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I tried the regular S7 for a few months while I waited for the iPhone 7 to come out as I fancied a change and got a good deal. I prefer my iPhone 7 because I always have preferred iOS to Android but I do miss the screen of the S7.
 
I think the whole, 'why would you want wireless charging' thing is a bit like the 5.5" screens. People laughing at it and then as soon as Apple brings it out it will be the best thing since sliced bread.

Same with amoled screen when Apple bring it to the phones.

Charging an iP7 with an iPad charger at 1% per minute is faster charging, it is certainly not fast charging. Charging a 3000+mAh battery 0-100% in under an hour is fast charging.
 
There is a lot more things you should be worried more than just wireless charging.
Oh I am, but why add that to the mix too.
It's super-slow, bad for battery health to be constantly topping them up, and wholly unnecessary. Throw in the possible/probable longterm health implications and I see zero benefit whatsoever. It's just another gimmicky new feature that people seem to go wild for.

*I'm not really talking about health implications of those wireless charging mats, more the rumoured Apple version and the 'future' of wireless charging whereby there will be communal charging hubs in many places that automatically top up phones within a certain distance. Those charging systems will be chucking out EMF.
 
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I think it's kinda arrogant to dismiss out of hand those things you can't possibly be sure of....

I can't dismiss out of hand that aliens live among us either. But that doesn't make it true.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. No such experimental evidence has shown that the low level EMF is harmful. Nore that aliens reside among us. Mexicans and Trump not withstanding.

I believe it is the height of arrogance to promote viewpoints that are supported by belief rather than evidence. What you heard someone say that they heard someone else write on the internet is not evidence. Basing one's views on repeatable experimental evidence is in no way arrogant. It is called science.

Claiming EMF is harmful does not require others to prove that it isn't. Rather you have to back up your hypothesis with experimental evidence that I and others can replicate. Again this isn't arrogant, it's how real proof in science works. Making a claim and requiring others to disprove your claim does fall within the tin foil hat group.

I am completely open to altering my understanding based on repeatable experimental evidence. However anecdotal or eye witness testimony is not among what I consider reliable evidence. Therefore I will continue, and council others, to have greater concern for actual data driven potential hazards.
 
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Oh I am, but why add that to the mix too.
It's super-slow, bad for battery health to be constantly topping them up, and wholly unnecessary. Throw in the possible/probable longterm health implications and I see zero benefit whatsoever. It's just another gimmicky new feature that people seem to go wild for.

*I'm not really talking about health implications of those wireless charging mats, more the rumoured Apple version and the 'future' of wireless charging whereby there will be communal charging hubs in many places that automatically top up phones within a certain distance. Those charging systems will be chucking out EMF.

its not bad for battery health. Lithium ion batteries do not have memory. You're stuck in the past when people told you that you should drain your battery often, the only time that you should do that is to recalibrate the percentage gauge.

you are thinking of NiCad batteries, nickel cadmium batteries. those were the ones that stored memory and you should often drain them and fully charge them.

this is an exert from a paper on lithium based batteries.

" The smaller the discharge (low DoD), the longer the battery will last. If at all possible, avoid full discharges and charge the battery more often between uses. Partial discharge on Li-ion is fine. There is no memory and the battery does not need periodic full discharge cycles to prolong life. The exception may be a periodic calibration of the fuel gauge on a smart battery or intelligent device"
 
I think the whole, 'why would you want wireless charging' thing is a bit like the 5.5" screens. People laughing at it and then as soon as Apple brings it out it will be the best thing since sliced bread.

Same with amoled screen when Apple bring it to the phones.

Charging an iP7 with an iPad charger at 1% per minute is faster charging, it is certainly not fast charging. Charging a 3000+mAh battery 0-100% in under an hour is fast charging.
That's why I said it charges faster than the 5 watt iPhone power adapter cube. Never made claim that it is "fast charging" akin to Samsung. However it does improve charging speed for those with current iPhones.
 
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its not bad for battery health. Lithium ion batteries do not have memory. You're stuck in the past when people told you that you should drain your battery often, the only time that you should do that is to recalibrate the percentage gauge.

you are thinking of NiCad batteries, nickel cadmium batteries. those were the ones that stored memory and you should often drain them and fully charge them.

this is an exert from a paper on lithium based batteries.

" The smaller the discharge (low DoD), the longer the battery will last. If at all possible, avoid full discharges and charge the battery more often between uses. Partial discharge on Li-ion is fine. There is no memory and the battery does not need periodic full discharge cycles to prolong life. The exception may be a periodic calibration of the fuel gauge on a smart battery or intelligent device"
They have a finite number of charges before they expire and constantly topping them up isn't the best policy for battery longevity.

If my battery is at 60% and will easily last me until I get home, I don't see the need to wirelessly charge it to 64% whilst I'm somewhere that has wireless charging.
 
I've both, I've everything Apple ( MBP,MBPr, iPads,watch, tv) and the list goes. I'm not trying to gloat but to show that I'm an apple fan boy. Now, I prefer the S7E, for two reasons. Headphone jack and battery life is phenomenal. Don't like the actual edge on the screen due to touching by my palms when holding a certain way cause weird issues.

I like the iPhone 7+ but it's not an upgrade from my old 6s and the lack of a headphone jack is irritating. I've had weird issues with iOS as well, but nevertheless its tolerable.

Definitely worried if the next iPhone doesn't receive a headphone jack ; then I will be force to switch to a manufacturer that still has a headphone jack.

I admire you're taking a stand (I frequently charge and use the 3.5mm jack), but agree with the other poster...the audio jack ain't coming back, barring utter buyer rejection of the ip7/+ which doesn't seem to be happening.

I'm fine with using my 6s for many years if I need to, but you will have to adapt I'm afraid. Maybe not right now, but you will.
 
They have a finite number of charges before they expire and constantly topping them up isn't the best policy for battery longevity.

If my battery is at 60% and will easily last me until I get home, I don't see the need to wirelessly charge it to 64% whilst I'm somewhere that has wireless charging.

whatever you think makes you happy then good for you. you're wrong on the topping off thing for battery longevity though. it doesnt make a difference.

but hey, if you want to believe it then yay for you.
 
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They have a finite number of charges before they expire and constantly topping them up isn't the best policy for battery longevity.

If my battery is at 60% and will easily last me until I get home, I don't see the need to wirelessly charge it to 64% whilst I'm somewhere that has wireless charging.

Am I right in thinking that you think that charging from say 50-100% counts as 1 charge cycle? If you think that then you are wrong. Two 50-100% charges count as 1 cycle as would 10 charges from 90-100%

Personally I let my phone run out of power once every month, as it happens I just do it on the 1st of every month.
 
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They have a finite number of charges before they expire and constantly topping them up isn't the best policy for battery longevity.

If my battery is at 60% and will easily last me until I get home, I don't see the need to wirelessly charge it to 64% whilst I'm somewhere that has wireless charging.

They don't actually expire. Each time you cycle the chemical process 100% you reduce the ability of the battery to retain the same level of charge. Doing about 400-500 complete (100%) recharges will reduce the battery capacity to approximately 80% of it's original capacity. Certainly not expired, just means it will last only 8 hours instead of original 10 hours.

It should also be understood that recharging 20% five times is equivalent to recharging 100%. So you have 2,500 20% recharges to arrive at the same 80% capacity. At 100 % charge the charging circuit in the iPhone will cycle on and off with a trickle charge that is very low wattage and will not appreciably degrade the battery. Therefore leaving it plugged in or charging to 100% repeatedly is in no way harmful to the battery.

Apple has done a great job, as have other manufacturers, in providing a smart charging chip. Above 80% the allowable wattage going to the battery for charge function is steadily reduced until only trickle maintenance charge at 100%. The charging circuits and reported percentages are designed to keep the battery in your phone at safe, non harmful voltage levels. Zero percentage is not the same as taking the battery to zero volts, which would damage it. Nore does the charging circuit allow over voltage at 100%.

With all this said, you can promote the long term battery capacity by keeping the charge level in the ideal sweet spot for LI Ion battery life. Never let it fall below 40% and never charge above 80%. Of course you will have to carry around your power adapter and cable everywhere you go. Charging numerous times a day. This will gain the third owner of your phone a great battery eight years down the road. I'm sure the next owners of your phone will thank you.

Or you can not obsess over your phone and battery, use it and charge it any way you please because Apple has made it user idiot proof. And after one, two or three years get the next new phone with fresh battery.

If anyone is interested in more details about Li Ion battery chemistry and use, Battery University has many articles.
 
its not bad for battery health. Lithium ion batteries do not have memory. You're stuck in the past when people told you that you should drain your battery often, the only time that you should do that is to recalibrate the percentage gauge.

you are thinking of NiCad batteries, nickel cadmium batteries. those were the ones that stored memory and you should often drain them and fully charge them.

this is an exert from a paper on lithium based batteries.

" The smaller the discharge (low DoD), the longer the battery will last. If at all possible, avoid full discharges and charge the battery more often between uses. Partial discharge on Li-ion is fine. There is no memory and the battery does not need periodic full discharge cycles to prolong life. The exception may be a periodic calibration of the fuel gauge on a smart battery or intelligent device"
Your absolutely right been told this loads of times
 
I can't dismiss out of hand that aliens live among us either. But that doesn't make it true.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. No such experimental evidence has shown that the low level EMF is harmful. Nore that aliens reside among us. Mexicans and Trump not withstanding.

I believe it is the height of arrogance to promote viewpoints that are supported by belief rather than evidence. What you heard someone say that they heard someone else write on the internet is not evidence. Basing one's views on repeatable experimental evidence is in no way arrogant. It is called science.

Claiming EMF is harmful does not require others to prove that it isn't. Rather you have to back up your hypothesis with experimental evidence that I and others can replicate. Again this isn't arrogant, it's how real proof in science works. Making a claim and requiring others to disprove your claim does fall within the tin foil hat group.

I am completely open to altering my understanding based on repeatable experimental evidence. However anecdotal or eye witness testimony is not among what I consider reliable evidence. Therefore I will continue, and council others, to have greater concern for actual data driven potential hazards.
Sorry for derailing the thread discussing health concerns but it has nothing to do with aliens or anything spurious. My HTC 10 came with very firm warnings to not keep the phone within a centimeter of my body (as in a pocket) or even a holster due to SAR. I did some reading and the status is that there are studies indicating there may be cause for concern but the level of danger is inconclusive.

Anecdotally, I am personally concerned because I had to have precancerous tumors removed from my digestive tract this summer. According to the scoping I had done where I tended to rest my cellular data ebabled iPad on my stomach when reading in bed at night (over the course of about 4 years for about an hour per day and for several hours a day when I was recovering from a different illness) it looks like I was cooked raw. I have to take pills to heal and for the pain. It may have nothing at all to do with the iPad. It probably does not. There is a hereditary component, I know that, where my case is unusual in my family is the early age of onset. There are too many factors and I'm a sample size of one at this point so nothing can be proved, only wondered about.

So anyway I have what I consider a normal level of concern and curiosity about the subject of the different kinds of radiation associated with personal tech and I appreciate that @sunking101 was open to discussing the subject with me and I apologize that our discussion led to his being well, a bit scolded. That's on me, not sunking101. I brought it up and I did not mean to do so in an irresponsible way.

Getting back to the topic, I am typing this on an S7Edge and I really appreciate how even a mobile version of the site looks so nice on it and the user interface is pleasant. I always found this site difficult to navigate on my 6SPlus. I think it's because I adjusted the font on my device which also affects how the forum looks on the edge. I enlarged the font on my iPhone too but it doesn't seem to affect the forum display.
 
Whoa what? HTC tells you that you can't keep their shiny new phone in your pocket? lol Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.
I think probably all the cell phones say that in their teeny tiny print. It's just that I happened to actually read the papers that came with the HTC. I usually don't read the papers that come with the phone. I already know not to get them wet or feed them after midnight.

I am not even sure I phones come with any papers.

Anyway I read the HTC ones because their sim tray is a little bit different so I needed to take a peek.
 
Whoa what? HTC tells you that you can't keep their shiny new phone in your pocket? lol Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

That will be why HTC are doing so well:D

I suppose if you are really rich then you could have a servant carry it for you:)
 
That will be why HTC are doing so well:D

I suppose if you are really rich then you could have a servant carry it for you:)
Oooh...minions. Yes, I would love some minions to do my bidding. Especially today. Big chore day. Lots of laundry. Sigh.
 
SAR and how it is reported is a murky business. For all phones the SAR is measured when the phone is a certain distance away from the body...but some phones report the SAR figure when measured further away from the body than others. Also certain markets determine a higher or lower maximum SAR level.

To add further intrigue, the SAR level shoots up when the phone is touching (eg your ear) and when signal strength is low. So in other words we can quite easily - and regularly - exceed the maximum safely permitted soft tissue SAR levels. Scary stuff.

Incidentally, iPhones often brush right up to that safe level even under controlled laboratory conditions whereas Samsung usually pay more heed to lowering the SAR levels of their phones.

There's no need to accept the blame for bringing the health angle into this thread Grumpy mum! I'm more than happy to discuss this stuff as it does worry me. Sorry to hear about your health woes too, I hope all is well.
 
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