I would love to. But I still haven't gotten them yet and i ordered them over a month ago.
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Swan M10 Unboxing & Review (Updated)
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I would love to. But I still haven't gotten them yet and i ordered them over a month ago.
Are you serious?! They still haven't given you any update on when the speakers will be shipped? Hmm.
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They were on backorder. The shipment probably hasn't come in yet. I tried to order some about two months ago literally the day they sold their last set. I emailed him and asked if I could change my order to the D1080MkII's. He switched it and didn't charge extra. I don't know if this is something you might consider doing, but it might be worth a try. The D1080's are magnificent.
To my knowledge, there was an issue with the freight (I assume they're shipped by container ship) and customs that delayed the shipment by several weeks.
The problem is that he's had them for about a week now but does not seem to have shipped any of them out yet. I'm sure there's a decent backlog, but my complaint is that he hasn't fulfilled his promises several times.
"Should begin shipping by Monday." "All backorders will be shipped by the end of Thursday."
Also, thegoldenmackid, I hope my dropping jerk alongside your name wasn't taken personally. My intention was just to say that you can come off a bit hostile with your recommendations sometimes.
update: My order was changed to shipped about an hour ago! I've got a FedEx tracking number that is only 9 digits... seems a little weird.
Also awesome to hear that Jon is providing some sort of warranty service himself.
I do have to say, I'm pretty impressed with Jon, the founder of The Audio Insider, he said that they'll just outright replace my M10s, I'm a happy camper.
Ordered yesterday and got the shipment notification this afternoon. Can't wait for them to arrive. 
Ordered a pair of M10 today and got shipping notice an hour or so later. Due here next Wednesday.
I received an email about why the orders have been backordered today. A couple of hours later, I received my tracking number and they should be arriving by Monday. I can't wait to add these M10's to my new iMac. Sweet.
I'm glad that all of your orders have processed. As some of you have pointed out, it would be helpful for everyone to post their experiences. While the argument that was being had above had little to do with the Swan's at this point, the point is not for me to get an arguments, but rather provide people recommendations.
Before you make any serious comments, remember that the burn-in period ranges anywhere from 50-100 hours. You are free to make initial comments, but even an untrained ear should be able to tell the difference between them at Hour 0 and Hour 100.
Before you make any serious comments, remember that the burn-in period ranges anywhere from 50-100 hours. You are free to make initial comments, but even an untrained ear should be able to tell the difference between them at Hour 0 and Hour 100.
Little to do with the Swans? How do you figure? This has everything to do with Swans. You are saying they are great, and I'm saying they suck for the price. If these speakers were $50 - it would be a great deal. But for a speaker system that has low wattage, that basically is discontinued, a sub where you have to use up room on your desk, a "sub" that is just basically a woofer, and no headphone jack - these are overpriced. Not to mention TONS of complaints about interference and buzzing coming from these speakers.
You can get a lot more with other brands, with better sound, a real sub, line in and out jacks, for the same price.
One makes me think you have some sort of agreement to AudioInsider, to be pimping these to the point that you are.
I'm not arguing with anyone. I can speak from actually having a pair, they suck. Just my opinion.
My M10's finally arrived to my house today and set them up. I'm no audiophile, but these sound real good to me. I know there will be some time for these to burn in, but by listening to music for the past hour and a half, I am definitely happy with my purchase. Sweet.
I thought you were done, you said that you were done, so I moved on, seems you did not. I thought I was the one that lacked any maturity? Try to respond to the prior posts, and by that, I mean the ones you didn't respond to.
1. You missed the boat on the digital v. analog discussion and still haven't explained it.
2. You praise USB as the solution for high-end audio? XLR and RCA seem to be the routes, you seem to have this vendetta against RCA.
3. You constantly misquote me?
4. As -aggie- said, you dismiss me solely of my age. Very few users seem to find me unhelpful.
5. You constantly claim to have tons of evidence, you provide none. You make bold claims without any proof.
6. Your claims that I know nothing about audio
7. Your final shot is to make a generalization about my age, talk about your coworker who find me funny and then throw around numbers and names. Your parting shot is, "I just purchased Mackie M5 monitors for my other computer. I'll enjoy rich sound from these, as you enjoy your little $50 Swan "monitors" LOL." My home set-up is KRK E8s, V88s and V8 Series I, if we want to play the name dropping game, let us.
A. What kind of headphones use a 1/8" jack?
B. You'll have a DAC
C. Who wouldn't want to add the additional device that could only distort the system
No, my problem with you has little to do with your opinions on the Swans. Maybe it has to do with other things:
1. You missed the boat on the digital v. analog discussion and still haven't explained it.
2. You praise USB as the solution for high-end audio? XLR and RCA seem to be the routes, you seem to have this vendetta against RCA.
3. You constantly misquote me?
4. As -aggie- said, you dismiss me solely of my age. Very few users seem to find me unhelpful.
5. You constantly claim to have tons of evidence, you provide none. You make bold claims without any proof.
6. Your claims that I know nothing about audio
7. Your final shot is to make a generalization about my age, talk about your coworker who find me funny and then throw around numbers and names. Your parting shot is, "I just purchased Mackie M5 monitors for my other computer. I'll enjoy rich sound from these, as you enjoy your little $50 Swan "monitors" LOL." My home set-up is KRK E8s, V88s and V8 Series I, if we want to play the name dropping game, let us.
You replaced these with something that cost three times as much, that's quite a comparison. You are in the minority of this, there are some complaints about the speakers, but the last one seems to be that they are overpriced, see the other users that seem to join me in this.
Yeah, they would be a better deal.
What is your fetish with watts. We have already established (or so I think?) that watts doesn't translate into more power (more power doesn't lead to better sound quality) and more watts doesn't equate to better sound quality. So what is the point of this?
My KRK V8 Series I's are discontinued, they are still fine. Yamaha's NS10s - the standard for studios, also discontinued. This has absolutely nothing to do with anything. They clearly are still making them, or at least shipping them.
It's a midwoofer, not a subwoofer.
This is something that Swan didn't think was necessary. You, being the audiophile that you are obviously wouldn't care, because:
A. What kind of headphones use a 1/8" jack?
B. You'll have a DAC
C. Who wouldn't want to add the additional device that could only distort the system
Now you are just making up stuff, my iPhone sits on top of the right speaker all the time with zero interference.
Your two alternatives don't meet either criteria. The M-Audio AV40's don't feature a sub. The Klipsch ProMedia 2.1's (I will disregard the large problems in quality that the ProMedia series had) is $40 more; discontinued, which you think is a problem and doesn't offer better sound accuracy. Look around, for users that want increased volume and a much more significant bass, I never fail to mention the Klipsch. Any other competitors?
Thank you for the other accusations. I don't have any agreement with the AudioInsider, although it would be nice. If you look around I tend to be helpful with a lot of the products I own and enjoy. As with the Swans there is a lot of mystery, so I answer questions. I review tons of products and speak my mind about all of them. I assure you that if I was being compensated at all, the moderating staff would have shut this down
Okay. No other user has agreed with you, perhaps if you responded in a more thorough manner with evidence and logic, people might believe you.
Just wait for the burn-in.I can't believe I was missing these sounds before...
nyguy4u thinks you made a bad purchase, I'm only eighteen so my opinion doesn't matter.
I would imagine not, given that Jon seems to have a fairly large demand, seems like no need for them to discount.
I frankly don't care what nyguy4u thinks about my purchase. These speakers work for ME and I know I will enjoy them.
At least I am not bashing these speakers without hearing them. Like I said, if they were cheaper - they'd be great. No doubt they look good. Yes, they sound "decent". But, like I said a few days ago, with so many speakers in the $100-$150 price range, I don't want speakers to sound "decent", I want them to sound AWESOME. No doubt Bose sucks. But, do they sound better than the M10's? Absolutely. I'm not name dropping when I state I bought Mackie MR5's. However, these entry level monitors are simply amazing, with no sub needed being they have low end, and ONE Mackie MR5 is better than the entire Swan M10 set, and for only $50 more. Klipsch Promedia 2.1s are not discontinued like you stated. They discontinued their 5.1, and 6.1 systems, not their 2.1 systems. They sound 50 times better than Swans (better lows, better mids, better highs, just don't look as good as Swans)
I've been in this business many years, and you can't change what my ears heard with the M10's. To someone who doesn't know any better, they are fine. There are just so many more sets in this price range however, that sound much, MUCH, better. That's not an opinion, that's a FACT. That is why not many resources sell them, it just can't compete with other systems in the price range.
I don't care who purchases these speakers. I'm just stating facts that you can buy much better 2.1 sets for the same price. Harmon Kardon Soundsticks are a great example.
http://www.amazon.com/Harman-SoundSticks-II-Multimedia-Speaker/dp/B0001DBEM4
Same price, but they look much better (my personal opinion), have a cleaner sound (fact), separate bass and treble controls (fact), and MUCH better bass (COMPLETE fact)
But hey, if your happy with what you got, that's all that matters.
All I'm doing is warning people that there is much better products out there for the price you are wasting on Swan's.
I've been in this business many years, and you can't change what my ears heard with the M10's. To someone who doesn't know any better, they are fine. There are just so many more sets in this price range however, that sound much, MUCH, better. That's not an opinion, that's a FACT. That is why not many resources sell them, it just can't compete with other systems in the price range.
I don't care who purchases these speakers. I'm just stating facts that you can buy much better 2.1 sets for the same price. Harmon Kardon Soundsticks are a great example.
http://www.amazon.com/Harman-SoundSticks-II-Multimedia-Speaker/dp/B0001DBEM4
Same price, but they look much better (my personal opinion), have a cleaner sound (fact), separate bass and treble controls (fact), and MUCH better bass (COMPLETE fact)
But hey, if your happy with what you got, that's all that matters.
All I'm doing is warning people that there is much better products out there for the price you are wasting on Swan's.
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so what would you say are better than the swans in the $100-$125 range
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Well one, would be the Harmon Kardon Soundsticks like I previously mentioned.
Another would be M-Audio AV40's (read the reviews, they are all good)
http://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-Studi...8&s=musical-instruments&qid=1259122246&sr=8-1
Another is the JBL Creature II 3-Piece Powered Speaker System (again, almost 100% positive reviews)
http://www.amazon.com/JBL-Creature-...2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1259122358&sr=8-2
Do these few examples compare to the look of the Swans? No.. I personally think the Swans look much better. But really, isn't sound quality more important?
I am not trying to be an idiot here, I am trying to help people realize that the Swans aren't the best thing since sliced bread. They are a low quality speaker set, candy coated to look nice. Not to mention not being practical by having no headphone jack, having to put the "sub" on your desk, and the volume knob being on the "sub" itself.
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I am no means an audio person but the m-audios have no woofer so we can throw them out........and your right the swans look really nice but my problem is I dont want to have to put the woofer on my desk because its not big enough for it........and i also want something that looks good what about the wireless klipsch 2.1 or are wireless speakers not a good idea
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Well I mentioned M-Audio, because they are actually highly recommended, as well as M-Audio being a GREAT brand. I've heard the AV40's, and they blow Swans out of the water (no pun intended). You will rarely read a bad review on them. They are "monitors", not speakers. With monitors, you will literally hear the way the music was recorded.
A better description of the AV40's can be found here..
http://www.samash.com/p/Studiophile AV40 Reference Active Studio Monitors Pair_-49991289
I personally am not a fan of wireless speakers, however - I am a fan of Klipsch.
A better description of the AV40's can be found here..
http://www.samash.com/p/Studiophile AV40 Reference Active Studio Monitors Pair_-49991289
I personally am not a fan of wireless speakers, however - I am a fan of Klipsch.
at the rate I am going I am never going to buy speakers...I can not decide which ones to get.....ok here it is...i want speakers that if i watch a movie they sound good and if i listen to music sometimes radio stations other times thru itunes they sound good to...any suggestions now
nyguy4u, you make no sense. In addition to not responding to any of my posts, the audiophile in you:
1. Owns a pair of Bose Companions & M-Audio 40s (and Mackie MR5s)
2. Is a fan of Klipsch
3. Recommends Soundsticks & JBL Creatures
In addition to the last point being absolutely ridiculous in terms of sound quality, have you even heard any of these?
1. Owns a pair of Bose Companions & M-Audio 40s (and Mackie MR5s)
2. Is a fan of Klipsch
3. Recommends Soundsticks & JBL Creatures
In addition to the last point being absolutely ridiculous in terms of sound quality, have you even heard any of these?
the speaker thing is making my head spin..............ok the m10 woofer has to placed at head level right...could it be wall mounted just above my monitor??
Yeah the RCA inputs/outputs can obviously be extended. The only other chord is the power chord, which can also be extended and is good for (if my memory serves me correctly) about eight feet, when I get back I can do some more serious measurements.
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