for niche professional uses like this. There could be a lot of these niches, professional and hobby, to make VP worth continuing for Apple long term, not to mention it builds toward AR glasses.
 
darkphoenix24 said:
It’s honestly much more cheaper than even CT software. I’m a researcher and I study vertebrate skulls and their evolution for a living using biomechanics. You wouldn’t believe how much some of the softwares we use cost ($4000-8000 per software per year, more depending on the number of machines). Hospitals also use the same CT software but can afford it compared to universities who are generally more stingy.

The resolution is currently much higher than the competition and I’ve tried one on several times.

As someone who exclusively works on 3D datasets, using an AVP makes so much more sense to me than a Wacom tablet and a workstation or a Mac and an iPad connected to SideCar. It’s much more cumbersome to pan, rotate and manipulate the CT images into a 3D volume rendering, only to realize that it’s not what you thought you segmented. i also find it hard to conceptualize certain muscle attachments and tendons using 2D images from publications or on a computer screen.

Currently trying to write this into a grant. It’s a lot cheaper than the 16K we paid for a Mac Pro 2019.

Doctors have used scopes, VR/AR and 3D printing for ages. 3D printing is expensive too depending on the scale and materials. And you’d have to go back and print every change you make. Instead, having a 3D model floating in front of your eyes in an Apple Vision Pro is way easier and game changing. You can speed up so much of the workflow.

Also check: https://www.medivis.com/
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Thank you for posting this.
Could you please share with us the names of the apps you are currently using to do your research work?
I have seen a few that would allow you to take apart a 3D model of a jet engine or a human heart.
 
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Unless the AVP gains Firewire 800 ports and hot-swappable drives, it's DOA for industrial applications.
 
Wait, does that mean I’ll be able to soon do my own surgeries with an OS update? Eh, I’m still not buying one.
 
Somehow reminded me of this gem.
 

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Surgeons at the University of California, San Diego have been testing the Apple Vision Pro for surgeries, and have performed more than 20 minimally invasive operations while wearing the headsets. Surgeon and director of the Center for Future Surgery at UCSD, Santiago Horgan, recently spoke with Time to provide some commentary on the Vision Pro's performance.

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According to Horgan, the Vision Pro could be "more transformative" than robotic devices that are used to assist in surgeries. While the Vision Pro is expensive for consumers, it is affordable for hospitals compared to most medical equipment, and it is widely available technology that many hospitals around the country will be able to take advantage of.

During laparoscopic surgeries, doctors send a camera through a small incision, and the camera's view is shown on a nearby screen. Doctors have to watch the screen while also operating on the patient, a process that the Vision Pro streamlines. Horgan says that surgeons need to look over at CT scans, monitor vitals, and more while doing these surgeries, and all of that information can be viewed through the Vision Pro instead.

This prevents surgeons from having to contort their bodies in odd positions, cutting down on discomfort while performing surgeries.

While Horgan has tried other headsets like Google Glass and Microsoft's HoloLens, the displays were not good enough. But the Vision Pro has high-resolution OLED displays, and the result has turned out to be "better than [UCSD surgeons] even expected."

In surgeries that involve the Vision Pro, doctors, assistants, and nurses all wear the headsets instead of looking at screens, and no patients have opted out of the Vision Pro surgeries.

UCSD is also testing the Vision Pro's ability to create 3D radiology imaging, and the team may also test it in other medical applications. More on how the Vision Pro and other similar devices are being tested for medical use is outlined in the full Time article.

Article Link: Surgeons at UCSD Find Apple Vision Pro Promising for Minimally Invasive Surgery
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I understand the utility because the high definition screen you get on the Vision Pro is dramatically better than the normal monitors in an operating room. I also understand the ability to be able to see multiple images at the same time as mentioned in this article

The real game changer will be when instead of having a two dimensional image if there can actually be a spatial video camera used in these procedures. That will truly be revolutionary.
 
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This thing is no where near clear enough that I would want a surgeon wearing it while operating on me.
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It’s actually very clear for the virtual objects like a video feed inside … it’s just the pass through of the outside world that’s a little hazy. So this would probably work great for surgery.
 
Amazing Iceman said:
What are you talking about, there are many doctors all over the world, using the AVP for surgeries and other procedures, like the ones in this article.
These are real surgeons doing real procedures, while testing the software they are developing for the Vision Pro.
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How do you know that? Those "many" doctors don't represent all and a few examples dont work as well. Besides, some doctors already pointed out problems with passthrough AR. Brining several articles dont really mean it has been proven. Beside, there are several AR companies doing that for a long time.
 
I can't believe there are some close-minded people out here. If a surgeon has completed 10+ procedures with the use of this, it is not different than other technology that they've been using in surgery, like robotically assisted operations. I would assume people in the medical field have higher IQ than the average Joe and would know what to do if and when the battery dies in a minimally invasive procedure, or if the headset fails for whatever reason. Surgeons are not completely reliant on ONE thing for the entire procedure.
 
And people, it's minimally invasive procedures. They're not doing open-heart or large abdominal procedures with them, lol. Big difference there. Significant keyword here.
 
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