Thanks. That's helpful and good to know. But I'm assuming this doesn't mean I can import step/general activity data from AW (or even Jawbone) into Garmin Connect, right?
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Synchronizing running data with Apple Watch and Garmin
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If anyone is interested ... the above app has now been updated to included uploading the .tcx file to Dropbox, emailing it, or uploading your run stats to Nike Plus.
Makes it a whole lot more useful and will allow you to get your runs recorded with the AW Workout app to Strava, Garmin Connect, etc.
I gave up on Garmin after buying a 235 and Vivosmart HR. Both worked great at first but after Garmin did an update, both devices. After the update both device went crazy if you requested it to display the HR. They would start by showing your real HR, for example 125 during exercise but would then drop down to either 71 or 72 bpm and stay there after that. Really hurts to be exercising like crazy and your HR is on 72.
I returned both Garmins and went right back to my Fitbit Surge and Charge HR. Still the best device I have used so far for fitness.
I returned both Garmins and went right back to my Fitbit Surge and Charge HR. Still the best device I have used so far for fitness.
I got issues with my Fitbit Surge. It never told me a good HR. So I sold it. How i have a apple watch and with my chest-band wahoo tickr X for the HR.
They are not for everyone. I removed my Charge HR for my neighbor to try and we could not get a decent HR on him either. Put it back on me and it was back to working perfectly. You got to try a few different devices to find one that works for you.
Ah ok. Thank for this information.
I thought, this problem can append when you have a hairy forearm or tattoo (I have neither of them).
I imagine in 2 or 3 years, they will find out another way to measure heart rate, who will be more accurate and works for more peoples.
They likely will be using the same method as it is a good one, but the hardware and software will continue to improve.
The technology is pretty good now, it just depends on which sensor that the device is using. I am surprised that you had problems with the Garmin 235, because that uses the Mio sensor, which is considered one of the best. The sensors in the Fitbits are good, but not great, so I would have expected the Garmin to out-perform the Fitbit. I also have a Scosche Rhythm+ HRM, and that sensor is marketed (and reviewed by DCRainmaker) as even better than the Mio. In my experience, the Rhythm+ has performed flawlessly. And, looking at the LED lightshow on the Rhythm+ compared to the AW, it also looks like the Scosche is using more power and doing much more stuff than AW.
I believe that the AW is using a sensor of Apple's own design that has not been in the field nearly as long as the competing sensors. So, I would not be surprised if Apple either updates the sensor with AW2 or licenses a proven technology from one of the market leaders.
I believe that the AW is using a sensor of Apple's own design that has not been in the field nearly as long as the competing sensors. So, I would not be surprised if Apple either updates the sensor with AW2 or licenses a proven technology from one of the market leaders.
Actually .. the Forerunner 235 uses Garmin's in-house sensor (Elevate), the 225 was the only model that used the Mio sensor. I have the 225 and it works flawlessly.
I kind of want a 235 for the other features, but don't want to give up the Mio sensor. I have heard mixed reviews of Garmin's Elevate sensor.
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You are right, I forgot about that. I remember reading reviews that Garmin's 235 sensor is not as trustworthy as the 225 had been.
I am rooting heavily that Garmin figures this out, because I have a 910XT, and I am holding off on the next generation 9__XT watch that I hope will have wrist HR. But, if it is a turd, I will just stick with the 910XT and my Rhythm+ HRM.
Interesting. Reviews I've read have so far seemed to indicate that the 235's sensor is about the same as the 225's which works well for me. I want the 235, but will pay a bit more attention to real-world reviews of the HR sensor. There is a good thread in the running group on Reddit about the 235 today.
I'm the exact opposite. I stopped wearing my Apple Watch (mostly) after getting the Garmin 235. I've had a few niggles with the HRM during certain parts of my runs, but otherwise it's been great for me. If I can get past the added size/weight, I'll likely just bite the bullet and move to the Fenix 3 HR this year.
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This is helpful, too –
http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2015/11/garmin-fr230-fr235-review.html
I will stick with the small FitBit Charge HR. It does all except GPS and do not really need that. The 235 and Fenix are both a bit on the big side for just wearing all the time..
I agree that FitBit (and other like it) are much more discreet for day-to-day use. But I run 40+ miles a week in addition to tracking my normal activity, so GPS – even the Apple Watch's mediocre implementation – is essential for me.
Enjoy. I used to GPS my workouts but after a few years, I no longer saw the point.
If you are referring to non-GPS data, there are a variety of 3rd party apps that accomplish that just fine. RunGap is probably the best.
It isn't possible to get the GPS data recorded by the Series 2 native Workout app to GC, Strava, or any other site. But again, there are many 3rd party apps that use the Series 2 GPS and have paths to get the data to GC using other apps and services like Tapirik. Personally, I use Nike Run Club to record my runs and RunGap to sync them to Strava and Garmin Connect.
It isn't possible to get the GPS data recorded by the Series 2 native Workout app to GC, Strava, or any other site. But again, there are many 3rd party apps that use the Series 2 GPS and have paths to get the data to GC using other apps and services like Tapirik. Personally, I use Nike Run Club to record my runs and RunGap to sync them to Strava and Garmin Connect.
I don't understand why apple won't allow exporting/syncing of data, if they did, I'd buy an apple watch in a heart beat
I use my garmin 910 for actual activities (run/bike/swim) and use the AW for the rest of the daily monitoring. While I get the credit (time wise) on the watch to close that ring, I don't really want the calories/steps transferring, as I have them set to what I want to accomplish outside of my normal daily workouts. I guess it's really all dependent on how you utilize the data.
My coworker just sold me a new inbox Scosche Rhythm+ Heart armband for $20 less than on Amazon. Apple Watch has a hard time with my heart rate when I'm exercising so I'm looking forward to this. I imagine I'll just turn on Workout Power Saving Mode and somehow pair the Scosche to the phone and the watch will hopefully read from it during the runs? (I'll find out tomorrow).
No need to turn on the power saving mode. When paired with a bluetooth HR monitor that device automatically takes priority and the wrist monitor is disabled.
I wish there was a way to disable the wrist monitoring while keeping cellular on. It's worthless for me now that the weather is cold, and I'd prefer to save the battery over a bunch of junk data. If I want HR I'll wear my chest strap.
Apple Watch has no problem reading my heart rate at every time of the day/night except when I'm jogging. It says during the workouts Data Unavailable (not enough heart rate measurements) - and I can see that in the health app data (very spotty). Doesn't bother me - I'm a pretty hairy guy and I sweat like crazy - my fitbit hr couldn't get my heart rate at all - at least Apple Watch does - sporadically while jogging.
Interesting about your note - cold weather and junk data - it is getting really cold here. Just read this : "If you’re exercising in the cold, for example, the skin perfusion in your wrist might be too low for the heart rate sensor to get a reading." - https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207941#heartrate
Thanks for the info!
You may want to try pulling your watch strap a little tighter when you run than you normally wear it. I use a Nike sport band, and I have to wear my band one hole tighter when I run than the rest of the time to get a solid heart rate but it works is great if I do that.
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I think you can turn off the heart rate sensor in the Watch app under Privacy/Heart Rate.
Thanks. I don't want it off all the time - it works fine for measuring resting HR. I'd just like the option to turn it off during an activity. Perhaps it doesn't use enough battery to make a difference either way.