Sweat Through Armband

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  1. basesloaded190 macrumors 68030

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    Ok its still hot in Wisconsin and lately after i get back from my runs, i get very sweaty and notice that the sweat from my arms and t-shirt are soaking through my armband and getting on the back of my Iphone. Should I be worried and stop using my using the phone(for music) while i run??
     
  2. jav6454 macrumors P6

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    Check the water marks inside the headphone jack. If enough sweat got thru it, then the sensors changed color from white to pink. Pink colored sensors meaning your iPhone look as if it was dropped in water, which in these case it is not, but to an Apple Genius, you'd have a hard time proving.
     
  3. basesloaded190 thread starter macrumors 68030

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    No Pink in the headphone jack. Im just worried that with all the moisture on the back it might somehow get through and really mess things up. Maybe Im wrong and that can't happen, I don't know.
     
  4. jav6454 macrumors P6

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    It's good to be cautious. Now you know about your sweat pouring out and possibly affecting your iPhone.

    Best corse of action is to see if you can find a armband that doesn't leak as much. Not a free solution, but it's better than having a pink coded phone and loose warranty over another potential problem.
     
  5. basesloaded190 thread starter macrumors 68030

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    That's probably the best option i guess. Id hate to have anything happen from just me running. Ill look into other armbands or see if the family has any other ipods floating around the house that aren't being used.

    Any suggestions on armbands??
     
  6. jav6454 macrumors P6

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    Sorry I don't have armbands nor do I run (at all 0_o) [Side note: I should get on running...]

    back on topic: Click Me
     
  7. MistaBungle macrumors 6502a

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    I would suggest apply an BSE (best skin ever) to the device. It is really thin, practically not even there and will add a layer for moisture protection. However the dock is still wide open. What I did was used a dock plug from a previous skin and just threw it in when I did physical activity.
     
  8. basesloaded190 thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Im guessing something of a plastic material is going to be much more sufficient than those with just a cloth like material?
     
  9. jav6454 macrumors P6

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    Might I recommend carrying a small towel with you (same size as sheet of letter paper) so that you can keep yourself dry in the armband area if you see the same results again.
     
  10. grantsdale macrumors 6502a

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    Its not going to seep through the back of the phone, no.
     
  11. kdarling macrumors demi-god

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    There's also a moisture tag behind the dock connector. That's the one that'll probably trigger from sweat.

    See Apple diagrams here.

    (There are supposedly also ones at the lower left and upper right behind the LCD.)

    One day it'd be nice if Apple fortified those ingress points instead of simply putting detectors there to void the warranty. Not impressed with their engineering design team.
     
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  13. schwell macrumors regular

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    Perhaps they should. By the way, which device or UI that you worked on is better than the iPhone?
     
  14. sidewinder macrumors 68020

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    I am not impressed with your reasoning.

    I haven't read anything anywhere in Apple's marketing or sales material to suggest the iPhone is said to be water resistant or water proof. So you should not expect it to be or treat it as such.

    They want to know if you let the iPhone get wet enough for water to enter the inside which would be something that should void the hardware warranty.

    I am impressed with the iPhone and thinks the design team did a incredible job.

    S-
     
  15. firedogut macrumors regular

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    The iPhone is marketed for Running, at least the 3gs is. It comes with the Nike software ready to go. I would expect apple to make the phone so that it can handle a little sweat.
     
  16. sidewinder macrumors 68020

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    That's not a reasonable expectation.

    If someone sweats enough for fluid to get inside the iPhone, they need to do something different. The iPhone is not water resistant, period.

    S-
     
  17. nehunte macrumors 6502

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    You could probably dump a gallon of water over the iPhone and not ruin it. The phone is sealed up really tight. The two water marks everybody is talking about are really sensitive. Leaving the phone in the bathroom while taking a shower has been known to trip the watermarks. My recommendation: Get an iPod Nano to use while exercising. You don't want to run the chance of tripping those watermarks on the iPhone.
     
  18. basesloaded190 thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Yeah i may have an extra nano at home, so that's will be my first option, otherwise ill look into a different armband. Don't want to buy a new one seeing as though mine is only a month old, but i guess its better than getting my phone ruined
     
  19. kdarling macrumors demi-god

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    Don't get me started :)

    Any UI that I've done over the past 25 years is better in many ways. For one thing, I don't like hidden gestures like the two-finger iPhone div/textfield scroll. For another, not having a way to quickly scroll to the middle of their own PDF manual is just plain sadistic to a user.

    As for devices, I've designed parts of portable casino gaming devices that are used in fairly harsh conditions (lots of spilled drinks, for example), and worked for the past ten years with touchscreen handhelds for field techs. I and others were doing stuff like fingertip scrolling long before Apple figured it out in mid-2006.

    It's a phone. It's an iPod. It's going to get used outdoors.

    One of the whole points of going with a touchscreen, versus buttons, is that you should be able to avoid having as many physical moisture penetration points.

    Other phones put the detector under the battery where raindrops can't trigger them. Apple, not having a removeable battery, had to place them where store clerks could see them. So they placed them virtually exposed at the two most obvious ingress points, the jack and dock connector.

    Knowing that these were vulnerable areas, a good designer of a supposedly upperclass device would've used a waterproof jack, and set up a water resistant connector assembly.

    Even if they wanted to go super cheap, visual vanity prevented Apple from at least supplying basic plugs to cover these openings.

    It's classic form over function, at the expense of the consumer's warranty.
     
  20. sidewinder macrumors 68020

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    kdarling,

    You know, I have come across many people like you in my 30 years in the computer industry. You think you know what is the best way to do things and have the proper perspective. Well guess what? You are not all that. You see things differently than I do, but not necessarily better than I do.

    If you think you can do better, prove it by building a better device and sell it against Apple. Google couldn't do it. Palm can't either. Is your ego so large that you think you are better than all the designers at Apple, Google, and Palm?

    S-
     
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  22. kdarling macrumors demi-god

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    If you think their design is top notch, and wish to defend it, that's your right.

    As I said, I think the iPhone could've been designed so that it did not have to have moisture detectors where they could be triggered by normal use.

    As for users being expected to notice that Apple didn't say it was moisture resistant... well, most people expect (and have experienced) using other phones even in the rain without fear.

    I would say that it would be nicer for Apple to put little red plastic markers over new phone jacks and connectors, with a warning.
     
  23. petermcphee macrumors 6502a

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    Seems reasonable to me.


    You'd better not argue with this one. HE HAS OVER 30 YEARS IN THE COMPUTER INDUSTRY!:eek:
     

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