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Yeah agreed. There is theoretically room for abuse, but it hasn't happened yet and I see no indication that they are headed in a bad way. According to T-Mobile, they are covering 95% of streamed music. That doesn't sound like they are playing favorites. Look at the list of eligible services--it's huge. And the music services do not pay for the privilege--the big players can't quash the competition with their bank accounts. That said, it's a good thing to keep an eye on to see how it develops over time.

And you can request they add a service by emailing "MusicFreedom @ T-Mobile . com" so they can add the IP address of the stream to their list.

While they don't play favorites, they do offer Rhapsody with some of there plans, which might discourage customers from paying for an alternative music service.
 
I am on T-Mobile but I have to say.. T-mobile are the new undisputed kings of BS when it comes to making you think you are getting a phone for free.

Yes, someone has to pay for the phone but why twist terms and words to make the young and the gullible think they are getting a "free" phone?

That said, i love my $30 plan!
Where do you see them saying the phones are ever free? They always say you are either buying or leasing them in everything I have seen.
 
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Please come to Canada! We are getting screwed up here.
This really is purely a US-American thing from T-Mobile.
Unless T-Mobile USA itself would put up a subsidy in Canada it doesn't mean anything. (which I highly doubt)

Look at T-Mobile in other parts of the world.
In Germany Deutsche Telekom, the parent company of T-Mobile USA, we can only dream about a German equivalent to the bold steps taken by T-Mo US.

Over here Deutsche Telekom is exactly what T-Mo US is fighting against.

Lovely, eh?

However, I agree, since the markets are physically and language-wise much closer to each other (USA and Canada that is) I assume they couldn't get away with it there, also they'd be the underdog in Canada's market, something that Deutsche Telekom certainly isn't.

PS: Not a fan of the merger of E-Plus (BASE) and O2.
Now Germany has 3 super big mobile networks instead of 2 super big and 2 medium ones.
Don't think it's gonna help the market, it's in a way what the US-American FTC turnt down, just that two small guys joined instead of the prospected merger of AT&T - a big guy - Goliath so to speak - with T-Mobile - an emerging David who really knows to put up a good show and give the big guys a run for their money in a way.

Glassed Silver:mac
 
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The $15 a month was a promo. The fine print is that you have to trade in an existing smartphone to join on demand.
If your current phone is too damaged to trade in (severely cracked screen in my case) you can't take advantage of this new iPhone deal?
 
Are you sure you're on JUMP! on Demand? I'm doing the math with your numbers:

$29.85 x 18 payments = $537.30.
Add the original $100 down...
Plus $212.70 end-of-lease purchase...
And all that equals $850, same as financing.

Yes, and I just called 611 to confirm that I am. They walked me through the numbers, since the lease agreement looks odd because of the credit from device trade-in and initial down payment.

The total lease amount is $637.29 for the 6+ 64GB. I had to pay $99.99 down, and finance the $537.30 over 18 equal lease payments of $29.85 (actually $17.85 with device credit/promo). So in the end, the phone is $637.29 now, plus $212.70 if I want to buy it at the end, or $849.99 total, which is the same as the purchase price today.

So in that regard, yes you do not pay more for the device out of pocket in the end, but considering the time value of money, you are paying more than buying it at full price today. So to those that want to own the phone at the end, this is still more costly to do it in the long run.
 
If your current phone is too damaged to trade in (severely cracked screen in my case) you can't take advantage of this new iPhone deal?

Correct. The screen cannot be cracked, the phone must power on and off, and there must be no water damage. Those are the 3 criteria. It can be scratched and dented.
 
Well if Apple would bring a 4-inch screen and call that piece of its line Retro, I'd bite. Not everyone has claws, sorry, paws, big enough to hang onto those giant economy size phones one-handed. I will hang onto my sturdy 5c for awhile yet. If I need something with more horsepower, I can tether that to the new Ipod touch.

As for T-mobile, though, if they brought it, I'd be on it. Sooner or later some carrier will come over the mountain but for now this 400 square mile dead zone remains a cell-free pristine wilderness. Makes me think a dumbphone would suffice in future. ;)

iPhone 6 is pretty snug fit to be fair, 0.7" really isn't that big.
Each to their own though, some people do have baby hands. :D
 
If your current phone is too damaged to trade in (severely cracked screen in my case) you can't take advantage of this new iPhone deal?

But, you can trade in ANY smartphone. So you can buy a used crappy iPhone 4 or 3GS or something and trade that in and still get the promo...
 
There was the source I was looking for, yes that is a sweet deal!
Looks like the price comes out to the same, the $164 is a bit misleading unless it is only $164.

Some Fine print:

With Jump! On Demand, you make payments on your phone for 18 months. After 18 months, you can simply turn in your phone with nothing more to pay, or upgrade to your next new phone and start a new plan, or make a final payment and keep your phone. If you keep your phone and make the final payment, the total of your payments will equal the retail price of the phone. In addition, customers can pay off their JUMP! On Demand plan at any time by paying the remaining payments in advance, and keep their phone without penalty.

JUMP! On Demand is available in participating T-Mobile stores nationwide starting June 28th. For more information, visit www.t-mobile.com/jumpondemand. And follow T-Mobile CEO John Legere on Twitter (www.twitter.com/JohnLegere) to see how he’s planning to surprise his followers and celebrate the launch of JUMP! On Demand with them.

$0 down at signing + $15/mo for 18 mo. lease O.A.C. If you cancel wireless service, remaining lease payments become due. Device must be returned in good condition or purchase option exercised ($164 for iPhone 6 offer) at cancellation or after 18 mos. Qual’g service, eligible device trade-in & upgrade req’d. No device security deposit. Monthly taxes additional.
 
Apple Music has never counted against my data. This is more for PR than anything else.

Crazy isn't it? I mean why would they tell people something YOU already knew? Stupid. Advertising who comes up with this stuff?
 
I friggin love T-Mobile, they just gotta improve coverage though, that's the one thing they are lacking. Even in cities where they claim they have excellent coverage it's just not as good as AT&T.

Which cities are you referring to? They compete rather well in many.

I'd sure love to hear that too, because where I'm sitting right now for lunch T-Mobile is three times faster and Verizon is four times faster than AT&T. In fact AT&T started lagging, taking ~20 seconds just to change to page 2 of this thread, so I tethered my iPad to T-Mobile.
 
I'm sure AT&T will be later, but for right now it's the other three carriers that are making the big improvements around here.

Don't get T-Mobile if you live in the middle of the Dakotas, but it's great in lots of places.
 
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Where do you see them saying the phones are ever free? They always say you are either buying or leasing them in everything I have seen.

"T-Mobile Adds Apple Music to Music Freedom, Offers Free 'iPhone 6s' Upgrade With iPhone 6 Trade-In"

I can assure you it will not be free.

Edit: sorry about the big bold letter.. this was a copy paste and I don't know how to make the font smaller.
 
I actually tried T-mobile about 1-2 years ago but back then they didn't have wifi calling on the iPhone; I think having that now would probably solve most coverage issues for me.
You can't even compare 6 mos ago, let alone 2 years ago, when it comes to wireless carriers! In the last 6 months where I live in Southern California, T-Mobile has doubled their performance and Sprint and Verizon have more than doubled their speeds. Sprints' coverage (which is still too weak) is being vastly improved here as we speak.
 
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"T-Mobile Adds Apple Music to Music Freedom, Offers Free 'iPhone 6s' Upgrade With iPhone 6 Trade-In"

I can assure you it will not be free.

Edit: sorry about the big bold letter.. this was a copy paste and I don't know how to make the font smaller
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Everyone knows that free phone = no down payment. If you don't realize that you are paying for the device either via a subsidy or equipment payment plan, then there is no hope for you.
 
From the quoted that I have seen it is an alright deal then. I rather sell the iphone 6 then take that money to pay for the 6s with installment plan. That would be cheaper instead of just giving tmobile your iphone 6 for free unless you have own them a lot on the current installment plan.
 
From the quoted that I have seen it is an alright deal then. I rather sell the iphone 6 then take that money to pay for the 6s with installment plan. That would be cheaper instead of just giving tmobile your iphone 6 for free unless you have own them a lot on the current installment plan.
You could do that. Although right now, for a switcher with an AT&T iPhone 6, it's a better deal to sell your phone, buy a used old smartphone for like $50 on eBay and trade THAT in for the $15/month Jump On Demand deal.
 
Right now, for a switcher with an AT&T iPhone 6, it's a better deal to sell your phone, buy a used old smartphone for like $50 on eBay and trade THAT in for the $15/month Jump On Demand deal.
Is it better to do this now, get another iPhone 6 for a couple of months until it can be traded in for a 6s, or is it cheaper to just wait for the 6s to be out and join T-Mobile then?
 
So is it safe to assume they'll be offering the same deal for the 6+ I'm paying $19/month for on Jump on Demand?
 
yet T-Mobile sucks donkey d in its home country. so unfair

"now u can get another 200 mb of data and unlimited TEXT"
 
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