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One thing though, its not windows.. its end users fault. Windows is the most used os obviously.. so all effort goes into making viruses and spyware and all the other bs windows falls victom to.. and windows os gets blamed for it. Windows works just fine, and I like being able to update my drivers, especially video.. being able to do that monthly gives me increased performance in games, which is why new drivers are released so frequently.. optimizations and fixes.

Apart from instability, which is totally Windows' fault, I agree. Though Microsoft should have bundled a free antivirus product into Windows earlier...much earlier.
 
It's the end users fault they don't have an education that teaches them how to update drivers? make sure that copy of Norton Antivirus that just hosed their internet connection and email up? Interesting how if a PC crashes it's always blamed on the end user but if a Mac crashes it's the pc of s#@t hardware or OSX? funny how that works. What does Microsoft do to educate their users? Do they offer any training to the general public that buys a computer from Dell, HP, IBM etc..?

Again the fact you are a gamer tells me you have dealt with drivers and you know if you don't update them monthly and maintain your PC it will suffer. People don't want to do that, they want to use their computer for stuff they enjoy. That is the whole point that sells people on a Mac faster than anything else. When people get that millions of people simply want to turn on a computer, use it, turn it off. Rinse and repeat, they don't want to download the latest antivirus, spyware, defrag software, they want to check email, surf the web and chat with friends, family etc..


When Windows does crash it is majority of the time the end user or application. I am sure the same with osx when it crashes. If you had the number of osx users as you do windows users there would be just as many problems coming from the osx camp I am sure.

You dont have to update your drivers if you dont want to, then it will be like osx, same old drivers (or kext or whatever osx calls their drivers) that rarely get optimized/fixed. I can still play any game I want on year+ old drivers, but since I know I can and usually will gain performance updating my drivers I choose to do so every couple months. As far as updating antivirus stuff, its all automated, like windows update. I use nod32.

I am self taught mainly in windows and so far in osx as well (new to osx). osx appears to be a *nix os with apples own front end/gui.
 
Apart from instability, which is totally Windows' fault, I agree. Though Microsoft should have bundled a free antivirus product into Windows earlier...much earlier.

I have no problems with windows stability personally. Windows XP was a great os and rock solid and now that Vista has had time to mature Vista 64 has been great. Windows 95/98/ME on the other hand was crap imo.. Windows 2000 was a very solid OS as well.
 
When Windows does crash it is majority of the time the end user or application. I am sure the same with osx when it crashes. If you had the number of osx users as you do windows users there would be just as many problems coming from the osx camp I am sure.

You dont have to update your drivers if you dont want to, then it will be like osx, same old drivers (or kext or whatever osx calls their drivers) that rarely get optimized/fixed. I can still play any game I want on year+ old drivers, but since I know I can and usually will gain performance updating my drivers I choose to do so every couple months. As far as updating antivirus stuff, its all automated, like windows update. I use nod32.

I am self taught mainly in windows and so far in osx as well (new to osx). osx appears to be a *nix os with apples own front end/gui.

Agreed. I own both Macs and Windows laptops. I have a Compaq N620C purchased in 2004 and it's very solid. I were doing system software development on that laptop and the crashes I got were all caused by my own in-development software. It was not slowing down as lots people assumed. The laptop is still serving my family well. It's just the 802.11B WiFi card is kind of out of date now.
 
@doox00

I too am a long time, self taught Windows/PC user, but the overall topic from the OP of this thread was his excitement to have switched to Mac. My original post was simply to confirm what the buying public finds out after switching. It's simply easier to use.

I realize 100 million copies or whatever of windows will show more issues than 25 million installs of OSX, but wont change the fact Windows is based around a registry.

I don't care what people use, but I can't deny the fact a Mac is more "user friendly" to someone with little or no computer knowledge/skills to troubleshoot, and that is what makes up the bulk of users today. Also why Apple continues to take market share, have a line around the block for every new product launch and typically piss people off that have to wait in line at an Apple store to get help. They are busy as hell, sucks to be in demand I guess. It's by no means perfect, but it's a hellva lot better experience overall (IMO) than what Microsoft is putting out.

Not to mention the two "Steve's" One seems to lead a company and innovate while the other sits around making excuses. :)
 
I recently built a hackintosh and I agree, macs are very nice.. but I could not go without my pc.. I need both worlds.

I would like to get a mac pro eventually, then maybe I would just stick with the mac and dual boot windows when I need it.
nope. you do not have a mac. unless it is made by apple, it is not a macintosh computer. to the op, congrats on your purchase.
 
meh. breaking one of them open shows that the parts are pretty mainstream. not that different from what you'd find in an HP or a thinkpad. though i do wonder why they decided to use Alu for the casing on the MBP and then you hear everyone complaining about the thing getting hot when there is hardly any insulation against the HD. Alu is a pretty good temp conductor...wonder what genius thought up that there wouldn't be any temp issues down the line?

I was more talking about the OS than the hardware.
From what I can tell/hear, the MBP's run fairly cool, the 13" do at least.
 
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