T-Mobile Announces Internet TV Service Coming in 2018

[dampfnudel]

There's more to NY than NYC upstate T-Mo isn't all that great I'm on Project Fi for that exact reason. I used to use Ting which up here uses T-Mo and the coverage was so spotty that I'd loose it 300 yards in any direction from my office. Now with Fi I just bounce to whatever carrier works in the area I'm in.

Yeah, I “forget” sometimes that there’s more to New York State than the city I was born in. Just for the record, I had good coverage in Westchester, Rockland, Putnam and Dutchess counties with T-Mo while visiting a few times, but I guess you live beyond the lower Hudson Valley.

 

[harriska2]

That makes absolutely no sense. So people would give up netfilx, hulu, etc, because the isp's raised their prices? That's just silly. People will pay the higher costs.

Yes, I am one of those people. Some of us won’t put up with being jerked around by comcast, especially if they tell me what I can/can’t use my bandwith for. When comcast took away basic cable with HD channels, we cancelled and our internet cost went up. I’m stuck with comcast, dsl (7 mb whatever), or cell internet that limits downloads to 2 gb a month and requires microwave line-of-sight. Yeah, we’ll just cancel, keep over the air, and rent dvds from netflix. We each still have some verizon data but the whole house is new to smartphones so those can go, too. Screw em.

 

[JaniceAndRustyWilliams]

Right now I'm paying T-Mobile exactly $70.00 per month for unlimited service, including mobile hotspot, inclusive of all taxes and fees. Previously, I wan paying AT&T upwards of $100 per month, in addition to a slurry of hidden and variable taxes and fees, and mobile hotspot wasn't allowed.

"Free" might be a BS marketing term, but the fact remains that T-Mobile is offering better service, at dramatically lower costs than their competitors.

There are deals on rateplans all the time. Right now there's the "Sprint Free Unlimited" rateplan; which if you bring a compatible phone, the service is free. (Well, technically, it's $4 per month in taxes). The "Free Unlimited" plan includes roaming on Verizon, and 10GB of hotspot too.

Once that promo is up, we're going to switch to Xfinity Mobile. With Xfinity/Comcast, we'll get Verizon coverage and service, and pay $12 per gig.

We also have Cricket (Primary Home plan) which is AT&T coverage and service. On Cricket, we have a total of 5 lines for $100/month. Originally, when we signed up, it was only 2GB of data, but over the past two years, it's increased to 5GB. When we signed up with Cricket, they also had a promo going on where bringing your own phone was worth a $150 bill credit. So with five lines, it was basically seven months of service for free.



Don't get me wrong, T-Mobile is OK. We had them for 10 years. However, 5 lines with them was over $250/month and today, there are better deals out there if you don't need jump insurance or a new phone every time there's a full moon outside.

 

[msp3]

>Actual advanced cell phone markets have had free to air HDTV broadcast standards for a decade by now accessible to everyone and adopted by everyone: 1seg, as used in Japan and Brazil
>...crickets

>In 'murika, garbage "standards" like junk from Verizon way back when, zero-rating DirecTV on ATT, and now T-Mobile has bought into this nonsense
>Rabid T-Mobile shills cheer

And people wonder why cell phone service is so backwards in North America...

 

[GIZBUG]

More stuff T-Mobile customers will think they're getting for free without realizing there is no such thing as "free" and everything offered is added in to the cost of their service.

My $70 a month bill (which includes taxes) for unlimited data is very nice......

 

[OldSchoolMacGuy]

My $70 a month bill (which includes taxes) for unlimited data is very nice......

I pay $60 with AT&T for an old unlimited data plan which is truly unlimited and offers far faster speeds than T-Mobile offers (including 5G in a number of areas, which T-Mobile won't be even exploring for at least 2 years).

But if you're happy then good deal.

 

[Lloydbm41]

I pay $60 with AT&T for an old unlimited data plan which is truly unlimited and offers far faster speeds than T-Mobile offers (including 5G in a number of areas, which T-Mobile won't be even exploring for at least 2 years).

But if you're happy then good deal.

False info. There is no 5G in the US yet, and that is because the standards and regulations haven’t been approved yet. What we do have a test platforms for gigabit LTE when it comes to mobile. This IS NOT 5G though. It’s still just advanced LTE.

What you are likely referring to is mm wave test sites for WiFi/home use. But this is not mobile 5G that you will be using in a year or 2.

 

[OldSchoolMacGuy]

False info. There is no 5G in the US yet, and that is because the standards and regulations haven’t been approved yet. What we do have a test platforms for gigabit LTE when it comes to mobile. This IS NOT 5G though. It’s still just advanced LTE.

What you are likely referring to is mm wave test sites for WiFi/home use. But this is not mobile 5G that you will be using in a year or 2.

Argue all you want, 5G is what the industry giants are calling it and the name that will stick. AT&T is rolling it out in Austin, Indianapolis, and Minnesota by the end of January for the Super Bowl. Speeds up to 14 gigabits-per-second in tests.

 

[Lloydbm41]

Argue all you want, 5G is what the industry giants are calling it and the name that will stick. AT&T is rolling it out in Austin, Indianapolis, and Minnesota by the end of January for the Super Bowl. Speeds up to 14 gigabits-per-second in tests.

Just like ATT said they had 4G, when they didn’t back in 2012? Lol. You also seem to be under the impression that ATT and Verizon will have a mobile 5G network. Do some research.

P.S. No one is rolling out 5G for consumer use yet. The FCC hasn’t approved standards, ergo, no 5G. Verizon is hedging their bet on some home 5G hardware, but it may end up costing them billions of dollars if the standards aren’t met.

Read this: http://www.electronicdesign.com/embedded-revolution/5g-it-s-not-here-yet-closer-you-think

 

[OldSchoolMacGuy]

Just like ATT said they had 4G, when they didn’t back in 2012? Lol. You also seem to be under the impression that ATT and Verizon will have a mobile 5G network. Do some research.

P.S. No one is rolling out 5G for consumer use yet. The FCC hasn’t approved standards, ergo, no 5G. Verizon is hedging their bet on some home 5G hardware, but it may end up costing them billions of dollars if the standards aren’t met.

Read this: http://www.electronicdesign.com/embedded-revolution/5g-it-s-not-here-yet-closer-you-think

Apple adopted 802.11ac before the standard was ratified. Think it's impossible to do so all you like. Doesn't change the fact AT&T and others are testing new higher speeds in a number of areas.

 

[Lloydbm41]

Apple adopted 802.11ac before the standard was ratified. Think it's impossible to do so all you like. Doesn't change the fact AT&T and others are testing new higher speeds in a number of areas.

ATT, T-Mo and Verizon are all testing Gigabit internet. Testing is all that can be done though. Consumer implementation is still going through the red tape. The highest speeds we can realistically see, prior to 5G rollout (on a mobile network) is less than 1Gbps. This requires 3xCA, 4x4 MIMO and 256 QAM on phones like the S8 active and V30.

 

[OldSchoolMacGuy]

ATT, T-Mo and Verizon are all testing Gigabit internet. Testing is all that can be done though. Consumer implementation is still going through the red tape. The highest speeds we can realistically see, prior to 5G rollout (on a mobile network) is less than 1Gbps. This requires 3xCA, 4x4 MIMO and 256 QAM on phones like the S8 active and V30.

This isn't just testing. AT&T will have it available to consumers by the end of January for the Super Bowl in Minneapolis and already has it available in the Austin and Indianapolis areas.

Again, argue with what they're calling it all you like, the fact is that despite not yet being standardized, many are moving forward with the new options that are consumer facing.

 

[Lloydbm41]

This isn't just testing. AT&T will have it available to consumers by the end of January for the Super Bowl in Minneapolis and already has it available in the Austin and Indianapolis areas.

Again, argue with what they're calling it all you like, the fact is that despite not yet being standardized, many are moving forward with the new options that are consumer facing.

What you are discussing is not 5G. That is your problem. Cable video, home wifi and home fiber/mm wave is not mobile 5G. Creating a gigabit hotspot for the superbowl stadium is not 5G. There IS NO 5G approved standards yet. You CAN'T HAVE 5G for consumers without approval from the government. Why is this difficult for you to comprehend?

Hell, I can call mm wave (what Verizon and ATT are doing) 6G... Or 7G. I'm not wrong either then. But it isn't 5G and it isn't design for mobile use either!

I have given you the literature to read and inform yourself. You choose to ignore it. I therefore can not have a rationale debate with you. I am moving on and will ignore you in this thread.

 

[jujufreeze]

This is the kind of game changer I expected when Apple was first rumored to launch some sort of TV-related service. Instead they chose the most cautious and boring route possible with a typical streaming box and failures like planet of the apps and carpool karaoke integrated into apple music.

 

[OldSchoolMacGuy]

What you are discussing is not 5G. That is your problem. Cable video, home wifi and home fiber/mm wave is not mobile 5G. Creating a gigabit hotspot for the superbowl stadium is not 5G. There IS NO 5G approved standards yet. You CAN'T HAVE 5G for consumers without approval from the government. Why is this difficult for you to comprehend?

Hell, I can call mm wave (what Verizon and ATT are doing) 6G... Or 7G. I'm not wrong either then. But it isn't 5G and it isn't design for mobile use either!

I have given you the literature to read and inform yourself. You choose to ignore it. I therefore can not have a rationale debate with you. I am moving on and will ignore you in this thread.

You're missing the point by a mile. Many things were called 4G that weren't in fact 4G but the name stuck because when Verizon or AT&T call something that, the consumers call it that and it sticks. The same thing is happening here. It doesn't matter one tiny bit that this isn't the true definition of 5G. If they call a pile of poop 5G and the consumers pick up on it, then that poop becomes known as 5G and is 5G in the consumers eyes. In this case, they're calling the service they're rolling out 5G. It doesn't matter what you think or that it's not truly 5G. It will become what 5G is known as no matter how much you don't want it to.

 

[jujufreeze]

You're missing the point by a mile. Many things were called 4G that weren't in fact 4G but the name stuck because when Verizon or AT&T call something that, the consumers call it that and it sticks. The same thing is happening here. It doesn't matter one tiny bit that this isn't the true definition of 5G. If they call a pile of poop 5G and the consumers pick up on it, then that poop becomes known as 5G and is 5G in the consumers eyes. In this case, they're calling the service they're rolling out 5G. It doesn't matter what you think or that it's not truly 5G. It will become what 5G is known as no matter how much you don't want it to.

In that case can we call 2k monitors 5k because they looks better than 1080p, or gigabit internet gigabit even though it's only 200mb?

 

[Lloydbm41]

Just like ATT said they had 4G, when they didn’t back in 2012? Lol. You also seem to be under the impression that ATT and Verizon will have a mobile 5G network. Do some research.

P.S. No one is rolling out 5G for consumer use yet. The FCC hasn’t approved standards, ergo, no 5G. Verizon is hedging their bet on some home 5G hardware, but it may end up costing them billions of dollars if the standards aren’t met.

Read this: http://www.electronicdesign.com/embedded-revolution/5g-it-s-not-here-yet-closer-you-think

In that case can we call 2k monitors 5k because they looks better than 1080p, or gigabit internet gigabit even though it's only 200mb?

exactly. OldSchoolMacGuy just can't comprehend though. Not sure why?