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whoa i can't believe these numbers... but if verizon doesn't have voice/data simultaneously then I think these numbers will not reflect the general outcome of the data being present to the public at this juncture.

While I agree simultaneous voice/data is ideal, how many people really hold that as a make-or-break feature? Or rather, how what percentage of iPhone owners rely on looking something up while on a call regularly vs occasionally?
 
If AT&T actually believes there is a real chance of them losing 25% of their iPhone customers, they will probably be scared enough to actually solve some of the signal problems, I would think.

My neighborhood still has no 3G service in the middle of Houston TX (Hermann Park area) and I drop calls daily around my apartment (although other parts of town are ok).


AT&T most dropped calls ever, another paid ad by AT&T, I never had a cell provider in my years of cells phones, I'm 56 and have never had so many dropped calls, although their 3G coverage might be fast, but how fast is it when you can't get coverage? I have had the Verizon MiFi card and now the Sprint Overdrive device and enjoy a much wider coverage. I would fly after my 2 year contract was up with AT&T because if I'm not mistaken you AT&T iPhone 4G won't work on the Verizon network : (

Me and my AT&T iPhone 4G buddy laugh when we see ads that put AT&T in a good light about their network. I wish the iPhone was a better phone I wouldn't care as much about spotty 3G coverage, it has to be a phone first, it stinks in Illinois that's for sure. Funny if AT&T was so good why most people you ask about the iPhone say they would like the iPhone but could not deal with AT&T.
 
Verizon has no plans to roll out "real" LTE. Their plan is to roll out LTE for data at speeds that are barely faster than the current AT&T 3G. They plan on launching with phone that are CDMA compatible as a fallback (EVDO) for data and CDMA for voice because the voice standard is not ready for LTE yet.

Gonna need citations or links for those claims.
 
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I’ve been with ATT for years and I have always liked the customer service when I need something. On a few occasions, I went over my rate plan (unlimited now) and they were kind enough to reduce the overage fee. Another time I missed a paid teleconference and again, they made concessions. Lastly, I travel overseas so ATT is a no brainer’ due to their world band network. As for dropped calls I can say that I seldom have any problems with that. No, I don't work for the company, I'm just sharing.
 
AT&T most dropped calls ever, another paid ad by AT&T, I never had a cell provider in my years of cells phones, I 56 that have dropped so many calls and their 3G coverage might be fast, but how fast is it when you can't get coverage?

Pretty much summed up my old experiences of driving on I 94 between Michigan and Illinois. AT&T was the only provider I ever had (Sprint, Verizon and AT&T) that lost signal multiple times on this stretch of highway. And AT&T was bad before they could blame it on the iPhone destroying their network!

And trying to get out of contract when I have 0 bars at home? Their brilliant CS told me "Well you can always go outside to make and receive calls" because on my lawn they tested between 0-1 bar of 1x power. Yep.
 
Actually, there's new technology called SVDO which allows for simultaneous voice and data on CDMA networks with very minimal network reconfiguration. I believe Qualcomm has a part that's sitting on a shelf, waiting for a handset manufacturer.

SVDO is not "new" per se. It's a reaction to UMTS's ability to have voice and data at the same time. SVDO is basically adding an entire extra chipset to the equation, so you need to have the 1X chip and also a separate EVDO chip. Double the cost, potentially greater power drain, more real estate taken up on the PCB... not real elegant. Plus, I remain unconvinced that there would be no infrastructure impacts with SVDO.

QC makes a lot of claims, a lot turn out to be truthful but some are way off the mark.
 
Pretty much summed up my old experiences of driving on I 94 between Michigan and Illinois. AT&T was the only provider I ever had (Sprint, Verizon and AT&T) that lost signal multiple times on this stretch of highway. And AT&T was bad before they could blame it on the iPhone destroying their network!

And trying to get out of contract when I have 0 bars at home? Their brilliant CS told me "Well you can always go outside to make and receive calls" because on my lawn they tested between 0-1 bar of 1x power. Yep.

That seems odd.......

BTW once Centennial gets fully integrated......
 
it has been well documented on other blogs that verizon's LTE will have real world speeds of around 5mbps

not even close to t-Mobile's 3G HSPA+

OK, I see your error. You're taking blogs as truth.

Might want to reconsider that.

Blogs are not documentation.
 
Okay with AT$T...

Personally, I'm ok with at&t. I wish there plans were a little more affordable. Sprint offers the "unlimited everything plan" for a lot less than my family 700 minute and texting plan on AT$T.

Other than cash AT&T has been good (and getting better all the time) for me.
 
What this doesn't account for (and in reality would probably be difficult to articulate) is the number of consumers who haven't gotten an iPhone purely because of it being locked to AT&T, and probably also the users who got rid of their iPhone because of a poor AT&T experience. I know at least two dozen people who fall into either of those categories.
 
Small numbers compared to the overall GSM market. So, there is no incentive, ...

Another common myth. The real market data tells a totally different story.

Billions of GSM users, many very poor, do not translate to that many expensive smartphone (and required data plan) buyers. (In India, only 0.04% of GSM users on carriers selling the iPhone bought one. )

Heck, even in some well off countries, such as Spain and Italy, Windows Mobile is still used more than the iPhone. Yes, it's surprising. In other places like Japan, almost nobody bought an iPhone until they were given away for free.

In contrast, USA AT&T users have accounted for almost half of all iPhones sold worldwide since 2007. And they're just a third of the potential USA market. If Apple hit both Verizon and Sprint, the sales could easily match AT&T or offshore sales, making CDMA a third of the world iPhone market.

I'd say that's plenty of incentive. Not to mention, they surely want to stem all the converts to Android.
 
I think I'm stuck with ATT strictly based on the fact that htey have the perfect plan for me right now.

$70 a month for minutes (450) data (200mb) and text (1500)

It's the perfect nitch for me, I can't go to verizon due to the CDMA crap and sprint/tmobile don't have this good of a deal last time I checked.
 
SVDO is not "new" per se. It's a reaction to UMTS's ability to have voice and data at the same time. SVDO is basically adding an entire extra chipset to the equation, so you need to have the 1X chip and also a separate EVDO chip. Double the cost, potentially greater power drain, more real estate taken up on the PCB... not real elegant. Plus, I remain unconvinced that there would be no infrastructure impacts with SVDO.

QC makes a lot of claims, a lot turn out to be truthful but some are way off the mark.
SVDO is new because A.) it wasn't around last year, and B.) no one has implemented it yet.

I agree that it is not an elegant solution.

I have no comment about SVDO infrastructure impacts nor Qualcomm's accuracy of their public statements.

I'm just telling the guy I responded to that simultaneous voice and data on a CDMA network is possible. Yes, it could be a power-hungry, bulky expensive workaround, but there are parts available to make it happen.

Of course, it's plausible that Apple looked at Qualcomm's SVDO chipset and backed away in disgust or told Qualcomm to rework the silicon.

:D
 
9% None of the above

Why is CREDO Mobile not an option in the survey?

I just switched to CREDO from AT&T, and I wonder how many of the other 9% did the same.

Hot tip: The only CREDO phone with a SIM card is the BlackBerry Tour... so if you want to buy a fancier unlocked cell phone and use it with CREDO, you can just get the BlackBerry Tour with data plan and swap the SIM!
 
Ok sure...but think about it, they already have the iPhone and how many of them are under contract and risk a $275+ fee for canceling their service. To me the fact that 23% would bail is not good news.

Very good point. 23% of subscribers who would take the ETF hit is actually very large (and surprising). The absolutely huge losses will come in 1-2 years though when people don't re-sign for another 2 yr contract. This also doesn't count the millions of people (potential AT&T customers) sitting on the sidelines waiting for a Verizon iPhone with their 2+ year-old dumbphone in their hands.

Verizon and T-Mobile: Worst selections are phones that I have ever seen. CDMA=yuk!

T-Mo is not CDMA.

And trying to get out of contract when I have 0 bars at home? Their brilliant CS told me "Well you can always go outside to make and receive calls" because on my lawn they tested between 0-1 bar of 1x power. Yep.

That's actually really funny! Sounds like something Jobs would say.
 
I just wish that Apple would launch the iPhone on Verizon so that we can talk about something else. For years you'd think that the US was the only country where the iPhone wasn't available from every cellular carrier. No doubt as soon as the iPhone is available from Verizon these stories will end because as long as the US market is OK then the world is OK...

Sorry, I've not really said this before but this whole issue just sounds like whinging and US self-importance.
 
The poll addresses current customers who might switch. It doesn't cover those who might actually be first-time buyers if another carrier was available, with coverage in their area.
 
Almost Right

Actually Chumboro almost got it right. Everyone who complains about AT+T's poor service and compares it to Verizon forgets one thing - AT+T's volume of calls and data has increased exponentially with the the introduction of the iPhone. Would the situation be reversed if Verizon were the exclusive carrier?

Put another way, Verizon has not been burdened with the rapid build out that AT+T has undertaken and the demand for increased geographic coverage. True - Verizon had the geographic coverage but not the capacity.

So Chumboro is may be correct - if enough people leave AT+T his service may improve. But in the interim AT+T is building coverage and capacity.

I will stick with AT+T.
 
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