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OK so agree with some of above.

"and how to kill background apps (double tap home button then swipe up on the apps"

You don't need to kill background apps. It won't effect your battery, or anything else.

I am only 2 years into iPhones, but much happier with them than my Androids. Both have pros and cons. Just found my iPhones more trouble free than my Androids. Especially on the need to reboot. iTunes and Apple Music serve my needs perfectly. Although, I am not a huge numbers user of photos and music.



 
Wait till you realize that the limited ram won't keep your browser tabs open.

I have boom beach, clash of clans, 4 tabs in chrome and see no ill effects.
I use my macbook and imac for web browsing mainly and iphone for text/calls and games mainly oh and photos.

I have narrowed down the photos I carry on my phone now as only 16GB.

and at rugmankc, in android it good to close background apps as still using ram.
Is this not the case in ios?

Especially as in clash of clans and boom beach unable to sign out.
In android I hit back button and it ask if want sign out.
cannot do this in ios and the left swipe not do anything in these apps.
 
OK so I have been android user since android phones started almost.

mostly been samsung devices.

So my S7 has to go for repair and an old contract came up for renewal.

So managed to get a 6 plus at almost no extra cost.

First impressions are great!
nice size as i like big devices.

smooth operations to get it going.
Great camera.
OK may lack low light capability of the s7 however it can focus closer. this is of more use to me than low light photos.

Screen not so vibrant as s7 but easier on eyes

so far my only niggles is ringtones.
Cannot just select song and set as ringtone like android, big shame.

and photos harder to setup albums than android and I really not like it.

minor niggles but great phone, considering selling the s7 edge.

I did the exact opposite. i bought a galaxy s5 for a back up phone, sold my 6 (buying a 7),used it for 8 days and learned how much i hated android. I was excited to see something different and to experience the "openness" of android but when all was said and done, i just hated my experience. even if it was only going to be for a couple months, i couldn't do it. Ended up selling the gs5 (for a profit... was pretty excited about that) and bought an IPhone 5s
 
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Wait till you realize that the limited ram won't keep your browser tabs open.

And until you realize that it doesnt matter how much iphone has ram, it still shuts down background apps... And most of the "multi"-this-and-that are just temporary screenshots about apps and places you were... How disappointing!
 
I too miss the back button more than anything.... I just don't find it intuitive without. If EVERY app supported the same back swipe gesture we'd be good, but they don't. Also, if there is a Google alternative app for Apple apps, like Photos for example, I use Google's app; they work better for me.
 
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I have boom beach, clash of clans, 4 tabs in chrome and see no ill effects.
I use my macbook and imac for web browsing mainly and iphone for text/calls and games mainly oh and photos.

I have narrowed down the photos I carry on my phone now as only 16GB.

and at rugmankc, in android it good to close background apps as still using ram.
Is this not the case in ios?

Especially as in clash of clans and boom beach unable to sign out.
In android I hit back button and it ask if want sign out.
cannot do this in ios and the left swipe not do anything in these apps.
Four tabs is about the most I got on a 6 plus. I regularly have about ten open, but I also use my iPhone more than any other device. I basically do everything I possibly can on my phone and reluctantly move over to a computer when forced to.

If that works for you, that's fantastic. The 6s series just handles tabs better. I can have a dozen open and be fine. If you don't need that, though, it's not likely to make a difference in your life.

Coupled with lots ofnframerste drops and flat out lag, for my usage the 6 plus was honestly the worst iPhone I ever had. I was stubborn and kept it because it was the first iPhone with a nice big screen. I should've just stayed with my 5s for a second year and gotten the 6s plus this year. Love and learn.
 
Unless I missed something, the only thing missing from the iCloud backup was Apple Pay info. There may have been something else, but I just don't feel like the difference between the two is that big a deal. It takes a minute or two to set up Apple Pay for even several cards.

As for the music content, like others have said, I would just use something like vlc player. I also tried out an app call CloudBeats that was really good. There are several apps like that out there. The only drawback that I've seen is that you can't use Siri to play songs...at least for another couple months we can't.

In any case, my full backup, including my photo library, exceeds the modest 5GB of iCloud storage that is offered for free. I'm not going to pay for more storage just to be able to backup without iTunes.
 
I may be mistaken about the passwords, but there are definitely limitations to an iCloud backup. The most complete backup you can do requires iTunes and a computer. And there's all the other content management I mentioned.

https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT204136

No, you are wrong. Did you read the support article you linked to? iCloud and iTunes backups are both missing the same things, ApplePay and TouchID data, for security reasons.

There may have been a time when iCloud backups were less complete than iTunes, but it's not true anymore. And I want to be clear that we're talking about backups, not syncing, which is a different process.
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And until you realize that it doesnt matter how much iphone has ram, it still shuts down background apps...

Android doesn't manage its own RAM usage, by shutting down unused apps? Wow, I had no idea! So you have to kill them manually?
 
No, you are wrong. Did you read the support article you linked to? iCloud and iTunes backups are both missing the same things, ApplePay and TouchID data, for security reasons.

There may have been a time when iCloud backups were less complete than iTunes, but it's not true anymore. And I want to be clear that we're talking about backups, not syncing, which is a different process.
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Android doesn't manage its own RAM usage, by shutting down unused apps? Wow, I had no idea! So you have to kill them manually?

Yes, I've come to realize that my iCloud backup is limited compared to through iTunes because of the meager 5GB of iCloud storage that is offered, which still means I and no doubt other users have to use iTunes to backup, sync (yes, I know those are too different things) and manage content. My point all along was simply that in one way or another, iOS tends to tie you to iTunes. I'm not too broken up about it, but many users don't like it. I've personally known Android users who have told me that they avoid iPhones solely because they hate dealing with iTunes.
 
No, it tends to tie you to iTunes. I haven't launched iTunes or any other desktop application in a very long time.

"You" in the general sense. It hasn't tied you (personally) to iTunes... Fantastic! Do you honestly think that you're representative of every iPhone user, especially those who aren't savvy enough to figure out other solutions than the one that Apple expects you to use, which is iTunes?

I'm not trying to dump on Apple here. Why would I be using an iPhone if I didn't like them? But it's not even an argument that iOS is more restrictive when it comes to managing content than Android is. And prospective iOS users are put off by iTunes because they're not accustomed to needing workarounds for things that they can do on Android without any special apps or software.
 
I've personally known Android users who have told me that they avoid iPhones solely because they hate dealing with iTunes.

What is so difficult about iTunes? I have no trouble dealing with it, I do it on a daily basis – for listening to music on the Mac, customising my ID3 tags, and yes, doing the occasional backup or file transfer with my iPhone. Granted, it's not my favourite Mac app ever, but it's way better than any Windows software I've had the displeasure to use. Let's not even get into Linux GUI apps...
 
What is so difficult about iTunes? I have no trouble dealing with it, I do it on a daily basis – for listening to music on the Mac, customising my ID3 tags, and yes, doing the occasional backup or file transfer with my iPhone. Granted, it's not my favourite Mac app ever, but it's way better than any Windows software I've had the displeasure to use. Let's not even get into Linux GUI apps...

Never said it was difficult, I just said that some people don't like it, especially Windows users. And some don't appreciate the feeling that they are forced to use it to properly manage content on their device.
 
I Cannot get them to be visible offline.

Please advise if possible.

and to leftofthereef, I do have the 6s plus sorry should have been more clear.

Just wish my games supported the left wipe to go back but actually liking the iphone and looks like will be selling the s7 edge.
 
'Savvy'? LOL, yeah turning on iCloud on your phone requires a CS degree.

Settings > iCloud > on

How does simply turning on iCloud handle all the content management on your device? Again, I'm talking about more than just backups, which may be larger than the 5GB of free iCloud storage anyway. People might have different content management needs than you do, and not know how to achieve them without iTunes.

I don't even get why this is a debate. Some people are put off by iTunes and its use in managing iOS devices. This is a fact. Don't shoot the messenger.
 
I Cannot get them to be visible offline.

Please advise if possible.

and to leftofthereef, I do have the 6s plus sorry should have been more clear.

Just wish my games supported the left wipe to go back but actually liking the iphone and looks like will be selling the s7 edge.


To the left of each file in Google Drive, there is a menu option (three vertical dots). Click that and toggle "available offline" to the on position.

If you're only doing this for photos, you should try the google photos app. The presentation is much better.
 
OK so I have been android user since android phones started almost.

mostly been samsung devices.

So my S7 has to go for repair and an old contract came up for renewal.

So managed to get a 6s plus at almost no extra cost.

First impressions are great!
nice size as i like big devices.

smooth operations to get it going.
Great camera.
OK may lack low light capability of the s7 however it can focus closer. this is of more use to me than low light photos.

Screen not so vibrant as s7 but easier on eyes

so far my only niggles is ringtones.
Cannot just select song and set as ringtone like android, big shame.

and photos harder to setup albums than android and I really not like it.

minor niggles but great phone, considering selling the s7 edge.


I use an iPhone as my personal phone and we have been using androids...Mostly Galaxy phones for some time. I agree with everything you pointed out. I have a personal preference for iPhones, but I know it's a personal thing.

Basically I wanted to point out that the ringtone thing is one of my pet peeves, though now that I have an Apple watch my phone is usually on vibrate anyway.
 
I don't even get why this is a debate. Some people are put off by iTunes and its use in managing iOS devices. This is a fact.

Yes, as sad as it may sound. Some people are even put off by other people being happy. It's a state of mind, I guess. And like you say, not worth debating.
 
How does simply turning on iCloud handle all the content management on your device? Again, I'm talking about more than just backups, which may be larger than the 5GB of free iCloud storage anyway. People might have different content management needs than you do, and not know how to achieve them without iTunes.

I don't even get why this is a debate. Some people are put off by iTunes and its use in managing iOS devices. This is a fact. Don't shoot the messenger.
Reading the comments here as well as the histories of some of the posters, some
Folks seem to want to pass their experiences as fact. Further they cannot imagine how anyone else can have an experience or level of understanding in any way different than them.

Welcome to [insert any tech enthusiast forum here].
 
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I have found the 6s plus battery to outlast the S7 edge.

I am using it pretty much as the S7 before.

One neat think we have discovered is when using bluetooth headphones, it shows the battery on the headphone on task bar at top of screen.
New to us and very useful, well done apple!

Still loving the iphone.

Taken photos of the cat in lowish light and the iphone coped well.
Not tried it side by side with the S7 and chucked S7 back in its box.

Everyday I use the iphone I am more inclined to sell the S7 edge
 
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This. For the life of me I don't understand why people buy iPhones, then torture themselves with iTunes like its 2012. It's so unnecessary.

I have songs on my computer, in my itunes library. I don't have itunes match but I do pay for Apple Music.

How do I put all of the songs on my itunes on to my iPhone without using itunes?
The alternative would be for me to go on my iphone and one by one click the iCloud download button - seems like a major pain in the butt.

Any thoughts?
 
I have songs on my computer, in my itunes library. I don't have itunes match but I do pay for Apple Music.

How do I put all of the songs on my itunes on to my iPhone without using itunes?
The alternative would be for me to go on my iphone and one by one click the iCloud download button - seems like a major pain in the butt.

Any thoughts?


You can use a third party app that syncs with Dropbox/Google Drive/One Drive like CloudBeats. But even if you want to continue using the stock music app, you only have to use iTunes once each time you restore your phone (which shouldn't be happening too frequently).

My comment was directed at those who believe one has to be married to iTunes to own an iPhone. Like I said, that's unnecessary nowadays.
 
One neat think we have discovered is when using bluetooth headphones, it shows the battery on the headphone on task bar at top of screen.

I really think that's a very underrated aspect of iOS.

Companies build headphones and Apple provides them that way to interact with the status bar as such. Some Bluetooth headphones take advantage of it, some don't. I've ventured to Android side and it bugged me not to have that feature.

But Android has the ability to disconnect headphones through the drop down Notification and not miss a beat instead having to directly go to Settings to disconnect. So, there's always a pro and con to the way Android and iOS handles things.
 
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