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Switcher seriously considering switching BACK ...

Hey MacRumorites, that's more like it. I thought you'd all gone soft on us but you picked up the tempo on the second page.

Notdenizen - you having fun yet? After a slow start they're into the second stage ignition already - flamers flaming other flamers for the substandard quality of the original flame...

While they go on - have you tried one of the other mouse or software suggestions yet?

MPW: I'm typing today on IE on my G3 9.2.1 and boy does the MR site performance s@&%! Every day I wait for my Mini 1.42 seems to get longer and loonnggeerr.

Thanks
Trevor
CanadaRAM.com
 
dogsbody said:
Well, I just read through this thread for a similar reason to some of you may have done in the first place - I was worried about someone who had finally switched to Mac from Windows/Linux (big win there - getting a Linux user to switch over to Mac) having a problem that made him want to go back to 'the other side'.

Ok, it was a problem with his Logitech mouse, and the first few comments were helpful and consiliatory. You can empathise with the poor guy, having to spend ages on a brand new (and probably very exciting) toy to get his mouse to work properly. It is a pain in the arse, and was probably, as the MacBytes community identified, something to do with the manufacturer.

Why, then, do we get the usual ignoramouses (pardon the pun) carping on about how he should get rid of it, sarcastically calling him down for 'daring' to be irritated about having spent 2 hours trying to sort out a problem in an entirely new OS he hadn't used before. For Christ's sake people (and this is topical here, as it is Easter), give the guy a break! We're supposed to be E N C O U R A G I N G people to come over to our platform, not indulging in puerile one-sided slanging matches with them when they hit, what they consider to be, a major problem with their new $2,000 purchase.

I think some apologies are called for here (and I don't mean from me to the pig-ignorant minority).

Dogsbody.
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I disagree. If he is unhappy with his purchase over his non-functioning Logitech mouse he should return it or sell it. He didn't seem interested in many of the solutions offered and is set on retaining the mouse over the $2,000 PowerBook he just purchased. This is backwards thinking in my opinion but he has clearly expressed his issues nonetheless. We SHOULD NOT be encouraging everyone blindly to go MAC! It is NOT a platform for everyone despite what you hear or think. He seemed relatively content with his Linux machine but wanted to give Mac a try. Next time, and this applies to anyone else considering making the switch, he should find a way to test drive the system before making such a purchase. It is a rather large investment in a piece of electronic equipment. We are trying to be true to his actual wants and needs, not encouraging him to use something that makes him miserable.
 
Go Go ldburroughs, macrumors regular...

"If he is unhappy with his purchase over his non-functioning Logitech mouse he should return it or sell it. He didn't seem interested in many of the solutions offered..."

Interesting - one of his posts that appeared prior to your first post stated:-

"Thats a confusing response. My mouse works fine in windows and linux so I was under the impression that it was a software issue. Obviously if replacing the mouse will remove the problem then I'd not even hesitate, but what makes you think its a hardware issue ?...I'll have to look into USB overdrive, and any software logitech provides. Thank you."

Furthermore, you stated that "... and is set on retaining the mouse over the $2,000 PowerBook he just purchased."

...whilst he had already said in another post (again, before your first post - as can be seen by his final comment):-

"Ahh, I was unaware of that. If I'm unable to fix this with 3rd party software I'll try a new mouse. Is there a known-good brand or model that you can recommend ?

And thanks for the quick replies all, not to mention the suprising lack of flames."

Oh, and please spare me the "We SHOULD NOT be encouraging everyone blindly to go MAC! It is NOT a platform for everyone despite what you hear or think.". It's insulting to my intelligence.

Don't worry, ldburroughs, macrumors regular, I forgive you for your lack of empathy towards the unitiated.
 
Some of these replies are really not helpful...the solution is not to switch back, or get a new mouse, or anything like that. The solution is USB Overdrive, period. Because OS X *is*, IS IS IS the problem. Yes, it really is. The default behavior, which is impossible to change within the OS by itself (changing tracking speed is not enough), literally makes my arm hurt after just a minute or two.

Actually, the solution is for Apple to incorporate the option for proper mouse acceleration within the preferences. It would be trivial, and it's shameful that you need to get a $20 shareware program for something like this. I'm glad that some people don't have any problems with things the way they are, but that's just you. My current mouse works fine on all operating systems--including OS 9!--except OS X. Unless I use USB Overdrive, and then it works fine on OS X, but that's an extra step a lot of people wouldn't know about, hence this thread.

--Eric
 
Being a recent switcher myself, I have to say I was somewhat weirded-out by the "feel" of the mouse at first, but I just moved the acceleration slider all the way over and now I used to it and have not problems....came from Windows.

I have a PowerBook and just use the glidepad all the time. I have always hated on glidepads, but frankly, I love the one on the PB. I can't find anything wrong with it. I have an MX1000 at work for my Windows machine and thought about brining it home for the laptop, but frankly, I don't want any 3rd party drivers mucking up my clean system if possible. I just don't see the need for a mouse.

I do agree with the ones saying the title of the post was off-key for the issue. I thought some crazy ass crap was going on, but to be a mouse issue and post that kind of thread title was probaby a bit much.

Anyway, I hope you get your mouse woes figured out and stay on the awesome platform that is OSX.
 
Counterfit said:
This is much deeper than just what mouse. This goes down to how each OS handles pointer acceleration in relation to mouse speed. Mac OS has (for as long as I can think back) moved the pointer slower when you move the mouse slowly, and quicker when you zip it across the pad. Windows (I think) uses a more linear acceleration curve. It's easier to get used to Windows if you've been using Mac OS for a while than vice versa. Luckily for you (and whoever else), there's software to change it if you just can't get used to it. I've heard USB Overdrive can change it, I know Kensington's drivers can, and I would assume Logitech's can as well. I have to say though, if pointer acceleration is enough to make you consider switching back... ;)
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The best summary of this issue that I have seen so far.
 
This is much deeper than just what mouse. This goes down to how each OS handles pointer acceleration in relation to mouse speed. Mac OS has (for as long as I can think back) moved the pointer slower when you move the mouse slowly, and quicker when you zip it across the pad. Windows (I think) uses a more linear acceleration curve. It's easier to get used to Windows if you've been using Mac OS for a while than vice versa. Luckily for you (and whoever else), there's software to change it if you just can't get used to it. I've heard USB Overdrive can change it, I know Kensington's drivers can, and I would assume Logitech's can as well. I have to say though, if pointer acceleration is enough to make you consider switching back...
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You're right about kesington. I have a kesington mouse and it works perfectly.
 
It's surprising how much people complain about mouse acceleration in OS X versus Windows. Let it be known that it's OS X's behavior is not universally disliked. I much prefer the feel of the mouse in OS X than in Windows, and I'm a switcher after using Windows since 3.1 (and DOS before that).
 
mduser63 said:
It's surprising how much people complain about mouse acceleration in OS X versus Windows. Let it be known that it's OS X's behavior is not universally disliked. I much prefer the feel of the mouse in OS X than in Windows, and I'm a switcher after using Windows since 3.1 (and DOS before that).
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Agree, every time I use Windows I'm shocked at how horrible the unaccelerated mouse feels. I'm sure I could get used to anything over time, but I prefer the Mac's default acceleration curve.
 
dogsbody said:
Well, I just read through this thread for a similar reason to some of you may have done in the first place - I was worried about someone who had finally switched to Mac from Windows/Linux (big win there - getting a Linux user to switch over to Mac) having a problem that made him want to go back to 'the other side'.

Ok, it was a problem with his Logitech mouse, and the first few comments were helpful and consiliatory. You can empathise with the poor guy, having to spend ages on a brand new (and probably very exciting) toy to get his mouse to work properly. It is a pain in the arse, and was probably, as the MacBytes community identified, something to do with the manufacturer.

Why, then, do we get the usual ignoramouses (pardon the pun) carping on about how he should get rid of it, sarcastically calling him down for 'daring' to be irritated about having spent 2 hours trying to sort out a problem in an entirely new OS he hadn't used before. For Christ's sake people (and this is topical here, as it is Easter), give the guy a break! We're supposed to be E N C O U R A G I N G people to come over to our platform, not indulging in puerile one-sided slanging matches with them when they hit, what they consider to be, a major problem with their new $2,000 purchase.

I think some apologies are called for here (and I don't mean from me to the pig-ignorant minority).

Dogsbody.
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Well said. Sometimes I think this place is inhabited by Twelve year olds.
 
I have to agree...

jemeinc said:
Well, I've gotta say that I'm usually the first guy to tell people to lighten up on the flaming of peoples questions; sometimes it gets a bit harsh in here when someone posts a logical, albeit obvious question and I just hate that...

BUT, this is odd, to say the least... The logic of replacing a $2000.00 computer because your mouse of choice doesn't live up to your expectations is quite flawed, to put it mildly... Add in the fact that the decision to replace the computer came to mind before attempting to find a suitable mouse, and it's down right bazarre...

I'm really not flaming on you, I just question the logic you're using here...
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This sounds like a lot of cat and mice games to me. If you've been using Linux, why did you spend $2000 for a Mac machine? Isn't the purpose of Linux to be free? Why the switch?

Second, if Linux was your primary OS, (and no offense intended on this one) - your software demands don't seem to be too high or complicated. Linux has some great apps, but errr they are a bit on the non-aesthetically pleasing side:)

You've moved from a primarily open source platform to a commercial one. You get what you pay for, and so while you've kept STABILITY by going from Linux to Mac, you've also added a better range of apps, a better UI, and a heck of a lot better file system organization.

I use a Dell Optical usb mouse on my system and it works flawlessly (scrollbar and all). Welcome to the world of great computing, GO BUY A USB MOUSE!
 
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