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Verizon still uses the CDMA thing where your phone number is tied to the device or do they have SIM chips now like the rest?
 
Verizon still uses the CDMA thing where your phone number is tied to the device or do they have SIM chips now like the rest?

VZW use SIM cards now. Their phones can fall back on CDMA while LTE is up on almost all their network. BTW VZW has better variant of iPhone 7 which has Qualcomm modem and can work with At&t/T-mobile. At&t/T-mobile Intel modem iPhone 7 cannot work with VZW. There was research on the internet mentioned here that Intel version has less speed and worse reception compare to Qualcomm one.
The only thing VZW doesn't have is a call on multiple devices. They going to have it with the new iOS update.
 
Unlike today's Apple, T-Mobile has a CEO who values not following the status quo.

If that was true the iPhone 7 would have a headphone jack.

Moving to a new programming language, moving into health with ResearchKit, getting involved in charitable matching, a new filesystem APFS, moving into cross platform mobile apps/services with Apple Music.

Just off the top of my head, there's plenty more no doubt.
 
P.S. One of my family members got a phone call from 911 couple days ago and was asked if we need some help on T-mobile line. The phone was locked and we were runing in gym that time. Today I found that T-mobile has a huge problem with 911 in addition to their poor billing system:
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/5sx4tk/911_glitch_in_dallas_for_tmobile_users/

- Am I going to switch back to Att? -No. Att wants so much. I take my chance with T-mobile I think they fix the BS-s they have.

- Can I recommend T-mobile to my friends now ? -No
 
"When you tell someone something, It depends on what part of the country your standing is as to just how dumb you are"

That's an old movie line that sums up this thread. I have Verizon because of where I travel consistently and calls are priority vs data. If I never left Boston, T mobile would be the way to go because of the coverage and price.
 
Hey I'm in Maine so we're all about the rural :)
I get reception everywhere I need and if go outside of my area I can borrow my parents straightalk phone
And hell if I was really worried about it, it'd still be cheaper for me to get a straight talk $10 a month phone
and keep the deals on T mobile than the pay the extra on verizon ;)
Because Northern Arizona is indicative of the whole country.
and your basement is? ;)
 
No... just no.

Visit Northern Arizona and you will see why Verizon is better.

Visit Arrowhed Mall area in Glendale AZ and watch your download speed on Verizon's LTE network drop to less than 1Mbps using Speedtest app. T-Mobile will be at 14Mbps+ - Verizon's speeds are horrible in the Phoenix Metro Area because the network is overcrowded. I was with Verizon for several years until the speeds dropped below 3G (even though my phone showed LTE). T-Mobile Rocks in AZ!
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LTE availability does not equal coverage - T-Mobile still can't touch Verizon in actual coverage. The title and usage of the word "coverage" is a bit misleading...

Yes "very misleading". I could have Verizon LTE Coverage in the Phoenix area but experience download speeds of less than 1Mbps! Coverage doesn't work. We need "real life" experiences. Because 50+ percent of people in the Phoenix area use Verizon their network is overloaded! T-Mobile Rocks in Phoenix.
 
This article is so misleading its ridiculous. T-mobile's LTE speeds does you NO GOOD if you can't get signal!

The only real national carriers that exist today are AT&T and Verizon. Thats the truth. Sure, metro areas may have great service with Sprint or T-mobile, but over half the US population doesn't live in those areas.

When articles like this are written it really is silly they choose to leave out valuable and logical information.

FWIW, well over half of the US population lives in metro/urban areas, in fact I think it's over 80%
 
You're not understanding it. The key word is deprioritized. The simple act of being deprioritized doesn't mean you will be slowed down or throttled. For example, I'm at around 60GB used this billing period, yet speed tests across the board are the same as if I had used 0 bytes. Obviously, that's not being throttled, but I'm still subject to being deprioritized where absolutely necessary. If you polled everyone who exceeded 28GB, I bet most don't see any speed reductions.
I'm curious, do you live in a rural area or a big city?

Edit: Your profile says San Antonio, TX, which has a population density of 3500/sqmi. Compare this to 8400 for LA, 12,000 for Chicago or 27,000 for NYC, and you can see how you're more likely to be deprioritized, and therefore experience lower speeds, in many larger cities. There are only so many cell towers you can fit into a given area.
 
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Close enough in my opinion. I was with Verizon for over 10 years. I have been with T-Mobile since November 2016. The coverage is almost identical but the price with T-Mobile is far and away better! I am paying about 40% less with T-Mobile compared with Verizon. I dont get why people say Verizon is so great. I dropped calls with Verizon and I drop about the same amount of calls with T-Mobile, but pay less for the service. I also travel fairly extensively along the Northeast Corridor and over to the Midwest parts of the United States. I would literally have to be paid to go back to Verizon. The difference in service is not worth steep difference in price, especially with multiple lines of service. I pay for 4 lines with T-Mobile what I was paying for 2 lines with Verizon. Of course everyone will vote with their wallet, but for me T-Mobile is best combination of service and price of all the major US carriers.
 
Visit Arrowhed Mall area in Glendale AZ and watch your download speed on Verizon's LTE network drop to less than 1Mbps using Speedtest app. T-Mobile will be at 14Mbps+ - Verizon's speeds are horrible in the Phoenix Metro Area because the network is overcrowded. I was with Verizon for several years until the speeds dropped below 3G (even though my phone showed LTE). T-Mobile Rocks in AZ!
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Yes "very misleading". I could have Verizon LTE Coverage in the Phoenix area but experience download speeds of less than 1Mbps! Coverage doesn't work. We need "real life" experiences. Because 50+ percent of people in the Phoenix area use Verizon their network is overloaded! T-Mobile Rocks in Phoenix.
Then on the other hand, with VZW, I was recently in the oculus mall(http://www.nydailynews.com/news/oculus-structure-wtc-hub-gallery-1.2263405) outside of the apple store and I got 80 down and about 30 up. (don't remember exactly, it's on my phone though).

Have taken several trips from San Diego to Phoenix and LA to Phoenix via 8/10 and I wonder if tmobile has any service most of the way.
 
VZW use SIM cards now. Their phones can fall back on CDMA while LTE is up on almost all their network. BTW VZW has better variant of iPhone 7 which has Qualcomm modem and can work with At&t/T-mobile. At&t/T-mobile Intel modem iPhone 7 cannot work with VZW. There was research on the internet mentioned here that Intel version has less speed and worse reception compare to Qualcomm one.
The only thing VZW doesn't have is a call on multiple devices. They going to have it with the new iOS update.

If Verizon has a SIM card now, why do they have a different iphone7 variant? Shouldn't it be just like every other iphone?
 
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If Verizon has a SIM card now, why do they have a different iphone7 variant? Shouldn't it be just like every other iphone?

VZW uses CDMA(voice and data)+ LTE(data+VoLTE for voice) , with T-mobile we have GSM(voice and data)+HSPDA(voice and data)+LTE(data +voLTE for voice) , with At&t we have now HSDPA(voice and data)+ LTE(VoLTE for voice). At&t just shutdown their GSM.

VZW mainly use LTE, but they can fall back on CDMA in some rural areas. The same like T-mobile uses LTE, but they can fallback on GSM (you see E or GPRS on your phone). VZW uses SIM cards for LTE device identification(and also CDMA now). All VZW devices are SIM unlocked, other words if you insert any other SIM in VZW phone it should work if it supports the provider bands.

From this year Apple decided to go with Intel modems in their phones (cheaper). Qualcomm has a patient for CDMA modems and Intel has to pay them. That's why Apple decided to leave Qualcomm modems for VZW and Sprint only.

Qualcomm variant of iPhone= Intel variant + support of CDMA. If you buy SIM unlock phone from Apple you get Qualcomm model. I have a Qualcomm model iPhone 7+ SIM unlocked and use it on T-mobile with zero problem. I compared it 10+ times with my friends Intel model in low-mid reception zones and I always have faster data speed and better reception. Qualcomm variant of iPhone is better than Intel one. There also were couple of comparisons mentioned here.

If VZW has the same UDP plan I have with T-mobile and I have to pay 50 percent more I switch yesterday.
 
I'm curious, do you live in a rural area or a big city?

Edit: Your profile says San Antonio, TX, which has a population density of 3500/sqmi. Compare this to 8400 for LA, 12,000 for Chicago or 27,000 for NYC, and you can see how you're more likely to be deprioritized, and therefore experience lower speeds, in many larger cities. There are only so many cell towers you can fit into a given area.

Cell density is noticeably greater in the two example cities that you listed. You'll read many success stories from people -- especially in NYC -- that benefit T-Mobile. So, you may not necessarily be more likely to be deprioritized, even in those areas, especially with sector splitting and other tricks. The original point was that just because you hit 28GB doesn't mean you'll be throttled or deprioritized.

I'm sorry but I don't trust them either :).

I trust their crowd-sourced coverage map (I also like Sensorly and CellMapper) while reading very little into their reports.

T-Mobile CEO is draining the company and setting it up for sale. DT doesn't want T-Mobile anymore. There business model isn't sustainable

Are you sure? Legere flies to DT's HQ regularly and the relationship is seemingly strong, but I'm sure there's a lot that we don't know about.
 
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It'll be interesting to see what the final results are from the 600 spectrum auction. I, for one, am glad to be a T-Mobile customer even though they still don't have the same coverage as VZW. I'm glad I'm not paying through the nose to have service where I live
I travel everywhere, including Southern Ontario. Again, it's not as good as VZW coverage, but I don't have to pay extra when I go to Canada to use my T-Mobile service.

On Verizon's new plans Canada and Mexico roaming is included just to let you know
 
Hmm this thread now has me 2nd guessing about me jumping ship from att to T-Mobile for there 3 lines of unlimited everything plus tethering for $100 including tax.
 
T-Mobile coverage

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Verizon coverage

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I'm not sure how they think it's even remotely similar?
 
T-Mobile coverage

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Verizon coverage

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I'm not sure how they think it's even remotely similar?
I think what they meant was that in areas where service is provided, availability and speed are neck and neck.

Verizon obviously has bettter coverage.
 
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