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I'm still trying to figure if this is right for me because my monthly payment for a 6+ is 31 dollars, could someone explain this a little netter for me because I am a little confused.

Your payment would stay $31 a month I believe, you just trade in your current iPhone for the equivalent model of the next model. I'm certain there'll be conflicts between JUMP! and JUMP! On Demand, I'm just not sure how it'd work for those on the former.

People need to keep in mind that the first two versions of JUMP! are 24-month financing plans, with $0-200 down plus tax due at signing, with an option to upgrade 1-2x in one year, and the new JUMP! on Demand is an 18-month lease plan, with $0 down and no tax due at signing, and the remainder due at the end of the lease, should you wish to keep the device.

The $15/month promotion only applies to the 16GB iPhone 6. Should you wish to upgrade to a larger capacity and/or the larger iPhone 6 Plus, the monthly does increase, but there is still no deposit or tax due at signing because it's a lease (I guess you can't pay tax on an item you don't own).

What some people don't realize is that if you choose JUMP! on Demand and go with the $15/month promotion, for example with the 16GB iPhone 6, the remaining balance due at the end of the lease is $164 plus tax. $15 x 18 months = $270 is what you've paid over the course of the lease, and adding the remaining $164 totals only $434, a big discount over paying $649 from Apple. Granted, the value of the iPhone drops over the course of the 18 months, and the device itself is almost a year old (10.25 months to be more exact). The promotion is basically saying, "grab an iPhone now for at least $15/month, and restart your lease with a prioritized upgrade to an iPhone 6s in about two months' time." That's pretty awesome.

If you're on the original JUMP! plans, you're paying $10 per month for that service (granted, it includes the Total Handset Protection), so you have to see what suits your needs best. If you upgrade annually, that's an additional $120 you're paying over the total financing of the iPhone.
 
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Why not just pay off your current one and then migrate your phone to T-Mobile? That way you're not starting over and can get all their other advantages?

No, because my original plan was to switch after I got my NEXT installment down to $100-$200, pay it off then switch. I only made the decision to switch a week ago because T-Mobile said they would pay off your installment. If I wanted to drop $500 cash on my phone now, I would have paid the $850 to buy it outright in the first place back in November/December.
 
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I don't understand this deal at all. What's being offered? If the iPhone 6 is $15 a month, why wouldn't the new one be $15 a month? The phones are probably going to be at the same price points as usual.
From what I understand, if your on JUMP! On Demand,
People need to keep in mind that the first two versions of JUMP! are 24-month financing plans, with $0-200 down plus tax due at signing, with an option to upgrade 1-2x in one year, and the new JUMP! on Demand is an 18-month lease plan, with $0 down and no tax due at signing, and the remainder due at the end of the lease, should you wish to keep the device.

The $15/month promotion only applies to the 16GB iPhone 6. Should you wish to upgrade to a larger capacity and/or the larger iPhone 6 Plus, the monthly does increase, but there is still no deposit or tax due at signing because it's a lease (I guess you can't pay tax on an item you don't own).

What some people don't realize is that if you choose JUMP! on Demand and go with the $15/month promotion, for example with the 16GB iPhone 6, the remaining balance due at the end of the lease is $164 plus tax. $15 x 18 months = $270 is what you've paid over the course of the lease, and adding the remaining $164 totals only $434, a big discount over paying $649 from Apple. Granted, the value of the iPhone drops over the course of the 18 months, and the device itself is almost a year old (10.25 months to be more exact).

If you're on the original JUMP! plans, you're paying $10 per month for that service (granted, it includes the Total Handset Protection), so you have to see what suits your needs best. If you upgrade annually, that's an additional $120 you're paying over the total financing of the iPhone.
Okay, I get it now. Thanks for the clarification!
 
John Legere is the man "...AT&T those greedy bastards, did you see that they increased their fees again with a $15 activation fee for their upgrade program"

lol, gotta love this guy.

When I signed up I had no activation fee! But paid $35 for the SIM card. :)
 
I friggin love T-Mobile, they just gotta improve coverage though, that's the one thing they are lacking. Even in cities where they claim they have excellent coverage it's just not as good as AT&T.
Yeah, when I lived in Oregon, the last bar disappeared as I walked in my door.

It was uncanny... I could see the bars disappear as I rode with my wife in the car home, and we had one bar in the driveway, and bam! as we walked in the door, it disappeared.

This was before they had the wifi calling, so I didn't get to have that as a backup.
 
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I friggin love T-Mobile, they just gotta improve coverage though, that's the one thing they are lacking. Even in cities where they claim they have excellent coverage it's just not as good as AT&T.

Unfortunately this is out of their hands. They don't have the cash to outbid Verizon and att when the FCC does spectrum auctions. T-Mobile literally can't afford a better network. T-Mobile doesn't have the 700mhz spectrum that is good at penetrating walls so that's why they aren't as good in cities or in your house.
 
Which cities are you referring to? They compete rather well in many.

Chicago is a great example. A lot of good coverage, but also a lot of dead spots/holes. The street-level coverage reports are fairly accurate as to where the holes are, too.
 
At what point will Apple rename the possible iPhone line up, 6S and 6S Plus.
Air and Pro comes to mind.

Well if Apple would bring a 4-inch screen and call that piece of its line Retro, I'd bite. Not everyone has claws, sorry, paws, big enough to hang onto those giant economy size phones one-handed. I will hang onto my sturdy 5c for awhile yet. If I need something with more horsepower, I can tether that to the new Ipod touch.

As for T-mobile, though, if they brought it, I'd be on it. Sooner or later some carrier will come over the mountain but for now this 400 square mile dead zone remains a cell-free pristine wilderness. Makes me think a dumbphone would suffice in future. ;)
 
I actually tried T-mobile about 1-2 years ago but back then they didn't have wifi calling on the iPhone; I think having that now would probably solve most coverage issues for me.
 
Very tempting offer. Still, I'm assuming if I want the 64GB models I have to shell out $100 now and $100 when the 6S comes out. Still might be worth it though.

They make you pay $100 instead of financing it into the plan, so it's not like you are out the money so to speak, just not increasing your monthly payment. Plus if we get lucky and Apple increases storage sizes you might be able to go with a 32GB for no money down.

so its free for 15 bucks a month sounds like ATT to me or am i misunderstanding

$15/month is the device lease cost. Apple Music and the other services don't count against data. These are two separate offerings. You cannot get an iPhone 6 for $15/month on AT&T Next, can you?

So how does that price carrying over will work? For example if I still have $300 left on my installment plan will that mean I will only have $300 left over for the 6s? If yes that would be a sweet deal. I hope they can do that with the 6+ because that is what I have.

Your plan restarts every time you upgrade.

I was planning on a switching to T-mobile a week ago. There's always a catch. In this case, T-mobile will happily pay off the installment plan on my ATT NEXT 64GB 6 Plus. However, I'd have to restart paying $850 AGAIN on a new 6 Plus after I trade in my old one. They really aren't doing you any favors. I'm already down to $500 on my current 6 Plus, meaning they get my prestine iPhone 6 Plus for $500 while I will have to give them another $850 for a new Phone.

After figuring out the catch, I decided to wait to until the 6S to switch. If I have to start paying $850 from scratch again, I'm getting a totally new 6S plus and not year-old hardware.

You are not paying $850 again. You are leasing the iPhone for $15 or $19 per month and can upgrade 3 times per year. You never end up paying $850 unless you buy the phone at the end. If you are looking to buy the phone at the end, then leasing (just like with cars) is not the best option for you. I don't think it is fair to call this a catch.

I switched from AT&T at the beginning of this month. I traded in an old iPhone 5, got the iPhone 6+ 64GB, am paying $19 a month or so for it. They paid my ETF. I could have traded in my existing iPhone 6+, but decided to sell that on CL instead for more money. I am going to upgrade to the 6s+ in a couple months, at which point I will trade in this iPhone (only 2-3 months old) and start over. They are doing you favors.

I wonder if this offer will be available in conjunction with any of the offers to switch from another carrier? My wife and I have 128GB Verizon iPhone 6 Pluses on a two year contract with just over a year remaining. Verizon service quality in my area has taken a shocking nosedive and I was already thinking of moving to T-Mobile when the 6S and 6S Plus become available. Will T-Mobile still pay off ETFs?

Yes, I switched from AT&T and they paid my ETF and joined on demand. You can do it now, no reason to wait.

I called just because I didn't want to make assumptions, stick to them, and feel like a fool when I tried to trade-in. The representative I spoke with said device trade-ins are equivalent. So if you have a 128 GB Plus, you get the next model's 128 GB Plus. My only question is for those on JUMP!, can we upgrade to JUMP! On Demand and take advantage of this with our iPhone 6's that were bought with JUMP!?

When I got mine earlier this month, I was told that if the pricing tiers remain the same 16GB/64GB/128GB, then I will have to pay $100 down again if I want the 64GB in September.

I don't understand this deal at all. What's being offered? If the iPhone 6 is $15 a month, why wouldn't the new one be $15 a month? The phones are probably going to be at the same price points as usual.

The $15 a month was a promo. The fine print is that you have to trade in an existing smartphone to join on demand. When you do so, the money from that trade is going toward the device payment plan. They guarantee you will pay no more than $15 a month (if you trade in a crappy one) or you can end up paying less if you trade in something nice like an iPhone 6.

It sounds like they are extending this pricing for customers upgrading in a few months.

The $15/month promotion only applies to the 16GB iPhone 6. Should you wish to upgrade to a larger capacity and/or the larger iPhone 6 Plus, the monthly does increase, but there is still no deposit or tax due at signing because it's a lease (I guess you can't pay tax on an item you don't own).

What some people don't realize is that if you choose JUMP! on Demand and go with the $15/month promotion, for example with the 16GB iPhone 6, the remaining balance due at the end of the lease is $164 plus tax. $15 x 18 months = $270 is what you've paid over the course of the lease, and adding the remaining $164 totals only $434, a big discount over paying $649 from Apple. Granted, the value of the iPhone drops over the course of the 18 months, and the device itself is almost a year old (10.25 months to be more exact).

If you're on the original JUMP! plans, you're paying $10 per month for that service (granted, it includes the Total Handset Protection), so you have to see what suits your needs best. If you upgrade annually, that's an additional $120 you're paying over the total financing of the iPhone.

Not entirely true. If you choose a larger capacity device, your monthly payment does not increase, but rather you have to pay the difference down. I got the iPhone 6+ 64GB and had to put $100 down, instead of my $19 payment being increased to accommodate it.

Also, if people intend to buy the phone after the lease, then this is not the best program for them. It is just like with cars. Do not buy it at the end of the lease. This program is for people that want up to 3 new phones per year with no ownership.
 
If the uncarrier's network was unterrible, I would definitely hop on board

But I also hate when carriers make promises on behalf of Apple. I think Apple should postpone the next iPhone release until spring just to piss off T-Mobz.
 
Apple Music has never counted against my data. This is more for PR than anything else.

You sure about that? Also, given that Apple Music has only been launched a month, it's possible that T-Mobile implemented this change already and simply didn't announce it till now.
 
If the uncarrier's network was unterrible, I would definitely hop on board

But I also hate when carriers make promises on behalf of Apple. I think Apple should postpone the next iPhone release until spring just to piss off T-Mobz.

They're not making promises on behalf of Apple. He specifically said that he's not - he's just saying what T-Mobile will do once the new iPhone comes out.
 
I'm not sure I understand. I currently have an iPhone 5, two generations behind current iPhones, three generations behind the 6s. I'm currently on Verizon but am off contract and am not averse to switching carriers. (I like that T-Mobile offers 10gb of data per line. With Verizon I have 10gb of data shared among several lines. And unmetered audio streaming might be handy.)

I'm thinking I'll get a 6s when it comes out, but am fine using my 5 for the intervening months.

So, does this program matter to me or not?
 
Yes... if anything, he sounds like a fun CEO to work with. I can't imagine our companies CEO using words like "BS" or "Greedy Bas#!%" in any public forum.

What he didn't mention is that the new change start on Aug. 1. He made it sound like it's already in effect.
 
People need to keep in mind that the first two versions of JUMP! are 24-month financing plans, with $0-200 down plus tax due at signing, with an option to upgrade 1-2x in one year, and the new JUMP! on Demand is an 18-month lease plan, with $0 down and no tax due at signing, and the remainder due at the end of the lease, should you wish to keep the device.

The $15/month promotion only applies to the 16GB iPhone 6. Should you wish to upgrade to a larger capacity and/or the larger iPhone 6 Plus, the monthly does increase, but there is still no deposit or tax due at signing because it's a lease (I guess you can't pay tax on an item you don't own).

What some people don't realize is that if you choose JUMP! on Demand and go with the $15/month promotion, for example with the 16GB iPhone 6, the remaining balance due at the end of the lease is $164 plus tax. $15 x 18 months = $270 is what you've paid over the course of the lease, and adding the remaining $164 totals only $434, a big discount over paying $649 from Apple. Granted, the value of the iPhone drops over the course of the 18 months, and the device itself is almost a year old (10.25 months to be more exact). The promotion is basically saying, "grab an iPhone now for at least $15/month, and restart your lease with a prioritized upgrade to an iPhone 6s in about two months' time." That's pretty awesome.

If you're on the original JUMP! plans, you're paying $10 per month for that service (granted, it includes the Total Handset Protection), so you have to see what suits your needs best. If you upgrade annually, that's an additional $120 you're paying over the total financing of the iPhone.

Hi BeyondtheTech, quick questions, where can you find the "16GB iPhone 6, the remaining balance due at the end of the lease is $164 plus tax."? Specifically, where do they say that's the remaining balance? I'm having trouble finding anywhere saying what the remaining balance will be

That sounds like it's a better deal to get the phone through this upgrade jump program and buy it at the end of 18th months? Being able to upgrade to a 6S in September and probably restart the 18 month lease is awesome and if it's discounted 215 dollars, even the more better.

Are they counting the $15 / mo as a discount over the 27.08 that the normal jump charges? And saying you owe us 649-(27.08*18)+tax=161.56.

If the $15 a month payment counted as $15 * 18 instead of 27.08 * 18, then it would be 379 + tax left at signing, but are you saying they are giving a 12 dollar per month discount with this plan essentially giving us a $200 discount when we want to buy the phone? (I don't care to upgrade beyond the 6S, just like the discounted phone).
 
Come to UK and use 3 unlimited Data for $24 per month plus ability to use data in other countries without charge up to 10Gb
 
Not entirely true. If you choose a larger capacity device, your monthly payment does not increase, but rather you have to pay the difference down. I got the iPhone 6+ 64GB and had to put $100 down, instead of my $19 payment being increased to accommodate it.

Also, if people intend to buy the phone after the lease, then this is not the best program for them. It is just like with cars. Do not buy it at the end of the lease. This program is for people that want up to 3 new phones per year with no ownership.

Maybe the store reps told me differently, but with the standard JUMP! financing, you had to pay additional up front if you wanted a larger capacity or the 6 Plus and keep the monthly the same, and with the JUMP! on Demand leasing you did not have to pay anything additional up front, and the monthly would be higher.

To your second paragraph at leasing might not be the best program, consider this:

A 24-month EIP of a 16GB iPhone 6 is $27.08 per month for 24 months, with $0 down and tax due at signing, on approved credit (OAC). Total would be $649.92 (excluding tax) after all payments satisfied [source].

However, the same iPhone with JUMP! on Demand is $15 per month for 18 months, with $0 down and no tax due at signing, on approved credit (OAC). Final payment of $164 required to keep the device [source]. Total would be $434 (excluding tax) after all payments satisfied. That's much less than financing.
 
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Maybe the store reps told me differently, but with the standard JUMP! financing, you had to pay additional up front if you wanted a larger capacity or the 6 Plus and keep the monthly the same, and with the JUMP! on Demand leasing you did not have to pay anything additional up front, and the monthly would be higher.

To your second paragraph at leasing might not be the best program, consider this:

A 24-month EIP of a 16GB iPhone 6 is $27.08 per month for 24 months, with $0 down and tax due at signing, on approved credit (OAC). Total would be $649.92 (excluding tax) after all payments satisfied [source].

However, the same iPhone with JUMP! on Demand is $15 per month for 18 months, with $0 down and no tax due at signing, on approved credit (OAC). Final payment of $164 required to keep the device [source]. Total would be $434 (excluding tax) after all payments satisfied. That's much less than financing.

There was the source I was looking for, yes that is a sweet deal!
 
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I'm not sure I understand. I currently have an iPhone 5, two generations behind current iPhones, three generations behind the 6s. I'm currently on Verizon but am off contract and am not averse to switching carriers. (I like that T-Mobile offers 10gb of data per line. With Verizon I have 10gb of data shared among several lines. And unmetered audio streaming might be handy.)

I'm thinking I'll get a 6s when it comes out, but am fine using my 5 for the intervening months.

So, does this program matter to me or not?

This program is great if you want the latest iPhone every year and have no intention on owning the device. Trade in your iPhone 5 today. Get the iPhone 6 or 6+ now, upgrade to the iPhone 6s or 6s+ in a couple months, and upgrade to the latest iPhone every year. You will no longer own an iPhone but always have the latest device and don't pay any more per month to do it.

What he didn't mention is that the new change start on Aug. 1. He made it sound like it's already in effect.

So? Whether it starts today or in 3 days, what difference does it make? Especially since it is going into effect right before they enforce AT&T Next on 3rd party resellers (like Apple) and right before the next iPhone comes out. Basically, they know that tons of AT&T customers will be upgrading their phones in a couple months and will be forced onto AT&T Next and will be forced into paying $15 fees. They know exactly what they are doing.

That sounds like it's a better deal to get the phone through this upgrade jump program and buy it at the end of 18th months? Being able to upgrade to a 6S in September and probably restart the 18 month lease is awesome and if it's discounted 215 dollars, even the more better.

If you are looking to buy the phone then this program is not the best option. This is designed for people that want to lease a phone, not own it. Yes, there are buy out options, but if you want to upgrade to the new iPhone then you have to trade this one in to do so. And when you do, your lease payment resets.
 
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